Ego and the need for Religion

[Givemeareason]

Mike, as I have told you before, you need to lighten up.

[Mike Cl]

Mike, as I have told you before, you need to lighten up.

I will make a deal with you.  If you start making sense I'll lighten up. 

[aitm]

While they might be scared shitless if they lost their faith, I don't think they worry about that much while they are still within it.

That statement tells me you either have no grasp on the reality of religion or perhaps you are showing some bias towards it. People don't go to church because they are confident in their "deal" with god. They go because they need the assurance that they may still not go to hell.

[Givemeareason]

That statement tells me you either have no grasp on the reality of religion or perhaps you are showing some bias towards it. People don't go to church because they are confident in their "deal" with god. They go because they need the assurance that they may still not go to hell.

There are no doubt idiots that think that way.  But  where did you get that idea?  Did you experience Christianity before becoming athiest  or did you just have a run-in with bible thumpers.

[SkyChief]

I distinctly remember people saying they wanted to eliminate religion.  Did they want to recruit the Christians or kill them?

Honestly, I don't know what their (the folks who want to eliminate religion)  personal goals are. I was only pointing out that collectively, atheist have no agendas with xtians or any other religion, for that matter.

Also there is no desire or need to recruit xtians or believers of other religions into atheism.  That will happen with natural attrition of believers.

If there are any common objectives among (hard) atheists, I would hope that it would be these 3 things;

1) Support separation of church and state; i.e., don't put up silly manger scenes and xmas trees on city property using taxpayer money to pay for the decorations. (the city I live in does this every year and its just wrong  )

2)Don't allow the courts to force a person to swear oath on a bible. Get the bibles out of the courtrooms.

3)Don't force children to make pledges or oaths with the word god. Keep gods out of the public classrooms. Private schools can do whatever  they want.

[aitm]

But  where did you get that idea?  Did you experience Christianity before becoming athiest 

Wow. Really? The vast majority of us are ex-nutjobs. We know the babble better than they do because we went in search for ourselves. We didn't just believe what the preachers and ministers told us, we went looking..

That is why I know.