Keep discrimination legal because Bible tells businesses not to hire atheists

Started by josephpalazzo, April 10, 2016, 12:16:20 PM

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josephpalazzo

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/04/fox-guest-keep-discrimination-legal-because-bible-tells-businesses-not-to-hire-atheists/
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““There’s a lot of reasons why Christians or Jews might not want to hire an atheist,” he continued. “In fact, it’s in the New Testament. It says things like avoid them and disassociate with them. You might have a job, for example, where you want someone who believes in a higher power.”

“For example,” Adams said, “maybe you’re an airline and hiring pilots who you prefer they maybe believe in Hell. To tell people that you can’t only hire people of faith intrudes on their free exercise of faith.”
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As if every atheist wants to die in a fireball taking as many people with them as possible... what nonsense...

Nonsensei

"If you don't permit me to do whatever I want in the name of my religion, you are intruding upon my religious freedom!"
And on the wings of a dream so far beyond reality
All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you'll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on

Johan

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by the rulers as useful

sdelsolray

Ever since the SCOTUS handed down the Hobby Lobby decision, these armchair theocrat wannabes are attempting to impose their religious beliefs on everyone else through interstate commerce.

Baruch

Quote from: sdelsolray on April 10, 2016, 03:34:36 PM
Ever since the SCOTUS handed down the Hobby Lobby decision, these armchair theocrat wannabes are attempting to impose their religious beliefs on everyone else through interstate commerce.

Correct, and why I hope Scalia is barbecue right now.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

TomFoolery

Quote"To tell people that you can’t only hire people of faith intrudes on their free exercise of faith."

Which faith? See, I've recently converted to the Mayan faith and read my Popol Vuh daily. I've been trying to get a permit to sacrifice a human child upon the advent of a new political leader this fall, but no one will take my phone call.

Wait, what's this? America is a Christian nation? The free exercise of faith should only count for the Christian religion?

First of all, South America is America, and the Mayans were here long before the Puritans, so fuck off. Second of all, we could play a game where we take turns flipping to a random passage in the Bible, act it out, and whomever is the last to end up in jail wins.

By this argument, I should be able to drain the blood of enemies I've conquered in battle in accordance with my Mayan faith because my free exercise of faith trumps all other rights, including their right to life. Or we could just forget the whole thing and realize that rights often overlap and concessions are generally made that are in the best interest of everyone, and I'll stop insisting that I should be able to gut your child on an altar if you'll agree to stop trying to keep me from accessing birth control or equal opportunity employment.
How can you be sure my refusal to agree with your claim a symptom of my ignorance and not yours?

Mike Cl

Quote from: TomFoolery on April 10, 2016, 04:11:33 PM

Second of all, we could play a game where we take turns flipping to a random passage in the Bible, act it out, and whomever is the last to end up in jail wins.

Dammit!  TomFollery!!  This statement caused me to snort coffee up my nose as I was taking a sip!  Do you know how much that hurts???? :))  I have not come across this idea--it's great!!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Baruch

Yes, Christians got the wrong message, when they watched Apocalypto.  In fact Cortez and Montezuma had much in common, when Cortez tried to explain Mass and Transubstantiation to the Mexican Emperor ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

AllPurposeAtheist

Quote from: TomFoolery on April 10, 2016, 04:11:33 PM
Which faith? See, I've recently converted to the Mayan faith and read my Popol Vuh daily. I've been trying to get a permit to sacrifice a human child upon the advent of a new political leader this fall, but no one will take my phone call.

Wait, what's this? America is a Christian nation? The free exercise of faith should only count for the Christian religion?

First of all, South America is America, and the Mayans were here long before the Puritans, so fuck off. Second of all, we could play a game where we take turns flipping to a random passage in the Bible, act it out, and whomever is the last to end up in jail wins.

By this argument, I should be able to drain the blood of enemies I've conquered in battle in accordance with my Mayan faith because my free exercise of faith trumps all other rights, including their right to life. Or we could just forget the whole thing and realize that rights often overlap and concessions are generally made that are in the best interest of everyone, and I'll stop insisting that I should be able to gut your child on an altar if you'll agree to stop trying to keep me from accessing birth control or equal opportunity employment.
That's what we need..OLD TIME RELIGION!  Let's bring back human sacrifice and especially the part where we can rip out live human hearts and burn them live as an offering to the gods! ON TEEVEE! AT HALF-TIME DURING THE SUPERBOWL! Screw those half naked wannabe entertainers. Let's have some REAL human suffering and torment that can really reunite us as a people! And none of this new fangled surgical instruments bullshit..Let's get back to our roots of ripping hearts out with stone tools! 

Damn! I forgot my old time favorite..TOSSING VIRGINS INTO VOLCANOES!  After all..they play the pro bowl in Hawaii and they damned sure have live volcanoes so NO MORE EXCUSES!
All hail my new signature!

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SGOS

Quote from: TomFoolery on April 10, 2016, 04:11:33 PM
By this argument, I should be able to drain the blood of enemies I've conquered in battle in accordance with my Mayan faith because my free exercise of faith trumps all other rights, including their right to life. Or we could just forget the whole thing and realize that rights often overlap and concessions are generally made that are in the best interest of everyone, and I'll stop insisting that I should be able to gut your child on an altar if you'll agree to stop trying to keep me from accessing birth control or equal opportunity employment.

Not that I  think any religion in the US is going to demand a human sacrifice in the next 20 years or so (although it could happen), but writing laws that allow discrimination on the grounds of "RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE"  does have broader implications than just allowing discrimination by Christians desiring to express their personal animosity towards,... or punish an arbitrarily defined "evil minority."

I expect legislators that write these laws to consider the broader implications of any law they concoct.  To me it should be the very essence of their job description.  Unfortunately, we don't elect leaders with great reasoning skills.  We elect them for reasons that often have very little to do with intelligence.  Hopefully, these sorts of shortsighted legislations get sorted out at the level of the Supreme Court composed by people with degrees in Law and an understanding of legal implications, but even the Court's lack of bias teeters on a fine edge today.

Freedom and Democracy are very fragile concepts, but somewhere there are always power mad assholes that want to destroy it for their own purposes.  And there's always a few dictators waiting for a chance to step in and take over.  But that could never happen in the United States, right?

widdershins

You know, I can't seem to remember a single person ever arguing that we should do away with Title VII of the Civil Rights Act because atheists should have the right to not hire Christians.  In fact, I seen to remember a shitty, fact-devoid movie from Ben Stein bitching about how people were being denied employment because of their religious beliefs (or acceptance of really, real science.  It seemed to kind of jump back and forth there when defining intelligent design to whichever definition was convenient for Fuck Face Stein at the moment).  And while I don't have numbers on hand, I seem to remember reading about a hell of a lot of lawsuits over the last few years from religious people claiming discrimination on the basis of religion.  Now, granted, most of the ones I remember were Muslims suing for stupid shit like the right to model Ambercrombie clothing in the store under their bee keeper outfits (okay, that was a little facetious, but just a little.  I can do better).  I know they're trying to piss off atheists because all we'll do about it is make them look stupid, but they'll be so stupid when it happens that they won't even realize it, but do they really want to piss off a bunch of Muslims by taking away their right to whine as much as Christians?  Because those guys will model some fucking TNT on your doorstep (I told you I could do better).
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Unbeliever

Quote from: Mike Cl on April 10, 2016, 04:34:45 PM
Dammit!  TomFollery!!  This statement caused me to snort coffee up my nose as I was taking a sip!  Do you know how much that hurts???? :))  I have not come across this idea--it's great!!


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