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Kasich is taking MY votes

Started by Gerard, April 04, 2016, 02:32:22 PM

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Gerard

That's what Trump is saying....

http://us.cnn.com/2016/04/03/politics/donald-trump-john-kasich-2016-election/index.html

How are they HIS votes? Who gave the billionaire an entitlement to them? And why aren't voters insisting that the votes are THEIRS! This is just disrespectful towards the voters (remember, the ones that actually OWN these votes). This is just disrespectful language and nobody seems to point that out!

Gerard

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#1
Just more prattle from Trump.  I suppose, you could sit down and connect some unrelated dots, or you might even go so far as to conjure up some dots out of thin air to explain the statement in some way that superficially sounds a little like logic.  You may even convince yourself in so doing, you have achieved some insight into a keen mind that is operating on some higher level not easily understood by the commoner.  But as in all this sort of enigmatic gibberish, it's just prattle.

Baruch

If you voted for Kasich, or your state allocated delegates to Kasich, based on the voting then you are partially, or totally on the Kasich plantation (or some other Gone With The R plantation).  He owns you, or part of you.  Americans haven't been free since last least 1913, not free from enslavement by Congress.  Don't mess up your blackface, and get back out in the cotton fields.
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Don't do that.

Solomon Zorn

I would guess Kasich is more likely getting votes that would have went to Cruz, anyway.
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widdershins

Technically, (and I hate to admit this, but) Trump has a point.  Kasich cannot win through votes.  There aren't enough delegates left for him to actually win the primary.  The only reason he is staying in is on the hope that, if nobody else reaches a majority either, the establishment will throw out the top 2 contenders and go with him instead.  So, essentially, yes, he is trying to steal delegates he has not earned through votes from both Trump and Cruz, a tactic slimy enough to be almost Cruz-worthy, in my opinion.  But he's not really trying to steal "votes".  He's trying to make them irrelevant.  On top of that, according to a rule the RNC made up to help Mittens in 2012, he's not even eligible to be on the ballot, so any votes he got would, again, be votes he was not entitled to, based on the convention rules.  Though many establishment Republicans are very eager to scrap that rule ASAP to keep their boy, "ANYONE but Trump or Cruz" in the race.
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Gerard

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Quote from: widdershins on April 05, 2016, 03:06:59 PM
Technically, (and I hate to admit this, but) Trump has a point.  Kasich cannot win through votes.  There aren't enough delegates left for him to actually win the primary.  The only reason he is staying in is on the hope that, if nobody else reaches a majority either, the establishment will throw out the top 2 contenders and go with him instead.  So, essentially, yes, he is trying to steal delegates he has not earned through votes from both Trump and Cruz, a tactic slimy enough to be almost Cruz-worthy, in my opinion.  But he's not really trying to steal "votes".  He's trying to make them irrelevant.  On top of that, according to a rule the RNC made up to help Mittens in 2012, he's not even eligible to be on the ballot, so any votes he got would, again, be votes he was not entitled to, based on the convention rules.  Though many establishment Republicans are very eager to scrap that rule ASAP to keep their boy, "ANYONE but Trump or Cruz" in the race.

Quote from: Atheon on April 05, 2016, 10:40:52 PM
Kasich is anti-abortion.
Sure, but that doesn't disqualify him from taking more votes and delegates. Don't be fooled into believing that the primaries combined with the convention are necessarily a democratic process. They are a means to select a candidate for a party. And a party is basically a private owned institution. If the Rep's have any sense and decide that they actually have to work together with the other forces that are in power in the federal government instead of blocking all things they don't agree with, Kasich might be a handy tool for them. It might be sensible for them to use it.....

Gerard

Baruch

It took 3 ballots in the 1860 convention for the Republicans to choose Mr Lincoln as their nominee.  He wasn't the leader going into the convention, Mr Seward (of Alaska purchase fame) was the leader.  Of course back then you didn't have any primaries, just caucus-es in smoke filled rooms with guys puffing away on cigars and drinking whiskey ;-)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_Republican_National_Convention
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
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Don't do that.

AllPurposeAtheist

Kashich is a turd just like the rest of the republicans.. He was almost trounced out of the governorship in Ohio when he tried the same public employee bullshit they got away with in Wisconsin.  The people in Ohio weren't having any of it.
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widdershins

Quote from: Gerard on April 05, 2016, 11:31:40 PM
Sure, but that doesn't disqualify him from taking more votes and delegates. Don't be fooled into believing that the primaries combined with the convention are necessarily a democratic process. They are a means to select a candidate for a party. And a party is basically a private owned institution. If the Rep's have any sense and decide that they actually have to work together with the other forces that are in power in the federal government instead of blocking all things they don't agree with, Kasich might be a handy tool for them. It might be sensible for them to use it.....

Gerard
Actually, the rule put in place last time to help Mitt Romney does disqualify him from being on the ballot.
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