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drunkenshoe

#45
November 10, 2016, 12:45:35 PM
Quote from: Baruch on November 10, 2016, 07:32:01 AM
Happened in the 60s ... we are all Marxists now, right?  But yes, I know one young person, my daughter.  If she is an example, she does show that there are changes in the young people, but below the horizon of polling.  They are giving up some of the neurotic hangups of their predecessors ... and that is a good thing.  I have no existential fear for the next generation.  It will be rough, it usually is ... but they are good people ... and they will mature over time.

It was Jefferson's idea, that every election year should be a storming of the Bastille .. but he was wrong.  The point of the US Constitution is stability, not a permanent state of Leftist revolution.  Revolutions are eventually coopted by the Establishment anyway.

They'll do much better than all of you.

Is that concept of becoming 'mature' some sort of a euphemism for dying inside and find delight in cyncially hating your own culture, dear?
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

PickelledEggs

#46
November 10, 2016, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: Munch on November 10, 2016, 04:23:34 AM
If someone did assassinate him, then America is at the mercy of Mike Pence, a person who's trans phobic, anti gay, probably racist, and denies evolution
Yeah. I said that already... It's very scary

Munch

#47
November 10, 2016, 01:43:14 PM
The only thing most progressive americans have to look forward to now, is what trump and his devil on the shoulder vice will NOT do. Thats depressing, when you know what they will try to do, and you only have hope they either won't do it, or get stopped by a higher sent of rules.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

drunkenshoe

#48
November 10, 2016, 02:03:22 PM
Presidents or prime ministers do not make decisions or policies according to the devil on their shoulder. They are bound by the previous policies, agreements made before them and also have to consider many other conditions; circumstances to maintain their reign, to do business; to make politics. They need to preserve the order and use it for the state's and gov's benefit.

Trump will first try to make his voters happy at first sight which does not necessarily translate to real change and then will work to guarantee his second term.

Whatever will happen will happen when he gains real power and recognition. It's about the perception management he can build.

Sitting in that chair is not easy as throwing provocative remarks out of your ass from a stand to a group of people already there to support you.
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

Munch

#49
November 10, 2016, 02:22:49 PM
Ok the devil on the shoulder reference was how thats all I could think to reference to Mike Pence as, a crooked little demon spitting hate and bile as words for trump to listen to.

As for what power he has, any new president can reverse an executive order by the previous president, he can even reverse his/her own executive order down the line. That wouldn't extend to the supreme court ruling, however by planting new supreme members in said presidents favor, it can overturn rules its has made.

QuoteDecisions made by the U.S. Supreme Court can be overturned by either a constitutional amendment or by a future U.S. Supreme Court decision, according to HowStuffWorks. Supreme Court decisions can also be countered or circumvented by new legislation.
https://www.reference.com/government-politics/can-supreme-court-decisions-overturned-e5ed409fe40bd30d

http://money.howstuffworks.com/10-overturned-supreme-court-cases.htm
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

drunkenshoe

#50
November 10, 2016, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: Munch on November 10, 2016, 02:22:49 PM
Ok the devil on the shoulder reference was how thats all I could think to reference to Mike Pence as, a crooked little demon spitting hate and bile as words for trump to listen to.

As for what power he has, any new president can reverse an executive order by the previous president, he can even reverse his/her own executive order down the line. That wouldn't extend to the supreme court ruling, however by planting new supreme members in said presidents favor, it can overturn rules its has made.
https://www.reference.com/government-politics/can-supreme-court-decisions-overturned-e5ed409fe40bd30d

http://money.howstuffworks.com/10-overturned-supreme-court-cases.htm

Yes, I know he can. But are you aware that he kept making U turns about his 'opinions' on LGBTQ? He never said he is against it -wise- but states should decide it. Politics. there is no sicripture or some ready ideology there.

While he is a big threat to LGBTQ, Trump is slimy and fickle. I am sure he'll make the ground for people like Kim Davis, just his exiswtence and the rube win will crank up the hostility against LGBTQ, but reversing equality of marriage would take a lot of salt, that is not that easy. Because he needs to make sure he will not lose the dem votes and ose the image of the all Americans' president. He needs that. He is the one that needs it it most. Do you know any other president that got a raaction like this just in the day he was elected. He k nws this very well. He needs a good marketing.

Democrats who voted for Trump. I don't know if I am wrong, but it looks like a very big amount of democrats voted for Trump. From what I saw earlier millions of them. I am not sure how much of it is correct, I am waiting for it to calm down for a healthier result and outlook about that.

This makes a lot of difference. For the hundreth time this man is not stupid, neither religious. He won't try anything about this unless he is sure he won't lose. And well that is not as easy now. 

"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

Munch

#51
November 10, 2016, 02:45:58 PM
Honestly at this point I'd sooner the devil you know, having a religious zealot in powef means you don't let your guard down, but with trump, he's like C Montgomery Burns, in it for the profit no matter who he crushes to achieve it, yet you just don't know his next move.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

drunkenshoe

#52
November 10, 2016, 05:23:31 PM
Yeah I agree with that you just don't know the move. But we know his motivations and that makes the room less darker.
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

Baruch

#53
November 10, 2016, 05:33:00 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on November 10, 2016, 12:45:35 PM
They'll do much better than all of you.

Is that concept of becoming 'mature' some sort of a euphemism for dying inside and find delight in cyncially hating your own culture, dear?

Tell me how you feel in 20 more years, toots ;-)

Being critical of my own culture ... I thought you liked it when it did that ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

#54
November 11, 2016, 02:36:21 AM
Protests are harmless.  Let people burn up some anger.  They have classes or jobs to go to tomorrow.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

drunkenshoe

#55
November 11, 2016, 02:49:55 AM
Quote from: Baruch on November 10, 2016, 05:33:00 PM
Tell me how you feel in 20 more years, toots ;-)

Being critical of my own culture ... I thought you liked it when it did that ;-)

Baruch, you keep reading my posts wrong. :sad2: I said 'cynical', not 'critical'.

I am not sure if I can survive the next 20 years lol
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

Cavebear

#56
November 11, 2016, 03:04:37 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on November 11, 2016, 02:49:55 AM
Baruch, you keep reading my posts wrong. :sad2: I said 'cynical', not 'critical'.

I am not sure if I can survive the next 20 years lol

Baruch thrives on misreading posts. 
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

#57
November 11, 2016, 08:52:26 AM
Quote from: Cavebear on November 11, 2016, 03:04:37 AM
Baruch thrives on misreading posts.

That is why she thinks I am the product of Deconstructionism ... actually I practice poetic license.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

drunkenshoe

#58
November 11, 2016, 08:57:09 AM
He understand things very well. He is just cynical, exhausted and old with no hope. Also a theist, yuck! :lol: I have a irrational bias in favour of untraditional Jewish people. Occupational hazard. Can't help it. 

Speaking of who... has nayone seen pr126 around? Missed him. :sad2: I hope the old man still alive and healthy.
"his philosophy was a mixture of three famous schools -the cynics, the stoics and the epicureans-and summed up all three of them in his famous phrase, 'you can't trust any bugger further than you can throw him, and there's nothing you can do about it, so let's have a drink.'" terry pratchett

Baruch

#59
November 11, 2016, 09:00:04 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on November 11, 2016, 08:57:09 AM
He understand things very well. He is just cynical, exhausted and old with no hope. Also a theist, yuck! :lol: I have a irrational bias in favour of untraditional Jewish people. Occupational hazard. Can't help it. 

Speaking of who... has nayone seen pr126 around? Missed him. :sad2: I hope the old man still alive and healthy.

Pr126 posted a couple weeks ago.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.
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