Pope John Paul II to be sainted

[ApostateLois]

Glinda was an asshole. Who'd want her for a saint?

[David]

Despite being a comfirmed ?! atheist I going to try (more likely fail ) a defence of catholics, [-X your average catholic I have found is kind, honest ,never in your face religion nut usually working class/blue collar ,salt of the earth and any other saying which describes your average joe.

As a basis a way of life catholicism  its one of the better freak shows but it has its faults ,well it has many now and in its past (dont mention the Spanish inquistion(English humour!) which we all know, blond haired Jesus ,pro life ,vatican paedophiles the vatican itself the list is well known.
Your average catholic I believe is looking for what Marx described as the opium of the people, something to believe in to give meaning and hope to their usually impoverished life, I know we can spend all day taking the rise but as a human and nothing else Pope John Paul II tried to improve and represent his followers,maybe Francis is trying to do the same if we are just going to make fun of catholics then we are doing atheism a dis-service.I dont agree with Gods Jesus,bibles,islam whatever but I do believe in finding a basis for all to live

Rant over and ready to be shot down

[Hydra009]

Despite being a comfirmed ?! atheist I going to try (more likely fail ) a defence of catholics, [-X your average catholic I have found is kind, honest ,never in your face religion nut usually working class/blue collar ,salt of the earth and any other saying which describes your average joe.

Same deal with every major religion.  The people are generally quite agreeable (except for the loons), but the religion itself is contemptibly idiotic.

Your average catholic I believe is looking for what Marx described as the opium of the people, something to believe in to give meaning and hope to their usually impoverished life, I know we can spend all day taking the rise but as a human and nothing else Pope John Paul II tried to improve and represent his followers,maybe Francis is trying to do the same if we are just going to make fun of catholics then we are doing atheism a dis-service.

How does poking fun at the Catholic tendency to confer sainthood on people that we know full well were 100% human do a disservice to atheism?   :-k

Come to think of it, giving this sort of crap a free pass is exactly the wrong thing to do.

I dont agree with Gods Jesus,bibles,islam whatever but I do believe in finding a basis for all to live

Relevance?

Rant over and ready to be shot down

Well, if you insist...

[David]

How does poking fun at the Catholic tendency to confer sainthood on people that we know full well were 100% human do a disservice to atheism? :-k


Nice shooting,this whole thread is just taking the piss out of the Pope and his sainthood we know its not possible, couldnt atheists be a bit move constructive in discussing and pointing that out,if we are here just to take the piss perhaps atheism is just as shallow as catholicism.I always hoped atheism is based a bit more in the real world... :shock:

[Hydra009]

couldnt atheists be a bit move constructive in discussing and pointing that out,if we are here just to take the piss perhaps atheism is just as shallow as catholicism.I always hoped atheism is based a bit more in the real world... :shock:

[David]

Seems Im wrong,back to the mockery of every religion everyone,

[Colanth]

perhaps atheism is just as shallow as catholicism.I always hoped atheism is based a bit more in the real world... :shock:

Atheism isn't shallow, it's not deep and all it's based on is lack of belief in any gods.  If you don't believe in any gods you're an atheist.  You can be an idiot, a nasty SOB, an antisocial murderer, but if you don't believe in any gods you're still an atheist.

[Shiranu]

Meh, if the RCC can tell Africans its okay to get AIDS and have 10 more kids than you can afford because, "At least you aren't using a condom, which god hates!", promotes anti-homosexual mindsets that lead to gays being tortured and killed... then I think its more than perfectly fine for us to take the piss on a guy who let sexual abuse run rampant under his reign being deemed a "saint".

That's just me, though.

And Catholics have been regular Joes from my experience as well; hypocritical to hell about their religion, but no better or worse than anyone else. Doesn't mean I cant laugh at the silly things they do.

[Minimalist]

couldnt atheists be a bit move constructive in discussing and pointing that out,

Anyone dumb enough to fall for the sainthood farce is not going to change their mind because of anything said here.

[The Skeletal Atheist]

Seems Im wrong,back to the mockery of every religion everyone,

Welcome. I see you haven't become properly bitter yet...that will change.