Shooting in Calgary

[pr126]

‘They saved lives last night’: Bouncers tackle gunman opening fire in Ten X nightclub

Mohamed Elmi, 31, and Mohamed Salad, 29, both of Calgary, each face the following charges:

    Discharge firearm with intent to endanger life
    Unauthorized possession of a firearm
    Unauthorized possession of a firearm in a vehicle
    Possession of firearm with altered or defaced serial number
    Aggravated assault
    Pointing a firearm

Thankfully, the incident had nothing to do with Islam or Muslims.

[Baruch]

Just another shoot out at the saloon, happens all the time in the US.  And were these Muslims drunk?  If so, not true Scotsmen.

May I suggest cutting out articles to share, but only if they involve midgets ... so we can be prejudiced against midgets?

[Hurt]

“About five or 10 minutes later, I’m out front and the gun is laying on the sidewalk and the police officer tells me to move out of the way because the hammer is still cocked back and it could go off.”

Pffft, stupid cop. Pick it up and clear it, it won't bite.

[Baruch]

Pffft, stupid cop. Pick it up and clear it, it won't bite.

Destroys evidence, by adding cop's finger prints.  Per criminal forensics, the cops can't do anything, until after the crime scene team gets there.

[stromboli]

Pffft, stupid cop. Pick it up and clear it, it won't bite.

Sorry, but protocol undoubtedly involves leaving the weapon in place and marking. The idea is to freeze the crime scene as it is to preserve every aspect of it. This is what many seasons of CSI has taught me. CSI: Miami not so much.

[Shiranu]

That was one of the first things I learned in forensic and archeology classes... you DO NOT touch shit before it's been properly documented and identified.

[Sargon The Grape]

Mohamed Salad

He would be if those were American cops apprehending him.

I'll see myself out.

[Hurt]

Destroys evidence, by adding cop's finger prints.  Per criminal forensics, the cops can't do anything, until after the crime scene team gets there.

When I was a cop in the military I would have had my ass handed to me if I failed to secure a loaded weapon. There was no secret who committed the crime so no need to brush for prints. Secure the weapon, annotate where it was picked up, place it in an evidence bag and ensure chain of custody. No need to do ballistics or any of that other horseshit that Hollywood says is necessary. It's on video with several witnesses.

I say again, pick it up and clear it.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Destroys evidence, by adding cop's finger prints.  Per criminal forensics, the cops can't do anything, until after the crime scene team gets there.

Sorry, but protocol undoubtedly involves leaving the weapon in place and marking. The idea is to freeze the crime scene as it is to preserve every aspect of it. This is what many seasons of CSI has taught me. CSI: Miami not so much.

That was one of the first things I learned in forensic and archeology classes... you DO NOT touch shit before it's been properly documented and identified.

All right. In a forensic case once a site is declared a crime scene nothing should be touched. The exception to this is if someone's life is immediate danger.

When I was a cop in the military I would have had my ass handed to me if I failed to secure a loaded weapon. There was no secret who committed the crime so no need to brush for prints. Secure the weapon, annotate where it was picked up, place it in an evidence bag and ensure chain of custody. No need to do ballistics or any of that other horseshit that Hollywood says is necessary. It's on video with several witnesses.

I say again, pick it up and clear it.

Forensics is a weird field, at least in the US. See, in forensics scientists have to butt heads with lawyers in court. Lawyers, as we all know, are squirrely little fucks who will use the most convoluted arguments to get their preferred outcome, it is therefore prudent for the forensic scientists to preserve as much evidence as possible so that the lawyer's arguments get shut down.

ETA: Loaded weapons are to be unloaded though. First the weapon must be photographed, and then it needs to be picked up where fingerprints would be unlikely and then unloaded. After that it should be secured to a cardboard backing with zipties, put in a box, and then transported to the lab for analysis.

[aitm]

Stupid people. A loaded gun is to be quietly picked up and stuffed into a box for use later as a drop when all these pigs are out shooting people for no reason……shhhhheeeeeessssh.

[Hurt]

Stupid people. A loaded gun is to be quietly picked up and stuffed into a box for use later as a drop when all these pigs are out shooting people for no reason……shhhhheeeeeessssh.

Exactly, how hard is that? You can't expect everyone you shoot to have a weapon on them.