Ethicists - Voting Your Heart is Immoral

[Jason Harvestdancer]

When both are thoroughly awful, there is no real question of "which one is better".  Cyanide or Arsenic?  Eaten by a lion versus eaten by a crocodile?  Hitler or Stalin?  Beheading or hanging (without reprieve)?

Would you believe there are people who actually would say there's a lesser evil in "Hitler or Stalin"?

[PickelledEggs]

Yeah. Because being eaten by a predatory animal, is the exact same thing as having two choices you don't like as president.

And no that both aren't anywhere near as bad as Hitler or Stalin.

Time to be a an adult and face reality


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[Baruch]

I am voting third party, so by your standard I'm voting Trump and by Republican standards I'm voting for Hillary.

Both parties would prefer voting like in Iraq under Saddam.  Voting is mandatory, and there is only one name on the ballot ;-)

[Baruch]

FaithIsFlith ....

Here is the latest ... Huma was running everything, earlier, thru her husband's web site ... so that sever is also compromised, and every non-government-allowed admin there who could look at it (unclassified?  natch).  The Men In Black will be busy with their pen-like flash thingy.

http://truepundit.com/fbi-huma-once-shared-a-server-with-dog-groomer/

Podesta was caught earlier leaving a message ... "to delete all those emails".  Unfortunately or not, it isn't that easy when you are running the most incompetent communications function in history.

[PickelledEggs]

much rebelylus
very third party
wow

And on that note, I'm backing out. It's obvious you're beyond changing your mind and sticking to voting for someone that is effective for this country as just sitting at home watching softcore pornography

[Shiranu]

I have to ask; what is more ethical voting for Johnson than Hillary? I am assuming you voted based on your platform to the guy who most closely resembles it. I want to see the workings on that.

Johnson is an incompetent idiot with not the slightest clue on how economics work, and apparently little to zero grasp of foreign affairs. He now identifies as an Independent but was a member of the Republican party and was very heavily involved in their, "We will not approve anything anyone else proposes" tactics. He is heavy proponent of privatized schooling which, as Americans, we should have learned our lesson by now that anything important should NOT be put in the hands of people who only care about money. He did not combat private prisons, one of the greatest ethical crisis's taking place in the United States today. His obstructionist views twice almost lead to the complete government shutdown of New Mexico.

He wants to get rid of student debt by magic. He isn't sure the Department of Education and other Departments actually have any worth. He is just a fucking creep... which shouldn't be an issue per se but we don't live in utopia.

You are saying we are better off with an incompetent obstructionist than someone who gets some good & some bad done but will keep the government working. If we want to continue the "holy homonculi of hyperbole" game started that you played with the Hitler comparisons, then Gary Johnson getting the presidency of one of the most powerful nations in the world is like giving a 15 year old pscyopath a gun, a bag of cocaine, PCP, and enabling god mode and unlimited ammo then putting him in the middle of a city and telling him to have fun.

That is hardly an ethical choice.

[Baruch]

Shiranu ... Hillary can be a genius, but her organization is filled with doofus.  Or that is what Hitler said ... all his generals were incompetent compared to his rank (corporal).  I already addressed my opo on student debt ... nobody will take my advice.

Yes, Johnson fits on average better than Hillary or Trump ... not that I believe anyone's platform.  Kind of like smelling what is cooking in the kitchen before you taste it.  If you want smart, put down Noam Chomsky for your write-in.

So many of your want more of that Libya/Syria competence ... but none of you are volunteering into uniform yet?  Even Obomber tends to hit the target he is aiming at.  The folks I work with are itching to throw away their lives for the Clinton Foundation.

[PickelledEggs]

"I saw Huffington post quote something that Bernie Sanders said about an oligarchy or something and now I know about politics"

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Time to be a an adult and face reality

You want reality?  I live in California.  No matter how I vote, California is going for the Turd Sandwich.  I could vote Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich or third party, it doesn't matter.  The Turd Sandwich is going to win California.  All your false-morality screeds about how I must vote for the right psychopath or the wrong psychopath will get into office fail at that reality.

And suppose I lived in Texas.  The Giant Douche is going to win Texas no matter how I vote.  That's reality contradicting the fantasy land of that pseudo-moral article telling us that we have to grow up and choose between Hitler or Stalin.

Do you live in a swing state?  If that rubbish article actually was moral in the first place, then it would still only apply in those swing states.  Most states are either definitely going for the Giant Douche or the Turd Sandwich.  That's reality.  Try to face the reality instead of drinking the Cool-Ade of "ethicists" who are trying to prop up the worst choice the two party system has given us in many decades.

[PickelledEggs]

Seems like you really thought out a good argument to justify not wanting to think about the two options

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[Jason Harvestdancer]

Nothing I've written there is new.  The effectiveness of voting has been known for a long time.

[Baruch]

Idealists can't be dissuaded from their ideals, even as the do the lemming dance over the cliff.  If my one vote would decide the survival or extinction of the universe ... I would seriously debate myself regarding the sex maniac in chief and his wife.  Been there for 8 years already.  Dick Cheney was never President (snicker) ... so he is technically eligible.  At least he is less of a grifting douche than the Clinton crime family.  One of his daughters is even gay ... so that should bring out the pathetic Left.  One can see right thru this ... the point of defending the two party screw ... is because some people also want that to be followed by a D screw, not an R screw, in spite of all their protestations to the contrary.  Just like sports fans that cheer for the losing home team, decade after decade.

[Baruch]

Nothing I've written there is new.  The effectiveness of voting has been known for a long time.

Most people will not notice your satire.  Voting is very ineffective for the individual, unless you are old Mayor Daley, who owes a favor to old Joe Kennedy.

[PickelledEggs]

Nothing I've written there is new.  The effectiveness of voting has been known for a long time.

I guess I'm just confused by your contradictory logic.

[PickelledEggs]

Most people will not notice your satire.  Voting is very ineffective for the individual, unless you are old Mayor Daley, who owes a favor to old Joe Kennedy.

I noticed the "satire". That is why I said what I said.