Hate NASCAR but will watch this one time.

Started by Brian37, February 18, 2013, 06:43:40 AM

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Alaric I

Quote from: "BarkAtTheMoon"
Quote from: "SilentFutility"
Quote from: "BarkAtTheMoon"It's a button on the steering wheel that gives the car a shot of extra horsepower that has basically the same effect. They can use it at anytime on the track, though it takes X number of seconds to reload that I think works out to basically once in a lap, and they each have a set number for the entire race. The car in front would be allowed to use it defensively if they want.
How exactly does it work?

Formula 1 has KERS (Kinetic Energy Regeneration System), which doesn't sound too dissimilar.

I think it basically injects extra fuel for like 5 seconds upping the horsepower. That makes it involve the team's fuel strategy, too.

I don't think Indy has near the problem with passing as F1 does. For one, half the races are on ovals, and because of that there's a lot wider range of skill on road courses.


This sounds counterproductive.  Adding more fuel would change the mixture and possibly cut your engine.  
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/autoracing/95164034.html This article will explain it better than I can.

BarkAtTheMoon

Quote from: "Alaric I"This sounds counterproductive.  Adding more fuel would change the mixture and possibly cut your engine.  
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/autoracing/95164034.html This article will explain it better than I can.

I know it uses more fuel when they push it. The announcers have mentioned that during races before.
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widdershins

I watched NASCAR only a single time in my life.  I made the comment to a big fan that I thought it was boring and the only thing that made it worth watching was the crashes (I had seen other races).  That was the day that one dude crashed and died, so I tend to just keep my mouth shut about the crashes now.  I always assumed that he thought me an ass after that, but it was at the sistere-in-law's house and we left before the crash and she's not seeing him anymore, so I don't know.  Really, I guess I don't care much.  He was nice enough, but I had no great urge to get to know him.
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SilentFutility

Quote from: "Alaric I"This sounds counterproductive.  Adding more fuel would change the mixture and possibly cut your engine.  
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/autoracing/95164034.html This article will explain it better than I can.
The flow of fuel to an automotive engine varies all the time. How do you think an engine accelerates without additional fuel? Adding fuel only alters the A/F ratio if the same amount of air is being sucked in, if you want to go faster, you suck in more air and add more fuel to compensate. The throttle (gas pedal if you're from the US) literally throttles the air intake, and when you put your foot all the way down you have wide-open throttle ie. you're not restricting the flow of air into the engine at all, the engine management system injects fuel to match the amount air being sucked in (measured by the MAP sensor and the lambda sensor/oxygen sensor in the exhaust, although not all racecars have both of these as fuel consumption is rarely an issue) at a given A/F ratio. As it is a race engine, it will be running slightly richer than stochiometric conditions (more fuel than is theoretically needed per cycle) anyway to ensure complete usage of oxygen in the inducted air and to minimise overheating.

If you want to speed the engine up, you do have to inject more fuel than if you were keeping it at a constant speed, hence why driving a road car erratically and accelerating a lot is terrible for fuel economy as opposed to cruising at a constant speed.

SilentFutility

Anyone see the absolutely MASSIVE crash on the final lap at Talladega yesterday?

The Skeletal Atheist

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Quote from: "SilentFutility"Anyone see the absolutely MASSIVE crash on the final lap at Talladega yesterday?
That was Daytona as well. I saw it. 29 people in the stands got injured because a tire flew through the fence. They fixed it and today's race went as planed. Jimmie Johnson won.
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Brian37

FUCK work was busy today and I rushed to my moms place only to catch the last 5 laps. Fucking pissed me off that Danica was in third till the last lap and dropped down to 8. But kudos in any case, how many guys did she beat?
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Alaric I

Quote from: "Brian37"FUCK work was busy today and I rushed to my moms place only to catch the last 5 laps. Fucking pissed me off that Danica was in third till the last lap and dropped down to 8. But kudos in any case, how many guys did she beat?

All but 7 and one chick.

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SilentFutility

Quote from: "The Skeletal Atheist"
Quote from: "SilentFutility"Anyone see the absolutely MASSIVE crash on the final lap at Talladega yesterday?
That was Daytona as well. I saw it. 29 people in the stands got injured because a tire flew through the fence. They fixed it and today's race went as planed. Jimmie Johnson won.
Oh. Well in any case, it was huge. 25 cars involved if I remember correctly.

Quote from: "stromboli"Fuck Daytona. This is the shit
http://www.aussieracingcars.com.au/
V8 supercars is pretty good.

I like BTCC but it is nowhere near as good as it was in the 90s, same goes for a lot of european motorsport though really.

AllPurposeAtheist

500 miles in a circle? How exciting.. damned, I missed it and all the nonsense that goes with it.. On the bright side I was reading a legal thriller that has on the back cover: 'By the time the whole circus ends up in the courtroom the hurling plot threatens to rip paper cuts into the readers hands! ~~San Francisco Chronicle'
Fuck! No paper cuts dammit! :evil:
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BarkAtTheMoon

Quote from: "Brian37"Fucking pissed me off that Danica was in third till the last lap and dropped down to 8.
That tends to happen in restrictor plate races. If your draft line slows up a bit, you can drop a bunch of places real quick and there's nothing you can really do about it. All you can do is be in a position to win on the last couple laps and she did that.

Quote from: "SilentFutility"
Quote from: "The Skeletal Atheist"
Quote from: "SilentFutility"Anyone see the absolutely MASSIVE crash on the final lap at Talladega yesterday?
That was Daytona as well. I saw it. 29 people in the stands got injured because a tire flew through the fence. They fixed it and today's race went as planed. Jimmie Johnson won.
Oh. Well in any case, it was huge. 25 cars involved if I remember correctly.
It was pretty much the entire field that was left in the race at that point because it started with the two lead cars. Tony Stewart won the race and IIRC even he crossed the finish line sliding sideways.
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SilentFutility

Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"500 miles in a circle? How exciting.. damned, I missed it and all the nonsense that goes with it..
I'm not the sport's biggest fan, but I guarantee you that if you were driving at 190mph and having contact with other cars you'd be pretty excited to say the least.