Athiest are the dumbest people. No Offence its just true.

[Randy Carson]

I think Randy considers making up shit to not be lying. Convenience of a cafeteria Christian's attitude toward the Big Ten.

Can you give an example or two of when I have made something up and then lied about it?

Thanks.

[PopeyesPappy]

Do atheists indoctrinate their children with the idea that God does not exist? Or do they simply maintain neutrality and let the kid figure it out on his or her own? (Be honest.)

And Surprise! Surprise! The kids who grow up in a home in which the name of God is never mentioned have no reason to believe in a God they have never heard of.

Until...surprise! surprise! An apologist or an evangelist presents them with the data which they can then evaluate for themselves.

And not all, but some of these cradle atheists DO find the evidence compelling.

And no surprise. Most theists believe in the religion of their parents.

Sorry. You wanted separation of Church and state, and you got it. So, we can't teach those classes, any more.

Wrong. The same 1963 SCOTUS ruling that removed state sponsored religious ceremonies from public schools stated that schools have always been allowed to teach about religion.

It probably wouldn't hurt if atheists stopped mocking us in the public square, either.

So basically you're saying it's OK to kill someone because they don't believe in your god?

[Sargon The Grape]

The red herring fallacy known as the argumentum ad populum.

However, I am not attempting to prove Christianity or theism by appealing to the large numbers of people who accept them.

Instead, I am making an appeal to the common sense idea that when a crowd gathers, it is reasonable to conclude that there is something to see going on.

Atheism is the third largest of those crowds, and climbing. By your own logic: where the crowd gathers... ;)

[Blackleaf]

Do atheists indoctrinate their children with the idea that God does not exist? Or do they simply maintain neutrality and let the kid figure it out on his or her own? (Be honest.)

And Surprise! Surprise! The kids who grow up in a home in which the name of God is never mentioned have no reason to believe in a God they have never heard of.

Until...surprise! surprise! An apologist or an evangelist presents them with the data which they can then evaluate for themselves.

And not all, but some of these cradle atheists DO find the evidence compelling.

Sorry. You wanted separation of Church and state, and you got it. So, we can't teach those classes, any more.

It probably wouldn't hurt if atheists stopped mocking us in the public square, either.

Atheists do not indoctrinate their children. They do not take them to atheist meetings, where they are taught from a young age with songs and skits to think the same way. They are not schooled from home so that they won't be exposed to theists who would compromise their lack of faith. They do not give their children atheist books to read. Before eating, they do not remind them that there is no god to pray to for blessings. Those are all things YOU do so that your children will grow up unable to question their beliefs, so that they will blindly accept with childlike faith in something that an adult with full mental capacities would most often reject.

Here's a video. I know you don't actually watch the videos I put here for you, but do watch this one. It shows perfectly why Christians must indoctrinate their children:

[TomFoolery]

Meanwhile, atheism, as a percentage of the population, is falling.

Might that not have something to do with better education and lower birth rates among atheists? Both of those things stem from the empowerment of women, which by and large isn't widely championed in any of the major religions. And while I don't know the exact statistics for strict atheists, secularism as a whole is rising in developed countries.

And the atheist parents I know from my local groups have two schools of thought on raising kids, and none of them includes screaming at their children that Christians are the devil. Many do maintain complete neutrality and simply don't bring it up, but
I know two who actually go out of their way to expose their children to a wide range of belief systems, which I think is better. When you show kids that Christian beliefs are but a drop in the bucket compared to the vast amount of ideas about the universe, Christian beliefs are a lot less compelling, and certainly not even nearly as interesting as Norse myths or Hinduism.

[PopeyesPappy]

Might that not have something to do with better education and lower birth rates among atheists?

It pretty much has everything to do with lower birth rates among atheists. On average theists breed like rats.

[Randy Carson]

And no surprise. Most theists believe in the religion of their parents.

Yep. But not all. It is possible for someone to make the change.

Wrong. The same 1963 SCOTUS ruling that removed state sponsored religious ceremonies from public schools stated that schools have always been allowed to teach about religion.

I know. That was hyperbole on my part.

So basically you're saying it's OK to kill someone because they don't believe in your god?

Of course. Who doesn't believe this?

[Randy Carson]

It pretty much has everything to do with lower birth rates among atheists.

Correct!

I mean, if you follow atheism to its logical conclusion (nihilism), why bother bringing anyone else into this wretched world only to suffer and die?

Besides, you can buy more toys for yourself if you don't have to pay for kids.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The red herring fallacy known as the argumentum ad populum.

However, I am not attempting to prove Christianity or theism by appealing to the large numbers of people who accept them.

Like fuck you ain't. 

Instead, I am making an appeal to the common sense idea that when a crowd gathers, it is reasonable to conclude that there is something to see going on.

Again you have a fallacy. You presume that there is something to see.

[Randy Carson]

Like fuck you ain't. 

Uh...no. Check the OP's of my threads for the kernels of my arguments.

Again you have a fallacy. You presume that there is something to see.

And you presume there isn't.

So, what are all those people looking at if there is nothing there?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Uh...no. Check the OP's of my threads for the kernels of my arguments.

But you're skipping Question Zero.

And you presume there isn't.

So, what are all those people looking at if there is nothing there?

A shared delusion is a possibility. It's a certainty when we're talking about the Virgin Mary appearing in the sky.

[Baruch]

Agreed. But people aren't as stupid as some claim.

If theism was false, it wouldn't have so many adherents.

All human endeavor is mortal/imperfect ... and thus false.  But not entirely without merit.  Our struggle against mortality and imperfection, at least provides the gods with Sisyphusian entertainment.

[Johan]

Instead, I am making an appeal to the common sense idea that when a crowd gathers, it is reasonable to conclude that there is something to see going on.

The fact that something has a large number of followers in no way serves as evidence that what those followers believe is true. If you want to prove this for yourself go talk to a professional wrestling fan and listen to all the ways they will swear up and down that pro wrestling isn't fake or scripted.

[Mermaid]

You're a big stupid dumbhead. No offense, it's just true!

[Johan]

I know I am, but what are you?