How Feminism Hurts Men

[Jason78]

Don't sugar coat it Sab!  

Tell us what you really think!

[SilentFutility]

But I've always thought that if women could truly rise above the stereotypes and expectations placed on them, and the negative behaviors they themselves commit, then women would probably dominate the planet.

So if all women never did a single thing wrong and were behaviorally perfect they'd dominate the planet?
Well, yeah...any human with completely and utterly perfect traits would rise to the top.

I'm not really sure what your point is other than "if women became perfect they'd be the best", which is obvious given that nobody is currently perfect.

[frosty]

But I've always thought that if women could truly rise above the stereotypes and expectations placed on them, and the negative behaviors they themselves commit, then women would probably dominate the planet.

So if all women never did a single thing wrong and were behaviorally perfect they'd dominate the planet?
Well, yeah...any human with completely and utterly perfect traits would rise to the top.

I'm not really sure what your point is other than "if women became perfect they'd be the best", which is obvious given that nobody is currently perfect.

Not really. They can still be flawed, my point was that to go from being servants of men and then liberating themselves, to going back to being viewed as sex objects by modern society the struggle seems never ending. If they were to defeat this current hurdle I'm sure even the idea of sexual harassment against women and discrimination against women would be a complete thing of the past. But it seems females enjoy their spot in a consumerist, sex-oriented western paradise so I shouldn't disturb the peace.

[Hydra009]

Theer are two types of feminists- Gender feminists and Liberal feminists. Liberal feminist want equality and should be supported. gender feminists are barking mad eveil wicthes and should be mercilessly mocked,derided and demonsied wherever possible.

[Sargon The Grape]

Theer are two types of feminists- Gender feminists and Liberal feminists. Liberal feminist want equality and should be supported. gender feminists are barking mad eveil wicthes and should be mercilessly mocked,derided and demonsied wherever possible.

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[SilentFutility]

But I've always thought that if women could truly rise above the stereotypes and expectations placed on them, and the negative behaviors they themselves commit, then women would probably dominate the planet.

So if all women never did a single thing wrong and were behaviorally perfect they'd dominate the planet?
Well, yeah...any human with completely and utterly perfect traits would rise to the top.

I'm not really sure what your point is other than "if women became perfect they'd be the best", which is obvious given that nobody is currently perfect.

Not really. They can still be flawed, my point was that to go from being servants of men and then liberating themselves, to going back to being viewed as sex objects by modern society the struggle seems never ending. If they were to defeat this current hurdle I'm sure even the idea of sexual harassment against women and discrimination against women would be a complete thing of the past. But it seems females enjoy their spot in a consumerist, sex-oriented western paradise so I shouldn't disturb the peace.

Are women in modern-day western society viewed as sex objects significantly more than men?

Granted, more of a fuss is made about them being viewed in this way, however it isn't like TV shows, films and advertising aren't chock-full of half-naked male models to be ogled at. Is the problem women being seen as sex objects, or is the problem sexualisation being an acceptable tool for selling things, gaining viewership etc. etc.?

[frosty]

Are women in modern-day western society viewed as sex objects significantly more than men?

Granted, more of a fuss is made about them being viewed in this way, however it isn't like TV shows, films and advertising aren't chock-full of half-naked male models to be ogled at. Is the problem women being seen as sex objects, or is the problem sexualisation being an acceptable tool for selling things, gaining viewership etc. etc.?

My personal view? I would say the problem is both. "Sex sells" is probably one of the most correct and down to Earth sayings in history. Of course men are sexualised as well but women, I would say, are done far more frequently and in a far more abusive manner. I speculated a few pages back that over-sexualisation may have a role to play in this whole issue but that in itself is such a massive problem that I am not even going to try to pretend like I have the solution to it.

[SilentFutility]

Are women in modern-day western society viewed as sex objects significantly more than men?

Granted, more of a fuss is made about them being viewed in this way, however it isn't like TV shows, films and advertising aren't chock-full of half-naked male models to be ogled at. Is the problem women being seen as sex objects, or is the problem sexualisation being an acceptable tool for selling things, gaining viewership etc. etc.?

My personal view? I would say the problem is both. "Sex sells" is probably one of the most correct and down to Earth sayings in history. Of course men are sexualised as well but women, I would say, are done far more frequently and in a far more abusive manner. I speculated a few pages back that over-sexualisation may have a role to play in this whole issue but that in itself is such a massive problem that I am not even going to try to pretend like I have the solution to it.

Fair enough.
I also think it is ridiculous these days. Take a look at pop videos and all you have are mediocre idiots making sexual poses as close to naked as they dare go as that is what sells records en masse, not decent music.