Athiest are the dumbest people. No Offence its just true.

[Knowing]

Here is msa dash. Apologies to munch for its Herero nature but I could easily drum up some good gay for you if you have the desire. I out this here because it has more relevance and pleasure giving than any thoughts that knowing or "the creator" has. Please enjoy responsibily

Enjoy your next birth (death) you find your worldly desires wasn't worth it same for me to.

[Knowing]

Oh don't worry Grin, if gods real, he made whoever drew the picture draw it, same as me made the dancing bears dance.

Oh he's real brother. And me nor you would like the outcome if we was to die today. HELL.
I want everyone to know and understand more likely than not if I was to die tonight I would be going to Hell just like all of you. So understand if people say I have hatred on me or I'm mean and cold hearted. That maybe true I'm not born again Christian as I said on the first page.
I'm just showing you people how stupid your way of thinking is.
Even though I'm not saved I still have a relationship with God.
And so can any of.you.
And once you get that relationship you start feeling guilt of your sins some more than others.
And that's a good thing so maybe one day before we die we can be fully ready knowing completely were going to heaven.
And what's weird is I do love you all. And I just learned that yesterday.

[Knowing]

I want to hear one person's argument with there not being a God.
I want to hear someone's Damn idea that is original and organic to themselves.
A idea about anything that is organic to you show me y'all have a Damn brain left.
Humans turned robots... just repeat what your told programmed.
It's ridiculous and sad.
A whole generation of blank brains.
No spiritual part of you any longer.
You think your flesh go deeper in yourselves and see.
I mean Damn I honestly have crushed every point y'all have come.up with.
So any1 reading this should see.who's.more in touch with truth about life me.
If I wasent y'all would be breaking me down.
This is the.difference between someone that does at least pray to the right God. And has a mind that is untouched by society. I questioned everything. I mean just like point I brought up about spelling. How no1 actually knows how to spell any word truly correct. You see how I'm digging under the.surface of every little thing you should try it.

[Sargon The Grape]

I want to hear one person's argument with there not being a God.

Alright, here's an argument I've been using for years that I came up with myself.

After some analysis comparing the various gods of mythology to omnipotent characters in fiction, you will find there are no differences between the two.

I know that gods don't exist. It's surprisingly simple to sum up: Any being claiming to fit the human concept of a god can offer no proof that cannot equally be offered by this guy:

An advanced alien, like Q here, would be able to claim it is a god,
even your god, and offer any proof you demanded of him.
You would never be able to prove that he is anything other than what he claims.

It sounds like overly simplistic logic, but this is only because the nature of mythological gods itself speaks to how simplistic human imagination tends to be. Even the broadest interpretation of a god separate from the universe, that of deism, only exists to say, "The universe exists, therefore no matter how complex it is God surely must be able to make it," which is really just expanding an already made-up term to encompass new discoveries, rather than just admit that the concept was flawed to begin with.

Then you have the pantheistic and panentheistic definitions, respectively stating that god is the universe and the universe is within god; both of which pretty much mean the same thing after any deep analysis, and both of which beg the question, "If God and the universe are indistinguishable, then why separate the terms at all?" Like deism, the answer is obvious: it's expanding an older term to fit new discoveries, rather than admitting that the concept was flawed from the get-go.

The human concept of a god gets even more ridiculous once you introduce the concept of higher dimensions. Rob Bryanton's Imagining the Tenth Dimension, while by no means describing a currently accepted scientific theory, nevertheless illustrates just how ridiculously huge our universe is should any concept of higher dimensions prove to be accurate (especially given the size of the observable universe we are already well aware of). As the universe gets bigger and bigger, any concept of gods must expand accordingly, to ludicrous levels as this concept should demonstrate.

Even if the observable universe is all there is, if it is really designed then it seems to act like what we would expect of a simulator; and any being capable of designing it should more accurately be referred to as a programmer than a god. "Why can't we just call the programmer God?" you ask. For the same reason we wouldn't call it a leprechaun: fictional though it may be, it already exists as a concept and, for the sake of not invoking confusion and/or emotional validation for irrational beliefs, the term should not be continually expanded to include any and every version of the universe's hypothetical creator. If it is more like a programmer than a god, then that is what we should call it, and how we should regard it. Given all of this, I cannot think of any explanation abiding by Occam's Razor that would lead me to believe that a being conforming to the mythical concept of a god exists.

tl;dr version: There is no way anything we would regard as a god could ever prove that it is what it claims to a skeptical individual. Because the universe less resembles a mythical god's realm than it does a simulator, any designer we did find should be called a programmer, not a god. Therefore, we can reasonably conclude that there is no god.

[marom1963]

Oh he's real brother. And me nor you would like the outcome if we was to die today. HELL.
I want everyone to know and understand more likely than not if I was to die tonight I would be going to Hell just like all of you. So understand if people say I have hatred on me or I'm mean and cold hearted. That maybe true I'm not born again Christian as I said on the first page.
I'm just showing you people how stupid your way of thinking is.
Even though I'm not saved I still have a relationship with God.
And so can any of.you.
And once you get that relationship you start feeling guilt of your sins some more than others.
And that's a good thing so maybe one day before we die we can be fully ready knowing completely were going to heaven.
And what's weird is I do love you all. And I just learned that yesterday.

Wow! They must have come up w/some special radioactive evangelical ooze just to slop into a jug to make you, man. What inbred hillbilly nowhere did you roll down from? Why aren't you on a corner in Sodom - oh, I mean, Manhattan - preaching the End of Time, w/the rest of your kind? Why come here? You had to know that we were just going to make fun of you. Nobody here is going to buy your garbage! You're welcome to stay as comic relief - but that's all you are.

[Randy Carson]

After reading the article, all I can say is that, with all due respect, it doesn't think about the question in it's entirety.
God could have created a world in which all souls would have reasoned to choose to live by his will, without this breaking their free will. God choosing in advance to create this particular reality above anyother  he would've known have not led to damned souls with his omniscience and he could've made with his omnipotence, means he willfully chose for others to freely choose poorly rather than freely choose wisely. If you keep that in mind, you'll find why I find just about everything in the article lacking.
And you'll see that where the author starts talking about predestination, he's just dead wrong. God presumably did decide ahead of time. He has an infinite amount of realities he can create. And he chooses one out of all of these, knowing in advance what it'll entail. You can say we have free will in this one, and if you call our actions free will I'm not even going to argue because that's not the point as long as you realize in any other creation he could've created we could've been created with the same amount of free will but have chosen differently.
If God knows out of all of infinite posibilities what his choice will lead to, by choosing which he thinks is best: he does cause it and decide it. He is the prime mover, after all, and an all-knowing one at that.

And the analogies falls short for the same reason yours with the teacher did; because they concider limited people, not an unlimited god. It is that limitless omniscience, omnipotence and being the creator of all things that forms the very problem. Of course it won't translate if you take those properties away. (Also, to make it somewhat relevant, you should have it be that you know in advance that if you give your neighbour the bottle he's going to throw it out of the window or that if you know in advance your son is going to be completely unhappy for his entire life or in constant pain his entire life or even be a horrible person his entire life.  That's the things you can't know in advance, but that's because you're human.) So this does not add anything you hadn't argued before.

In my honest opinion, Randy, the article doesn't do anything to further your point beyond what you've already said. And, in my view, it does something I've seen many christians do when I put this conundrum to them. It  rapidly and perhaps even subconsciously flips between dropping one of three traits: omnipotence, omniscience and omnibenevolence (this last one trait appears in the article through the quote: “Indeed, he “wills everyone to be saved and to come to knowledge of the truth” (1 Timothy 2:4)”), whilst declaring all three can be in perfect harmony. However if you factor in reality, unless I'm missing something essential here, it looks like at least one of them's got to go.

I'm sorry you found it unsatisfying. Tell you what: State the problem or question briefly and clearly so that there is no uncertainty about the point you are trying to make, and I will pursue a more solid answer.

Fair enough?

[Knowing]

Alright, here's an argument I've been using for years that I came up with myself.

After some analysis comparing the various gods of mythology to omnipotent characters in fiction, you will find there are no differences between the two.

I know that gods don't exist. It's surprisingly simple to sum up: Any being claiming to fit the human concept of a god can offer no proof that cannot equally be offered by this guy:

An advanced alien, like Q here, would be able to claim it is a god,
even your god, and offer any proof you demanded of him.
You would never be able to prove that he is anything other than what he claims.

It sounds like overly simplistic logic, but this is only because the nature of mythological gods itself speaks to how simplistic human imagination tends to be. Even the broadest interpretation of a god separate from the universe, that of deism, only exists to say, "The universe exists, therefore no matter how complex it is God surely must be able to make it," which is really just expanding an already made-up term to encompass new discoveries, rather than just admit that the concept was flawed to begin with.

Then you have the pantheistic and panentheistic definitions, respectively stating that god is the universe and the universe is within god; both of which pretty much mean the same thing after any deep analysis, and both of which beg the question, "If God and the universe are indistinguishable, then why separate the terms at all?" Like deism, the answer is obvious: it's expanding an older term to fit new discoveries, rather than admitting that the concept was flawed from the get-go.

The human concept of a god gets even more ridiculous once you introduce the concept of higher dimensions. Rob Bryanton's Imagining the Tenth Dimension, while by no means describing a currently accepted scientific theory, nevertheless illustrates just how ridiculously huge our universe is should any concept of higher dimensions prove to be accurate (especially given the size of the observable universe we are already well aware of). As the universe gets bigger and bigger, any concept of gods must expand accordingly, to ludicrous levels as this concept should demonstrate.

Even if the observable universe is all there is, if it is really designed then it seems to act like what we would expect of a simulator; and any being capable of designing it should more accurately be referred to as a programmer than a god. "Why can't we just call the programmer God?" you ask. For the same reason we wouldn't call it a leprechaun: fictional though it may be, it already exists as a concept and, for the sake of not invoking confusion and/or emotional validation for irrational beliefs, the term should not be continually expanded to include any and every version of the universe's hypothetical creator. If it is more like a programmer than a god, then that is what we should call it, and how we should regard it. Given all of this, I cannot think of any explanation abiding by Occam's Razor that would lead me to believe that a being conforming to the mythical concept of a god exists.

tl;dr version: There is no way anything we would regard as a god could ever prove that it is what it claims to a skeptical individual. Because the universe less resembles a mythical god's realm than it does a simulator, any designer we did find should be called a programmer, not a god. Therefore, we can reasonably conclude that there is no god.

Ok at least I can say you have done some thinking on your own that's a relief I'm sure you know how good that is in its self.
But that is no.argument for God not existing even if your calling him a programmer your still admitting there is a creator. Just as a chair will never gain a mind. Only mind can create matter.
You know I've seen entities that were for sure evil seen in the physical world. I've been put in awe with many different things I've seen with witnesses.
I've had a true experience with God as well with witnesses.
You know what makes us alive? You think it's out body parts? If that was true then we could take any dead body and fill.it with good working organs and needed parts and start the heart back up. But you can't bc it's our soul that is our life it's what starts our engine.
You can tell when the life has left a plant.
We live in a crazy realm right now. We're just pieces on a game board.
You know there is no way of denying the existence of God.
Everything is in a perfect cycle. I feel the earth it's self is like a giant timer set for its own end just as we are.
Once you develop a true realtionship with.God there's no more doubts.
Why do you think even the animals know that there's something special about us.
It's like there seeing a ghost every time we cross a wild animals path.
Bc we're very.similar to that of a ghost both spiritual entities.
Do you believe man named himself man?
Many things on earth were past down from the other dimension as we call it.
Who invented the mirror, armor and weapons? Who really showed us how to blacksmith?
Who showed women how to beautify there eye brows etc.
These are bad gifts past down from fallen.angels I believe.
Along with sorcery and witchcraft as well. And if you don't believe in a spiritual side start praying to God to reveal himself to you. And you can also get into.some Baal you don't need any belief for a demonic force to.show.himself to you thell come.
GOD has left his mark on everything us talking like this is otherworldly for real. What we are doing is not of this dimension.

[Sargon The Grape]

Ok at least I can say you have done some thinking on your own that's a relief I'm sure you know how good that is in its self.
But that is no.argument for God not existing even if your calling him a programmer your still admitting there is a creator. Just as a chair will never gain a mind. Only mind can create matter.
You know I've seen entities that were for sure evil seen in the physical world. I've been put in awe with many different things I've seen with witnesses.
I've had a true experience with God as well with witnesses.
You know what makes us alive? You think it's out body parts? If that was true then we could take any dead body and fill.it with good working organs and needed parts and start the heart back up. But you can't bc it's our soul that is our life it's what starts our engine.
You can tell when the life has left a plant.
We live in a crazy realm right now. We're just pieces on a game board.
You know there is no way of denying the existence of God.
Everything is in a perfect cycle. I feel the earth it's self is like a giant timer set for its own end just as we are.
Once you develop a true realtionship with.God there's no more doubts.
Why do you think even the animals know that there's something special about us.
It's like there seeing a ghost every time we cross a wild animals path.
Bc we're very.similar to that of a ghost both spiritual entities.
Do you believe man named himself man?
Many things on earth were past down from the other dimension as we call it.
Who invented the mirror, armor and weapons? Who really showed us how to blacksmith?
Who showed women how to beautify there eye brows etc.
These are bad gifts past down from fallen.angels I believe.
Along with sorcery and witchcraft as well. And if you don't believe in a spiritual side start praying to God to reveal himself to you. And you can also get into.some Baal you don't need any belief for a demonic force to.show.himself to you thell come.
GOD has left his mark on everything us talking like this is otherworldly for real. What we are doing is not of this dimension.

Please turn this word salad into proper paragraphs so I can read it without having an aneurysm.

[Knowing]

Wow! They must have come up w/some special radioactive evangelical ooze just to slop into a jug to make you, man. What inbred hillbilly nowhere did you roll down from? Why aren't you on a corner in Sodom - oh, I mean, Manhattan - preaching the End of Time, w/the rest of your kind? Why come here? You had to know that we were just going to make fun of you. Nobody here is going to buy your garbage! You're welcome to stay as comic relief - but that's all you are.

Homeboy lol I'm not the type of guy that has thin skin. No1 can hurt my feelings.
I bust heads son. I Rob drug dealers, when i was 13 14 I'd wait for the weekend and put on snow gloves and beat down drunks coming out of bars. Real beatdowns lol take any cash on them.
I finished 8 th grade in a juveniles prison then had to.hit fostercare..
A big biker took our beer as kids 3 15 year olds sent that bitch to.the hospital.
My own uncle tried to literally kill me last year.
So make fun bro. Just know you'd get fucked man to man. I'd eat you. Lol lol fat nerdy sob hahaha ull get.fked up in my world

[Knowing]

Please turn this word salad into proper paragraphs so I can read it without having an aneurysm.

I'm on a shit phone bro. Please just copy paste and word wrap.

[Sargon The Grape]

I'm on a shit phone bro.

I've written goddamn essays on my phone. Get on my level.

[reasonist]

Homeboy lol I'm not the type of guy that has thin skin. No1 can hurt my feelings.
I bust heads son. I Rob drug dealers, when i was 13 14 I'd wait for the weekend and put on snow gloves and beat down drunks coming out of bars. Real beatdowns lol take any cash on them.
I finished 8 th grade in a juveniles prison then had to.hit fostercare..
A big biker took our beer as kids 3 15 year olds sent that bitch to.the hospital.
My own uncle tried to literally kill me last year.
So make fun bro. Just know you'd get fucked man to man. I'd eat you. Lol lol fat nerdy sob hahaha ull get.fked up in my world

And then you found god, lol. That post just about sums up your intelligence. You come from a solid background and loving family... Dim yes, but god's fan club needs dolts like you. 

[Knowing]

I've written goddamn essays on my phone. Get on my level.

Get on my level school boy. You can't even read with out a perfect paragraph. Hahaha.
Oh I'm glad your good with a cell phone too great accomplishment. Lol you see the type of shit y'all hit me with corny as fuck.
You probably can't change a tire.

[Knowing]

And then you found god, lol. That post just about sums up your intelligence. You come from a solid background and loving family... Dim yes, but god's fan club needs dolts like you.

another man that has no clue about how to.gauge ones intelligence. I could say I was smarter for the things I've done better instincts of survival. The type of guy that would be the ruler if this web site was are planet. With brute force were both starving after a plane crash in the wilderness. I just took your shit I beat you down and took it. Who's gon die of starvation first? I'll kill you and eat you and whhhhhayyy cry I'm mean lol and all this is of evil of course. But you won't be thinking I'm stupid when I'm eating your.lunch. you'll look real stupid over there crying and hungry.
But real knowledge would be to pray in a time like that so God will keep us all fed as he does the birds. And ask that he makes sure all of us return home safe.

[Knowing]

Ok I'm hearing y'all talk about a bunch of non seance y'all have chose to learn about big words etc.
Nothing useful at all from what I'm hearing.
Can any of you build something can you fix a leaking roof. Can you grow.A garden?
Can you cook from scratch?
Do y'all know. How to do anything useful in life?
Bc I'd.like to understand each of you individually.
How.was yalls life growing up?
Y'all just in a big like feud with me lol
What type of life experiences have y'all had?