People Person?

[Baruch]

Didn't you know - leaders usually hate the people whom they lead?

Familiarity breeds mutual contempt.

[stromboli]

I've made more friends by making intelligent random comments in a social situation and had an intelligent random comment in response. That's how I met my wife. People that approach you likely have an agenda, which is why I blow them off. Most of my friendships have evolved from work or duty situations. My past best friends were Navy buddies or others I worked with professionally. Our friendship was based on trust, knowing they could handle their shit and you could rely on them.

I have exactly one friend now because I don't have a need for friends- I'm a very self contained person. I grew up dealing with my personal issues mostly by myself, so look to myself first for the solution. I know a lot of people who immediately seek out friends for advice or help. I don't do that, because self reliance is essential with me.

I was always pretty much an outcast socially growing up, that certainly didn't help- either  from being poor or not physically attractive. Nothing wrong with being a loner, except the marshmallow brains that need to include you in everything.

[Mike Cl]

I've made more friends by making intelligent random comments in a social situation and had an intelligent random comment in response. That's how I met my wife. People that approach you likely have an agenda, which is why I blow them off. Most of my friendships have evolved from work or duty situations. My past best friends were Navy buddies or others I worked with professionally. Our friendship was based on trust, knowing they could handle their shit and you could rely on them.

I have exactly one friend now because I don't have a need for friends- I'm a very self contained person. I grew up dealing with my personal issues mostly by myself, so look to myself first for the solution. I know a lot of people who immediately seek out friends for advice or help. I don't do that, because self reliance is essential with me.

I was always pretty much an outcast socially growing up, that certainly didn't help- either  from being poor or not physically attractive. Nothing wrong with being a loner, except the marshmallow brains that need to include you in everything.

^This.  Almost to a tee!!

I have one friend (besides my wife) in my life right now.  I had more when I was working, because of the trust and reliability thing.  Now that I'm retired, I am very self contained--and like it that way.  I like to say that I, like Jesus(snark, snark), am a trio--me, myself and I; and we get along very well !  It was not always so--but through the school of hard knocks I have found that I can rely on that group.  The biggest difference I see between us, Strom, is that you are self directed to the outside and crafting with your hands.  That is totally laudable!  I admire that ability.  I am almost totally self directed to inside; I live computer games (solo only!), reading, being with my dogs and the like.  But my wife is a great gardener, so I assist her as the shovel man--she is the engineer of an entire corner lot organic garden; I am manual labor.  But that's cool.  (Well, not now, it is very hot--7 days of 100+; shoveling is now harder!)

[marom1963]

^This.  Almost to a tee!!

I have one friend (besides my wife) in my life right now.  I had more when I was working, because of the trust and reliability thing.  Now that I'm retired, I am very self contained--and like it that way.  I like to say that I, like Jesus(snark, snark), am a trio--me, myself and I; and we get along very well !  It was not always so--but through the school of hard knocks I have found that I can rely on that group.  The biggest difference I see between us, Strom, is that you are self directed to the outside and crafting with your hands.  That is totally laudable!  I admire that ability.  I am almost totally self directed to inside; I live computer games (solo only!), reading, being with my dogs and the like.  But my wife is a great gardener, so I assist her as the shovel man--she is the engineer of an entire corner lot organic garden; I am manual labor.  But that's cool.  (Well, not now, it is very hot--7 days of 100+; shoveling is now harder!)

Where do you live that the temperature is that high in May?

[Shiranu]

I love people, hence the reason both my future careers ( either in anthropology or teaching, though psychology seems cool as well) all directly deal with people.

That said, I'm an extremely emotional and insecure person, so I normally just end up hurting the people I want to get to know.

[marom1963]

I love people, hence the reason both my future careers ( either in anthropology or teaching, though psychology seems cool as well) all directly deal with people.

That said, I'm an extremely emotional and insecure person, so I normally just end up hurting the people I want to get to know.

Skinner was an excellent psychologist - but I'm sure that he hated people.

I'm  a people person. I only daydream about sitting in a machine-gun nest, firing on everyone that goes by. I wouldn't actually do it ... I don't think.

[gentle_dissident]

United we stand. Divided we fall.





Disdain and apathy give us no right to complain. That's how it got this way.

[Baruch]

I love people, hence the reason both my future careers ( either in anthropology or teaching, though psychology seems cool as well) all directly deal with people.

That said, I'm an extremely emotional and insecure person, so I normally just end up hurting the people I want to get to know.

You have a lot of potential to do that ... because you can't understand hurt people (the majority) unless you have been hurt.  I hope you find your catharsis that will allow you to use your problems to help others with similar problems.  That is what shamen do.

[gentle_dissident]

I hope you find your catharsis that will allow you to use your problems to help others with similar problems.  That is what shamen do.

[Mike Cl]

Where do you live that the temperature is that high in May?

In the middle of the fucking dessert!!!  Will be, if we don't start getting some rain. I live in the middle of the San Joaquin Valley--the very valley that produces the produce you likely get  in your market.  I mean, we grown almonds, any melon you can think of, cotton, walnuts, figs, citrus, lettuce, tomatoes, apricots, peaches, grapes (raisins)--and the list goes on!  Yeah--7 fucking days of 100--with Fri and Sat getting fucking 108!!!!!  What am I doing still living here!!!

[gentle_dissident]

What am I doing still living here!!!

My condolences.

[Mike Cl]

My condolences.

Thanks! :)))  It is one bigggggggg frappin' valley.  It stretches from Redding in the north, to Bakersfield (Lil' Nashville) in the south; it would take 7 hrs of freeway driving to go one to the other.  That's a valley!  And it produces more than most countries; I am spoiled by it--if an apple has one blemish, or a tomato has one flaw in it's skin--back it goes and I get another.  But it has been getting hotter lately.  We were going to move to near Eugene, OR (GOD's country!!)--but Dubya happened and the house prices when to shit.  So, here we stay.  But I do love the house I'm in and the critters I share it with--my wife and dogs--I'm not bitching all that much. :))

[Baruch]

Was sad to see, because of the drought, the orchard folks were pulling up all of the almond trees.  Half a lifetime ago, I saw old abandoned olive trees north of Sacramento ... just going to seed.  Sad.

[drunkenshoe]

I used to think I was, but not so much anymore.  But it's OK.

I'd say you are.