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Does math exist?

Started by Plu, June 05, 2013, 02:29:45 PM

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Quote from: Plu on June 05, 2013, 02:29:45 PM
An interesting video on the topic of whether or not math is even a real thing.

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I'd like to hear your opinions. I'm still trying to figure out my own <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->

I just think of math as a language.
6+6=12 is identical to
six plus six equals twelve

Now, just ask yourself. "Does english exist?"
I'd have to say yes since we are using english right now. Would english exist if there were never any people? No, but this doesn't mean that words that describe concepts invalidate the concept if the words don't exist.

For example "2" doesn't exist anywhere. You can always point to two things, or to the symbol "2" but never actually to "2". Twoness is a concept. That concept exists even if there is no language like math or english to give it a label.

You could now probably argue (if you were really argumentative) whether or not concepts exist if there are no brains to conceptualize them. It seems to me that concepts are always available to be conceptualized even in the absence of any brains.




Carl Sagan
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."