Dumbest Christian praise music

[Blackleaf]

Being religious, and being self-congratulatory ... often go together ;-(

Which is quite ironic, since the Bible says that God gets all the credit for what good things his people do, so their prideful attitudes are rather sacrilegious.

[Baruch]

The opposite neurosis also occurs ... being religious, and being over self-denigrating.  It is very hard to be balanced on the teeter-totter of life.

[Blackleaf]

*insert all of them here*

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Careful not to overgeneralize. Yes, there is a ton of bad Christian music, but that goes for just about every musical genre too. There is good stuff out there, but you probably won't hear it in church or on the radio. Worship music usually all sounds the same and use the same Christian jargon, so that listeners feel as non-threatened as possible.

I particularly enjoy Thousand Foot Krutch's music. Their singer has kind of a Linkin Park kind of voice, but a little richer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdnTSXUWd3E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGSvITdmrXM

[Baruch]

How about some of the original score ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKjForhzzpU&list=PLrk2q3udluwn9tEPIyOY4yC0j0Z02-2KG

Something that is obscure and easily forgotten by the Jewish community (and miffed cantors), let along Gentiles.

Here is the key verse of the whole Tanakh ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlhymKyb7a0

[Blackleaf]

How about some of the original score ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKjForhzzpU&list=PLrk2q3udluwn9tEPIyOY4yC0j0Z02-2KG

Something that is obscure and easily forgotten by the Jewish community (and miffed cantors), let along Gentiles.

Here is the key verse of the whole Tanakh ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlhymKyb7a0

That is interesting. I was under the impression that that music was lost forever. What took them so long to figure it out?

[Baruch]

The way cantors sing today, has only been around for 500 years ... and they make up a self protecting guild.  The musical notations from from a Karaite Tanakh that is 500 years older than their tradition.  And Karaite, not rabbinic.  The Karaite community is only a little bit bigger than the Samaritans (who are more Biblical than the rabbinic faction).  A lot of loss has occurred in the many depredations all Jewish communities have faced over the last 1000 years.

Now what makes Vantoura unique, is that she is both a musician, and a lay Jewish scholar.  She has since passed on, and the Jewish community has ignored her for 30+ years now.  Vantoura reverse-engineered the musical notes, as only a musician could do.  A cantor has not incentive to try.  A rabbi has not musical knowledge.  And nobody wants to admit that there has ever been any alternative to rabbinic Judaism.

[Baruch]

The melodic motif of "Oh Come Immanuel" goes back to the Gregorian Chant (600 CE) that was used with the Lord's Prayer in Latin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llAhO_FOe1g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPHh3nMMu-I

See, I don't agree with the poster.  Holy lyric, even the Tanakh in true melody, is something outside of this world ;-)  Scripture is poetry, is lyric.  But then angels/demons are real ... we have met the heavenly host, rising and falling, and they are us.  Amen.

How about the orchestral version of the Our Father ... in the original Aramaic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPzdRcQ8Cso

The folk melody, for Good King Wenceslaus ... was folk English, used in the Spring dance to the goddess Eostre ... before the Anglo-Saxons became Christian.  Strange survivals indeed.

The past is never completely past.

[Atheist Kawaii^^]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUraR6rRwBM

[Baruch]

300 years ago, before the invention of modern geology ... the Earth scientists were divided into two camps, the Neptunists and the Vulcanists.  Basically that rocks were deposited by water or by volcanoes.  Of course both were right.  But the Neptunists didn't have far to go from Noah's flood story.  The Vulcanists of course were Hell raisers ;-) ... even if the Neptunists were all wet ;-))