Quote from: Mr.Obvious on April 17, 2023, 02:48:15 PMI will admitt, one of my more recent guilty pleasures is the meme of ai versions of Obama, joe biden and trump playing videogames and making top tier lists.
A lot of trash entries, but some golden nuggets are genuinely hilarious. Hearing the three of them bicker and make jabs but with an undertone of camaradery as if they've been long time palls/college bros. I dunno why, but it makes me laugh.

The UNO one was pretty funny:

Time for the Butlerian Jihad?

So, A.I. is the new crypto...

...I'm a lot less impressed, now.

Quote from: the_antithesis on May 02, 2023, 11:57:28 AMSo, A.I. is the new crypto...

...I'm a lot less impressed, now.

Bobby says it should be called pseudo intelligence. Just as a computer can only generate pseudo random numbers in a universe full of truly random processes. There is always that big red power switch, LOL.

Pretty much every major film studio is using AI to generate stories during the writers' strike and then using the writers to rewrite those stories after the strike is over (because wholly AI-derived work can't get copyright and to save money on writers, the downside is that this obviously severely limits the types of stories writers can tell)

Quote from: Hydra009 on May 05, 2023, 07:17:39 AM... the downside is that this obviously severely limits the types of stories writers can tell)

At this time.

I really don't like what AI is doing to art. It started off as a fun little novelty, but AI generated art is apparently already affecting the bottom line for flesh-and-blood artists. Of course, AI probably won't take over completely. Some will still pay for quality art from an actual human. But it will probably be a similar situation to music. There are a lot of shows that save money by using generic music and sound effects. Why pay a musician to write and record new stuff for your baking cook-off show when you can use the same stock crap everybody else does? Live music in general is pretty rare, since we can just play music from a digital playlist. There's very little money to be made in music anymore, and soon there will be very little money in art or writing. It was hard enough to make money as an artist before AI stepped into the ring.

Afaik, live music isn't dying out because we can play the album.  It's been that way for decades.  But ticket prices have gone through the roof lately, and that might have serious long-term repercussions.

Quote from: Blackleaf on June 10, 2023, 02:33:30 AMI really don't like what AI is doing to art. It started off as a fun little novelty, but AI generated art is apparently already affecting the bottom line for flesh-and-blood artists. Of course, AI probably won't take over completely. Some will still pay for quality art from an actual human. But it will probably be a similar situation to music. There are a lot of shows that save money by using generic music and sound effects. Why pay a musician to write and record new stuff for your baking cook-off show when you can use the same stock crap everybody else does? Live music in general is pretty rare, since we can just play music from a digital playlist. There's very little money to be made in music anymore, and soon there will be very little money in art or writing. It was hard enough to make money as an artist before AI stepped into the ring.

This has been true with pretty much every technological advancement. Ultimately, AI research will continue because the pros outweigh the cons. There are, for example, YouTube channels whose owners wouldn't have been able to commission artwork in the first place, but can now use AI to generate a high quality backdrop for their video(s). Same with voice acting: creators who couldn't have afforded a voice actor anyway can now use a high quality AI voice. It's not that I lack sympathy for artists and actors. It sucks for them that potential clients are opting for the cheaper alternative. But ultimately, the majority of those using AI were never potential clients of these artists to begin with.

At what point does access to "art for the masses" just become a commodity that men at big, 3d-printed faux-mahogany desks trade amongst themselves?

Look at the craftsmanship of buildings from the 1900s, the mid-and-late-1850s. Look at courthouses, estates, even commoner's places. It puts us to shame what they could achieve with a chisel and a stone, a sawblade and basic understanding of assembling a sturdy house... and what they did on massive scale across the country to both exert control and just honestly flex how good America was doing... and it's only been in the last 100 years we lost all that. Ultimately it is greed - a struggling society cannot invest in it's artist caste, and an oligarchy that will choose the cheapest option available for their often garbage taste.

Everything is cheaper, but you get what you paid for.

We don't need cheaper, disposable shit - we need cheaper, reliable, long-lasting and ecologically friendly minded technology. We are behaving like a bunch of rats - or locust who consume without any regard everything in their path; do you think the AI will take that into account when it starts pondering its existence?

They killed creativity, and now we have to out-source it to AI - because that's how little we mean to the oligarchy.

Edit: Sorry, I've been a little pissed off at the people in charge lately, and a society based purely on exploitation with not a single care for conservation.

Quote from: Shiranu on June 29, 2023, 01:17:19 AMEverything is cheaper, but you get what you paid for.

Not necessarily. There are plenty of cases in history where the cheap replacement went on to become better than what it replaced. Guns were ballistically inferior to bows when they were introduced, but they became common because it was easier to train masses of men to use them. Now, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any modern firearm that isn't objectively superior to any bow ever made. Cars similarly started as the cheap alternative to horses, and now even the shittiest ratmobile out there can put the best bred horse to shame.

AI is the cheap alternative now, but there is no reason to think it's going to stay that way. I'm not sure if that's good or terrifying, but it is probably inevitable.

Guns are more effective than bows, but are they really better? That's Shiranu's point, I think. The larger view of what is better.

Quote from: Cassia on June 29, 2023, 08:23:48 AMGuns are more effective than bows, but are they really better? That's Shiranu's point, I think. The larger view of what is better.

As I said before, Browning M2 .50 cal. machine gun can kill at four miles. Bring your bit of stick, sinew, and feathers.

"Your status in Hell is determined by the number of people who precede you with your name on their lips."