Vatican Raises Age Of Consent From 12 To 18

Started by stromboli, October 04, 2014, 09:00:20 PM

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stromboli

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/vatican-city-raises-age-consent-12-18-following-scandals120713

QuoteVatican City’s equal age of consent is being raised from 12 to 18 following the announcement of an overhaul of the Catholic Church’s criminal code by Pope Francis.

Francis has also ordered that Vatican City adopt international norms to prevent transnational criminal activities.

‘It is … necessary for the international community to adopt adequate legal instruments to prevent and counter criminal activities, by promoting international judicial cooperation on criminal matters,’ Francis said in a statement released by the Holy See yesterday.

‘In ratifying numerous international conventions in these areas, and acting also on behalf of Vatican City State, the Holy See has constantly maintained that such agreements are effective means to prevent criminal activities that threaten human dignity, the common good and peace.’

Until now Vatican City has had the lowest age of consent in Europe despite decades of child sex scandals within the church, while sex between people of the same sex has been legal in the city state since 1889.

Under the new rules, sex with a person under the age of 18, prostitution or possession of child pornography will be punished with up to 12 years in prison.

Previously such crimes would have been punished with a maximum sentence of 3 to 10 years.

However Francis has also made it a crime for agents of the church to leak Vatican information after Vatican butler to Pope Benedict XVI, Paolo Gabriele, leaked information about corruption within the Catholic church - potentially discouraging whistleblowers.

The US based Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) called the changes merely cosmetic.

‘While the headlines may proclaim “Pope makes new church rules about abuse,” the fine print makes it clear that there’s just one rule, and it purportedly makes more child sexual violence illegal on the 0.2 square miles of Vatican property,’ SNAP spokesman David Clohessy said.

‘In the real world, this changes virtually nothing. It’s is precisely the kind of ‘feel good’ gesture that Vatican officials have long specialized in: tweaking often-ignored and ineffective internal church abuse guidelines to generate positive headlines but nothing more.

‘The church hierarchy doesn't need new rules on abuse. It needs to follow long-established secular laws on abuse. And it needs to push for, not oppose, real reforms to archaic, predator-friendly secular laws - like the statute of limitations.

‘Church officials, starting with Pope Francis, need to actually punish those who conceal and enable abuse, which they have ample power to do but inadequate courage to do. Sacking even one of the hundreds of complicit bishops across the world would do far more to protect kids and deter cover ups than this small change to a rule that’s likely never been or never will be used.’

Francis has warned of a gay lobby within the church and has likened adoption by same-sex couples to child abuse.


Until now Vatican City has had the lowest age of consent in Europe despite decades of child sex scandals within the church, while sex between people of the same sex has been legal in the city state since 1889.

Holy shit. This is unbelievable. They have been "consensually" sodomizing 12 year old boys since 1889? A 12 year old in the confines of a city-state with no option but to comply?

This shit needs to be broadcast to the entire Catholic world. No wonder young Catholics are leaving.

Minimalist

It's completely believable for these medieval pricks.
The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails.

-- H. L. Mencken

Munch

It's funny how this has been a constant for generations but that it was considered legal by the Vatican only comes to light now. Further proof that it's a cult needs to die out, and its gold deposits go to help save starving children.
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AllPurposeAtheist

#3
Now now.. How can ya hate a guy named Frankie?  Look, just because they’ve allowed child rape for centuries and just because they have a long history of bullshitting the entire world and just because they were in league with Nazi’s doesn't mean they're not serious..

Feel free to add on whatever 'just because they...' you like.. I haven't had my coffee yet..
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SGOS

Twelve?  TWELVE???  Well, I suppose it's one of the old laws that is so outdated, that no one ever thought about changing it.  Instead, the Vatican, simply policed itself using a system of high moral standards and personal ethics, so you really don't need a law to enforce something that no one in the Vatican would do anyway.  So indeed, this amounts to some cosmetic tidying up, nothing more really.  The purity of the church just goes on, guided by the hand of a loving God.

AllPurposeAtheist

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Quote from: SGOS on October 05, 2014, 05:34:54 AM
Twelve?  TWELVE???  Well, I suppose it's one of the old laws that is so outdated, that no one ever thought about changing it.  Instead, the Vatican, simply policed itself using a system of high moral standards and personal ethics, so you really don't need a law to enforce something that no one in the Vatican would do anyway.  So indeed, this amounts to some cosmetic tidying up, nothing more really.  The purity of the church just goes on, guided by the hand of a loving God.
Yup, just like the South Carolina Ethics Committee.. Works just like a charm every time.. Of course no Hanky Panky EVER goes on in South Carolina.. They're far to moral here..
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baronvonrort

I wonder when the Saudis will bring in a minimum age for young children to get married, probably when porcine animals become aerodynamic

stromboli

#7
Here's the marriage ages by country
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age

(you can marry a 14 year old in Bolivia)

By state
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_marriage_in_United_States_of_America



baronvonrort

Quote from: stromboli on October 05, 2014, 09:47:31 AM
Here's the marriage ages by country
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age

(you can marry a 14 year old in Bolivia)


Saudi Arabia and Yemen are the only countries that do not have a minimum age according to your link,countries like Mauritania are a bit vague as is Sudan which only mentions puberty.


stromboli

Quote from: baronvonrort on October 05, 2014, 09:56:39 AM
Saudi Arabia and Yemen are the only countries that do not have a minimum age according to your link,countries like Mauritania are a bit vague as is Sudan which only mentions puberty.

I'm pretty sure that among various polygamist groups all over the world that marriage, based on both the bible and the koran, is after puberty. That doesn't get reported anywhere.