Athiest are the dumbest people. No Offence its just true.

[Knowing]

No,no that's the 'free will' the flock always talks about. Either you buy into this crap or be incinerated not for a year, not for 20 years, not for a 100 years..but for ETERNITY!!! No such thing in the OT, only loving Jesus came up with a "just" punishment. But he loves us anyways, lol! The stupidity of it all is frightening.
That reminds me of a criminal standing in court accused of robbing an old man at gunpoint and shooting him because the old geezer refused to hand over his wallet. The defense argued that the robber gave the victim a choice, free will, either to hand over his money or get shot. A perfectly plausible defense...in the fantasy world of the pious!

I only read a couple sentences of what you had to say.

But from that I can tell this is something a lot of you need to hear.
When we are talking about  the creator of all! Do you people truly think that your going to sit in front of God and speak your mind of how he's.doing us.wrong lol  I put it like this there are a lot of men on this earth that can make you drop your pants when they say to and make you clip there toenails and dress you up like a woman and make you dance for them. And you can be a very straight man and be made do these things, it happens in prison every day.
So if a man can do this to you and you be in so much fear of him that you would never think of questioning what he.says but you know the consequence.
How much more terrifying is the one who controls your eternal destination! The one who can put you in Hell for a eternity of torture! And you think your going to cop off at the mouth to God lmao who is deluded in there thinking here?

[Knowing]

So is god incapable of creating a creation in which he knows all his creations will choose to live by his code and come to accept him of their free will?

Free will does nothing about this problem if your creator is allpowerfull and allknowing.

Grasshopper this again goes with another one I just made a statement on read it. It has to do with you becoming a prison sissy. Lol
In other words how nuts are u ppl to question someone with the power to control your eternal destination!
You wouldn't walk up to Kim Jung un with a attitude bcuz he'd feed you to the dog's.
Yet it is so much more of a mistake to think your going to tell God about himself. My point is even if God was a maniac which he's not he's pure holy, but if he was who would ever be dumb enough to question someone with that kind of power.

[Baruch]

Grasshopper this again goes with another one I just made a statement on read it. It has to do with you becoming a prison sissy. Lol
In other words how nuts are u ppl to question someone with the power to control your eternal destination!
You wouldn't walk up to Kim Jung un with a attitude bcuz he'd feed you to the dog's.
Yet it is so much more of a mistake to think your going to tell God about himself. My point is even if God was a maniac which he's not he's pure holy, but if he was who would ever be dumb enough to question someone with that kind of power.

Speak truth to power ... but use someone else's voice to deliver it ;-)

[Knowing]

In my personal experience being harassed by Mennonite Brethren and other bible thumpers.  Most are so low IQ, they have no idea how a smart person thinks.  Their idea of intelligence:  lie and cheat to fool normal people.  WOW, what an accomplishment.

Iq is basic problem solving. I'm not even going to tell you mine because you won't believe me for 1 and another it's pointless the knowledge I'm speaking of is such higher caliber than iq.

[Knowing]

WOW!  Rape on friday, magic jesus words on sunday, then it's all OK?  Is that how it works?

So you.don't understand freewill. You.don't understand guilt. You don't understand repentance the earthly kind nor the  Godly sorrow kind. You don't understand the desires of the heart nor the want and need to cleanse the evil desires and not only cleanse but also to de root the desire. So you may never be a repeat offender.

[Knowing]

Right after Adolf Hitler. Anne Frank, on the other hand, couldn't get in.

Good people in the eyes of the world are going to.hell at the rate of me texting per letter!
God knows your heart and if you choose not to believe pre pare for the punishment.

[Knowing]

Yes. If you think of him as The unlimited entity many do.
Especially if you believe The punishment for being created The way he chose to create you means hell.
And even if you think non christians won't be punished if they are good people, it still remains a strange choice to create The world in this way and not a better, christian one. It would have literaly taken him no more effort, not taken away free will and have caused less grief and have had him accomplish more of his alledged goal of forming a personal relationship with everyone.

Here again talking about a strange choice to someone with that much power is foolish.

[Knowing]

Didn't see anything in Anne Frank's diary implying a desire to be baptized ... Read it ages ago, maybe I'm forgetting. She was Jewish, wasn't she?

I'm glad you can judge a person's hearts.desires from what they wrote in a diary.

[Knowing]

I don't know your financial situation but you are not an intellectual ;-)  A picture is worth a thousand words, or do you dismiss China?

But it's the true reflection of that picture that.is talking..
In these posters these men reply with they want me to.read the little words within.
When all I saw was a small bald atheist man crying on a woman shoulder bc he do sent know God nor any truth.
I can see how that can drive one crazy.

[reasonist]

"How much more terrifying is the one who controls your eternal destination! The one who can put you in Hell for a eternity of torture! And you think your going to cop off at the mouth to God lmao who is deluded in there thinking here?"

Yes, yes, yes! Terrifying!! But he loves us sooo much!!! Hi again Randy Carson. Have some of the cool aid.

The perfect definition of sado-masochism: to love the one we are terrified of.
So much love, so much terror, lol

[reasonist]

But it's the true reflection of that picture that.is talking..
In these posters these men reply with they want me to.read the little words within.
When all I saw was a small bald atheist man crying on a woman shoulder bc he do sent know God nor any truth.
I can see how that can drive one crazy.

Now try that in english...

[Knowing]

That was borrowed from Plato quoting Socrates.  Socrates' theory of education.  We all desire to know the truth and goodness, and once we know it, we don't let go of it.  Are Socrates and Plato saints?  Early Church Fathers thought so (some of them).  Which is to say, good epistemology produces good ethics.

I have never read what you quoted from Plato about once you know the truth you don't want to let it go. It's.very true and that's how I feel. I feel so blessed to know and I said to KNOW these truths about life and I hold them very close to my heart and since God started blessing me with little nuggets I hunger for more and more.

[Knowing]

I don't know how I missed your post about the turd and the toilet backing up - that was terrific ... Somehow, I would want God to watch that, from underneath, you know ...

You know.hell is going to.hurt literally worse than any pain none to man on earth. Your body has no fluids but you still experience full pain you will call for.death every second. Hopelessness runs deep within your soul. You will wish for only a single.drop of water.on the tongue. The smell will torture you in its self.

[Knowing]

So, because we don't believe in god, he is making us not believe in god.
Brilliant.

Because at one time or.another you.denied what.You knew was true now your under.a.strong delusion.

[Mr.Obvious]

You have raised a really good point...one that has been debated for a long time. Rather than try to give you a brief response of my own, I'd like to offer a link to an article which is not too long but addresses your concern reasonably well.

ISN’T IT PERVERSE TO CREATE A PERSON, KNOWING HE WILL BE DAMNED?
http://rcspirituality.org/ask-a-priest-isnt-it-perverse-to-create-a-person-knowing-he-will-be-damned/

After reading the article, all I can say is that, with all due respect, it doesn't think about the question in it's entirety.
God could have created a world in which all souls would have reasoned to choose to live by his will, without this breaking their free will. God choosing in advance to create this particular reality above anyother  he would've known have not led to damned souls with his omniscience and he could've made with his omnipotence, means he willfully chose for others to freely choose poorly rather than freely choose wisely. If you keep that in mind, you'll find why I find just about everything in the article lacking.
And you'll see that where the author starts talking about predestination, he's just dead wrong. God presumably did decide ahead of time. He has an infinite amount of realities he can create. And he chooses one out of all of these, knowing in advance what it'll entail. You can say we have free will in this one, and if you call our actions free will I'm not even going to argue because that's not the point as long as you realize in any other creation he could've created we could've been created with the same amount of free will but have chosen differently.
If God knows out of all of infinite posibilities what his choice will lead to, by choosing which he thinks is best: he does cause it and decide it. He is the prime mover, after all, and an all-knowing one at that.

And the analogies falls short for the same reason yours with the teacher did; because they concider limited people, not an unlimited god. It is that limitless omniscience, omnipotence and being the creator of all things that forms the very problem. Of course it won't translate if you take those properties away. (Also, to make it somewhat relevant, you should have it be that you know in advance that if you give your neighbour the bottle he's going to throw it out of the window or that if you know in advance your son is going to be completely unhappy for his entire life or in constant pain his entire life or even be a horrible person his entire life.  That's the things you can't know in advance, but that's because you're human.) So this does not add anything you hadn't argued before.

In my honest opinion, Randy, the article doesn't do anything to further your point beyond what you've already said. And, in my view, it does something I've seen many christians do when I put this conundrum to them. It  rapidly and perhaps even subconsciously flips between dropping one of three traits: omnipotence, omniscience and omnibenevolence (this last one trait appears in the article through the quote: “Indeed, he “wills everyone to be saved and to come to knowledge of the truth” (1 Timothy 2:4)”), whilst declaring all three can be in perfect harmony. However if you factor in reality, unless I'm missing something essential here, it looks like at least one of them's got to go.