Extraterrestrial life questions and chat thread

Started by Sting Chameleon, May 10, 2016, 12:59:34 PM

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Sting Chameleon

I put this thread here because at least one of my questions involves religion in this thread.




#1: If alien life is advanced enough can they make a universe where no life in it ever dies?



#2: If aliens are real could they have written The Holy Bible?




#3: If alien life is advanced enough can they revive the dead?




#4: If alien life is real can they safely make someone live much longer?
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widdershins

You are asking for pure speculation.  There are no answers to the questions you are asking which aren't just pulled straight out of someone's ass.
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TomFoolery

Quote from: Sting Chameleon on May 10, 2016, 12:59:34 PM
#1: If alien life is advanced enough can they make a universe where no life in it ever dies?
No, the universe is the universe and it's where everything else exists.

Quote from: Sting Chameleon on May 10, 2016, 12:59:34 PM#2: If aliens are real could they have written The Holy Bible?
This relies on both the notion that 1.) Aliens are real 2.) Aliens are intelligent 3.) Aliens can communicate with us by means we understand and 4.) They're giant fucking punks

Quote from: Sting Chameleon on May 10, 2016, 12:59:34 PM#3: If alien life is advanced enough can they revive the dead?
Depends on how you define it. We can revive the dead. Ever watched someone flatline in an ER? 

Quote from: Sting Chameleon on May 10, 2016, 12:59:34 PM#4: If alien life is real can they safely make someone live much longer?
Again, depends on how you look at it. We've done that too. Humans used to be old by 45.
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

Baruch

No, to all four questions, sorry.  Wisdom tells us to to mess with that shit.  We are hardly competent (us or aliens) to get a matching pair of socks on our feet.  My current pair don't actually match ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

AllPurposeAtheist

Quote from: Baruch on May 10, 2016, 06:59:27 PM
No, to all four questions, sorry.  Wisdom tells us to to mess with that shit.  We are hardly competent (us or aliens) to get a matching pair of socks on our feet.  My current pair don't actually match ;-)
That's why all of my socks are the same brand and style.  I'm hip to the collusion between sock manufacturers and washing machine manufacturers to steal socks and syphon them off to Chinese sock sweat shops..
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Mike Cl

Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on May 10, 2016, 07:06:15 PM
That's why all of my socks are the same brand and style.  I'm hip to the collusion between sock manufacturers and washing machine manufacturers to steal socks and syphon them off to Chinese sock sweat shops..
You are wrong APA--it is gremlins who take them--I have  proof--it's a FACT!  There I proved it.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Hydra009

I clicked on this hoping for better questions.  Speculation about intelligent alien life not being carbon-based, living on a planet orbiting a white dwarf, have different social organization (like eusociality), have a different conceptual framework, have a different values, the perennial hostile/friendly/indifferent debate, why haven't we made contact yet, etc.  Those are interesting questions to me.  The bible and religious questions, not so much.

stromboli

Funny thing about socks. I learned in the Navy if you wash your socks aboard ship you always get them all back.
Also, a friend of mine runs a cleaner/dry cleaner and has never lost a sock. Turns out they only teleport a short distance and you can find them if you look.

as far as answering the questions, go to your local Walmart and wait. Ask the first brown person you see. Chances are one of his relatives is an alien. Name of Juan or Ahmed. Get the straight dope from the source.

Carry on.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Hydra009 on May 11, 2016, 04:44:57 AM
I clicked on this hoping for better questions.  Speculation about intelligent alien life not being carbon-based, living on a planet orbiting a white dwarf, have different social organization (like eusociality), have a different conceptual framework, have a different values, the perennial hostile/friendly/indifferent debate, why haven't we made contact yet, etc.  Those are interesting questions to me.  The bible and religious questions, not so much.
I've often thought of the question of alien life and what it would be like.  I do think we will find life within this solar system.  Places like Europa that has, apparently, a large amount of water could easily support life.  Our planet supports life in just about every niche there is.  When I was in grade school, I was taught that all life was based upon the energy of the sun.  That's not so any more. 

The universe is so huge I think it has to have life.  But the distances are so huge that it may be that we never see it.  At least within a few thousand more years.  But maybe not.  If it were intelligent enough to be able to have the technology to come here, I would think it would have enough technology to have studied us in great detail.  They may not want to make contact.  Why would they want to?  What would they look like?  What would their values be?  I would think their environment would be a huge factor in determining that.  So, without knowing what that is, how could we even guess?  But guessing about this subject is fun.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Sting Chameleon on May 10, 2016, 12:59:34 PM
I put this thread here because at least one of my questions involves religion in this thread.

#1: If alien life is advanced enough can they make a universe where no life in it ever dies?

#2: If aliens are real could they have written The Holy Bible?

#3: If alien life is advanced enough can they revive the dead?

#4: If alien life is real can they safely make someone live much longer?
Discount "Jesus was an alien" thread.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

stromboli

We make the assumption for some reason aliens would want to come here. This place is like Haiti after the earthquake. It is too remote for an easy visit, all the resources are used up and everybody thinks religion can fix shit. I for one would avoid.

Baruch

Quote from: Hydra009 on May 11, 2016, 04:44:57 AM
I clicked on this hoping for better questions.  Speculation about intelligent alien life not being carbon-based, living on a planet orbiting a white dwarf, have different social organization (like eusociality), have a different conceptual framework, have a different values, the perennial hostile/friendly/indifferent debate, why haven't we made contact yet, etc.  Those are interesting questions to me.  The bible and religious questions, not so much.

What is holding you back?  Why are you waiting for us?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Feral Atheist

Quote from: Sting Chameleon on May 10, 2016, 12:59:34 PM#1: If alien life is advanced enough can they make a universe where no life in it ever dies?
No, even the universe will die or run out of energy
Quote from: Sting Chameleon on May 10, 2016, 12:59:34 PM#2: If aliens are real could they have written The Holy Bible?
No. If they are intelligent and advanced enough that they have obtained FLT (faster than light travel), they have advanced beyond the ignorance of dieties and all the trappings of the nonsense in the bible or any other so called holy book
Quote from: Sting Chameleon on May 10, 2016, 12:59:34 PM#3: If alien life is advanced enough can they revive the dead?
No. Life as we think of it is our consciousness that exists only in the functioning organ that we call the brain.  Once that has ceased the data is lost.
Quote from: Sting Chameleon on May 10, 2016, 12:59:34 PM#4: If alien life is real can they safely make someone live much longer?
Plausable.  We have also done this through the elimination of disease, and the treatment of others.  But the real key is to somehow cause cell regeneration to continue at the rate it did in our youth.
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Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: stromboli on May 11, 2016, 10:57:30 AM
We make the assumption for some reason aliens would want to come here. This place is like Haiti after the earthquake. It is too remote for an easy visit, all the resources are used up and everybody thinks religion can fix shit. I for one would avoid.
Good point, well made. I often ask "what do we have that would interest a space-faring race?" The most common answer is "Because we're here!" That begs the question "Is 'being here' special?"
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Gawdzilla Sama

With regard to listening for radio signals: Can you read smoke signals? That "technology" died out less than 200 years ago. What will we be using for signaling in 200 years?
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers