Mormon Polygamy Weirdness

[stromboli]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/20/polygamist-women-utah-sex-assault-case

Two armed “polygamist women” dressed like “ninjas” were subdued by a
sword-wielding man during a home invasion, according to police in suburban Utah.

Police said the two women, aged 18 and 22, were attacking the home of a witness and victim in a criminal child sex assault case against a man the women called their “husband”.

The women “violently attacked one of the adult males in the house who came to see who was coming,” Ian Adams of the West Jordan police department told the Guardian.

“Another adult male joined the fray in defense of the first male victim. He was armed with a sword, and using a sword … and with the other male [was] able to subdue the two women until police arrived and took them into custody.”

The attack took place just before 4am on Friday. The child witness was home but was not involved in the incident, Adams said.

The two women are in custody at Salt Lake County Jail. Neither their names nor mugshots, nor the name of the “husband”, are being released, because to do so could identify the child victim.

Adams said: “They’re all related.”

Another officer with West Jordan police said the sex assault complaint was against the victim’s uncle.

Two women clad in ninja costumes, armed with knives and stun guns, forced their way through the door. The family believes they were there to abduct a 15-year-old girl inside.

One of the men who subdued the women was interviewed by the local Fox 13 new station. “I went to the bottom of the stairs and saw a couple of ninjas coming down,” the man was quoted as saying. “They were all dark gray or black, and they had black rubber gloves on and masks. All I could see was their eyes.”

The women are both charged with aggravated burglary, aggravated assault and witness tampering, all felonies. After the attack, Adams said, “the two female suspects claimed to be the wives of the male who’s sitting in custody on the child sex offenses”.

“I’ve never seen anything like this in my career,” said Adams. “I have a feeling that as this investigation progresses we’ll have more details. It’s still kind of fresh.”

Adams said he could not provide any further information about the type of sword that had been used to subdue the women.

West Jordan is a suburb of Salt Lake City, and is home to about 110,000 people, according to the US Census Bureau.

Plural marriage was practised in Utah by members of the Mormon church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, until the 1890s, when it was rejected by the church and banned by the state.

In August, an appeals court in Utah partially lifted the ban, allowing a man and a woman to marry and live with others they consider “spouses”, after a lawsuit by stars of the cable network show Sister Wives.

Utah. you can't make this shit up. 

[SGOS]

I had  hard time following who was fighting who with what.  It sounds like the Three Stooges.

[Munch]

Nothing wrong with polygamy, as long as all three adults are consenting into it.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

I hope no turtles were harmed in the making of the story..

[stromboli]

2 polygamous mormon housewives in ninja suits breaking into a house in the suburbs armed with stun guns to kidnap a 15 year old girl. Met by 2 men, one of whom was carrying a sword. This is:

A. An  episode of Monty Python

B. A "B" rate movie made in Hong Kong on a shoestring budget

C. The episode of "Full House" that never got aired

D. Mormon Utah

Seriously, you can't make this shit up. And I live here. 

[Desdinova]

Isn't polygamy against the law in Utah and the US in general?  And I thought the Mormon church altered their stance on polygamy as part of the great compromise or whatever it was called.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

Isn't polygamy against the law in Utah and the US in general?  And I thought the Mormon church altered their stance on polygamy as part of the great compromise or whatever it was called.

It was a vision from god himself as the US Army at the time was set to enforce the law of the land.. The army gets to conjure up holy visions in others dontcha know?

[stromboli]

Isn't polygamy against the law in Utah and the US in general?  And I thought the Mormon church altered their stance on polygamy as part of the great compromise or whatever it was called.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/polygamous-living-legal-utah-judge-sister-wives-ruling-article-1.1920071

The “Sister Wives” have won another victory in their long battle to find acceptance for their big, polygamous family.

A Utah judge issued a final ruling Wednesday in the lawsuit filed by reality TV stars Kody Brown and his four wives, officially striking down part of the state’s anti-polygamy law that banned polygamous cohabitation.

The Browns said the decision reaffirmed the right of all families “to be free from government abuse.”

“While we know that many people do not approve of plural families, it is our family and based on our religious beliefs,” Kody Brown said in a statement released to Fox13. “ Just as we respect the personal and religious choices of other families, we hope that in time all of our neighbors and fellow citizens will come to respect our own choices as part of this wonderful country of different faiths and beliefs.”

All of this has essentially decriminalized polygamous cohabitiation in Utah, a crime that used to punishable by up to five years in prison, The Salt Lake Tribune reported. In his ruling, U.S. District Judge Clark Waddoups found that the cohabitation ban violated the First and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution.

However, it is still illegal to obtain multiple active marriage licenses. But this isn’t a problem for most polygamous families, Buzzfeed reports. After the first marriage, most families perform “spiritual” or religious ceremonies without needing official state approval.

Simply put, cohabitation is not against the law. In polygamy you can be married to one wife legally by the state and spiritually married to as many partners as you want.

If they legalize gay marriage, "Rugby Scrum" will take on a whole new meaning.

[Solitary]

I really don't see why polygamy is any ones business if people aren't forced into it. But why is it always one man and many wives instead of one woman and many husbands?  Again, women are sex objects to be used. It's a man's world after all. Isn't it? 

[SGOS]

I wonder if the church elders will now be visited by the holy spirit and informed that God has decided that he approves of polygamy once again, and it was a mistake to make it a sin.

[stromboli]

I wonder if the church elders will now be visited by the holy spirit and informed that God has decided that he approves of polygamy once again, and it was a mistake to make it a sin.

I have no doubt that thought will cross many an elder's mind. But it creates a conundrum for the church, since they have actively been against polygamy for some time, and have not supported it. And the legality of one wife/cohabitation also is contradictory to the church's stance on legal marriage. So if they decide to have a revelation, I guarantee the PR boys are working overtime on how to sell it. I also guarantee it will become an issue at some point, but how they manipulate will be anybody's guess. They've got more lawyers than British Petroleum.

Another problem is if they allow it, they will be putting themselves in the spot of performing temple marriages for cohabiting and not legally married couples, which is also not kosher at the present time. And yet another issue is the people they have excommunicated for practicing polygamy. Fun  stuff, imo.