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Started by Mike Cl, September 02, 2021, 10:29:57 AM

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Sheena

Quote from: SGOS on September 18, 2021, 10:48:45 AM
Sorry that was a bit of an abrasive remark to make to a new comer.  "No Hell" in the Bible has been noted before in the forum.  And I thank you for pointing that out, but that has little effect on Christianity, or what Christians believe.  And while the maggots of of Hell were rather hard for me to clean from the garbage can of my indoctrinated youth, it was hardly my biggest problem, which revolved around only one main issue; Is there a god?  Answer that question with actual evidence, and then we can guess about what he wants or does.

The (my) above post elaborates on what I mean by "no hell".
You guys/girls are very polite to the newbies. Very nice of you. Thank you sooo much.
About the existence of hell and those who claim it does. Notably the clergy. Ask yourself the following question:
Would they go on raping the little boys and girls around, stealing money and on and on if they rreally believed that hell existed, them being "christs on earth",  Pastors, "men of god" etc.?!?!?!
My personal answer is no. Then if they don't believe in its existence, then it must have been put in the book for nafarious reasons only.

As far as my 'personal relationship' with hell, I would say it never really existed from that stand point. I grew up in a Muslim household. So that household WAS my personal hell. So much so that I tried to kill myself at age 14, at first. So to the Muslim hell, and the others, my attitude was like "I am going there, ahead of you m fers. And you're welcome to follow me cowards." My athletics helped me a lot. I joined the military at age 21 I think. I did great, my bosses simply loved me. After I left, I came to the US, Converted to Protestantism, then to Catholicism. And now I consider myself more of Gnostic-Reincarnationist than anything else.
BTW, Ian Stevenson, a Canadian Psychiatrist Proved Reincarnation, USING THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD, documenting at least 2000 cases.
I have my own reincarnation experience that I will share some other time. But you will not catch me telling people "if you do not believe in my c#$p, you will go to hell!!". No chance in hell. Let people be themselves. Everybody can contribute their own way, using their own experiences.
"All of us are like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." -(Isaiah 64:6)-

Mr.Obvious

Really? He scientifically proved reincarnation?
Must've missed all the headlines it made and all the awards he received.

Congrats Ian. That's all the evidence i need.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Cassia

Breaks my heart to see how thousands of believers are drowning in Covid because they are afraid of hell. Indoctrinated since birth, they have no chance against the spew of preachers and priests, friends and family and of course the flood of facebook memes.

Sheena

#18
Quote from: Cassia on September 18, 2021, 11:14:51 AM
OK....Please explain...what does Matthew 25:41 mean then?

Matthew 25:41
“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:”

Really... can it be any clearer? Every christian church has it wrong? I can "sin" all I want to... worship satan, denounce jesus, be a homosexual, covet thy neighbor, blaspheme the holy spirit, piss in the holy water and still no hell, Yey that is good news ! Once again, we have the one true christian here !


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"one true Christian"?!?!?! First I take that as a compliment!!! but in fact, I am a former Muslim sweet heart. I  converted to main stream Christianity, then moved to Catholicsm, then now  I am more of Gnostic-Rincarnationist. Do I still respect Catholicism?!?! of course I do and Unapologetically at that!! Some priests are scumbags. Let's call spade spade. But the tradition, the precepts, the arts and sculptures, The bible as marred in mud as it is. The Amazing Cathedrals and Basilicas, the literature, the Saints, the incredible paintings, the music, The fellowship with other Catholics, etc. I love it. And that's not "cherry picking".
If for example a guy works 16 hours a day, 7 days a week on one hand, but likes alcohol a little too much on the other, am I supposed to hate him for all he's got so you won't be threatened enough to accuse me of "cherry picking"?!?!?!  I don't think so. I'd STILL appreciate his strength and committment in spite of how much he drinks. None are perfect on this plane. NONE.

And ask that same question to jesus himself in conjunction to the Reincarnation verses I have provided, or the ones who quoted him as saying it all Knowing full well that both cannot be true, as either one or the other stands, and In my opinion The reincarnation ones do as they clearly supersede the others. Especially since the contemporary Ian Stevensen Proved reincarnation using the scientific method, Him being a scientist! There are 1000's and 1000's  of documented people who have recounted experiences of them having lived other lives b4 this one. It's very common. They went back to neighborhoods where they previously lived and found evidence that backs up their claims that they have lived there some time in the past. So go ahead and continue to be SECRETLY terrorized of going to hell .... Have fun....
"All of us are like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." -(Isaiah 64:6)-

Sheena

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on September 18, 2021, 11:34:38 AM
Really? He scientifically proved reincarnation?
Must've missed all the headlines it made and all the awards he received.

Congrats Ian. That's all the evidence i need.
you need the "headlines"?!? and "awards"?!?! in the age of internet?!?!? you need to get out more. Do you know how to type?!?!?
Furthermore, for a group of people who jumps at every occasion to accuse those who have  a different belief system than them of "cherry picking". Boy do you cherry pickðŸ'ðŸ'ðŸ'ðŸ'!!! Congrats. The so called "scientific" community completely ignored his work because it does not fit their dogmatic agenda. Just like  what is happening now. Anybody who dares to say there is another solution than the bioweapon falsely termed as "covid vaccine", they accuse them of  spreading "misinformation" and come after them with mechetes.

...Some credibility...
"All of us are like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." -(Isaiah 64:6)-

Sheena

#20
Quote from: Cassia on September 18, 2021, 12:12:09 PM
Breaks my heart to see how thousands of believers are drowning in Covid because they are afraid of hell. Indoctrinated since birth, they have no chance against the spew of preachers and priests, friends and family and of course the flood of facebook memes.

You mean they are drowning in all kinds of grave medical problems and death as result of the bioweapon they were told is a vaccine?!?!?  who said that to them?  One of the scientific community arms known as Big Pharma, CDC, FDA, etc. Hello....

You know what I would suggest?  take care of your loads and let them worry about theirs. I am personally not taking  any death shot. I don't have phakbook account either. ...You're dealing with a different breed here, sweety.
"All of us are like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." -(Isaiah 64:6)-

Mr.Obvious

Quote from: Sheena on September 19, 2021, 06:33:59 PM
you need the "headlines"?!? and "awards"?!?! in the age of internet?!?!? you need to get out more. Do you know how to type?!?!?
Furthermore, for a group of people who jumps at every occasion to accuse those who have  a different belief system than them of "cherry picking". Boy do you cherry pickðŸ'ðŸ'ðŸ'ðŸ'!!! Congrats. The so called "scientific" community completely ignored his work because it does not fit their dogmatic agenda. Just like  what is happening now. Anybody who dares to say there is another solution than the bioweapon falsely termed as "covid vaccine", they accuse them of  spreading "misinformation" and come after them with mechetes.

...Some credibility...

You are an antivaxer?
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Cassia

#22
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on September 19, 2021, 07:12:10 PM
You are an antivaxer?
And a cherry picker. Can't answer a simple question. Maybe come back as a cow after 20 days on a vent. I'd stay away from Texas. BBQ.

Hydra009

Quote from: Sheena on September 19, 2021, 06:50:34 PM
You mean they are drowning in all kinds of grave medical problems and death as result of the bioweapon they were told is a vaccine?!?!?
You know there are dozens of different covid vaccines, right?  (Quite the coordinated effort by countries that normally can't agree on anything, sounds legit lol)

As for the assertion that they cause grave medical problems, that's a pretty serious accusation.  I'd love to see a peer-reviewed source for that.  And no, Nikki Minaj doesn't count as a credible source.

Mike Cl

Quote from: Sheena on September 19, 2021, 06:33:59 PM
The so called "scientific" community completely ignored his work because it does not fit their dogmatic agenda. Just like  what is happening now. Anybody who dares to say there is another solution than the bioweapon falsely termed as "covid vaccine", they accuse them of  spreading "misinformation" and come after them with mechetes.

...Some credibility...

This is the 'dogma' scientists use: " The Scientific Process. ï,§ The scientific process is a method for experimentation that is used to explore observations , answer questions, and solve problems. Scientists use the scientific process to search for cause and effect relationships in nature. "  There is no 'agenda'.  What is searched for and tested for are facts.  Facts that can be verified. 

This is dogma: "1a : something held as an established opinion especially : a definite authoritative tenet. b : a code of such tenets pedagogical dogma. c : a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds."  This is your bailiwick--a lack of adequate grounds to think something and no way or desire to test your 'beliefs'.  The religious (that's you, I guess) are dogmatic--scientists are not.  And if a scientist become dogmatic, his/her peers soon call him/her on his dogmatic pronouncements.  Nothing is written in stone for a scientist and everything is written in stone for the religious.

So, can you enlighten me about the falseness of the covid vaccine?  No?--didn't think so, since your universe is driven by dogma, beliefs and faith, which are all ignorant of and have no desire to find out facts.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Sheena

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on September 19, 2021, 07:12:10 PM
You are an antivaxer?

I am anti-death. And I take  it based on the above, you are pro-death. I vaxxed throughout my life. Based on what I read and I read in a day more than you do in a week or more.  The covid garbage is a gene therapy, a bioweapon, but you are more than welcome to take the first shot, the second, the third and not mention the boosters. They'll do you some reaaal good. Good luck.
"All of us are like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." -(Isaiah 64:6)-

Mike Cl

Quote from: Sheena on September 20, 2021, 06:46:55 PM
I am anti-death. And I take  it based on the above, you are pro-death. I vaxxed throughout my life. Based on what I read and I read in a day more than you do in a week or more.  The covid garbage is a gene therapy, a bioweapon, but you are more than welcome to take the first shot, the second, the third and not mention the boosters. They'll do you some reaaal good. Good luck.
Being anti-death or pro-death is meaningless.  We will all die--period.  I will agree with you that covid is garbage, especially since people like you are bringing death (kind of ironic, isn't it??) to thousands who would not be dead now.  But then, you will go to heaven and live forever--right?  If that is so, why are you hanging around this struggling planet?  Can you show me some scientific research to demonstrate that the covid vaccine is 'garbage'?  Oh, how silly of me--of course you can't for people like you science does not exist; just the bible and all the info (the real garbage) the religious hierarchy tells you.  Besides, why worry about unimportant stuff like this--it's all just god's plan.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Mr.Obvious

Quote from: Sheena on September 20, 2021, 06:46:55 PM
I am anti-death. And I take  it based on the above, you are pro-death. I vaxxed throughout my life. Based on what I read and I read in a day more than you do in a week or more.  The covid garbage is a gene therapy, a bioweapon, but you are more than welcome to take the first shot, the second, the third and not mention the boosters. They'll do you some reaaal good. Good luck.

You've probably caused more death and suffering in the last year and a half than you ever did in the military though.

See, I can make assumptions about my conversational partner too. Whoopty fucking doo.

Though i do stand by it, actually. People like you or my gf's uncle who try their damnedest to spread their ignorance and misinformation to the larger public and who convince people into not getting the shot or get them to doubt it and slow the progress down, have blood on their hands.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Sheena

Quote from: Cassia on September 19, 2021, 07:51:28 PM
And a cherry picker. Can't answer a simple question. Maybe come back as a cow after 20 days on a vent. I'd stay away from Texas. BBQ.

You have no answer to the following post, your head is as empty as an industrial cooking pot, so you cowardly resort to cheap insults and ad hominem in compensation hoping I won't notice. As far the doctrine of reincarnation that Dr Ian Stevenson PROVED using the scientific method, how about you do some BASIC research b4 you open your useless trap?! And you accuse me of not answering your question?!?!? Shame on you. Like I said, continue to SECRETLY be terrorized of hell that does not exist. Have fun and you're on ignore. What did Martin Luther king say about consciencious stupidity?!?!?!

...something along the lines of :
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
And here's the post you have nothin to say to but utter bs if at all:


Quote from: Sheena on September 18, 2021, 10:47:21 AM
Malachi 4:5-6 : [The last book of the OT]

Matthew 17:10-13: [The first book of the NT]Those are the boldest passages in the bible that document the doctrine of reincarnation. There are dozens more explicit hints here and there in the old as well as the new testament.

The doctrine of reincarnation supersedes the garbage they call hell. Jesus  said no such thing as far as hell goes. They misquoted him to authicate the scam/lie. In fact he was known to have taught Reincarnation. They sanitized the bible, but they were stupid enough not to do a thourough cleaning. This is how reliable these  scumbags are.

Furthermore, The OT portrays Elijah as this Mega prophet. Who is obviously destined for "heaven" after he dies, right? Yet the NT claims him to have come to earth, as John the Baptist, to do what Jesus have been quoted saying about him,  but to only end up being vulgarly and cheaply beheaded so a slut could have his decapitated head to give to her mother as a trophee! Now is that what they mean by "heaven"?!?!?!?!? ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE and not to me. And if that is heaven, what is hell then?!?!?!

...
speaking of "cows", I'd say what a hopeless cow you proved to be. Byye :bigbye:
"All of us are like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." -(Isaiah 64:6)-

Sheena

#29
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 20, 2021, 02:13:11 PM
You know there are dozens of different covid vaccines, right?  (Quite the coordinated effort by countries that normally can't agree on anything, sounds legit lol)

As for the assertion that they cause grave medical problems, that's a pretty serious accusation.  I'd love to see a peer-reviewed source for that.  And no, Nikki Minaj doesn't count as a credible source.

I don't accuse lady, Go to the VAERS and see for yourself, it has only less that 10% of the so called "vaccine" casualties. That means the other 90% is missing this bs shot being experimental.  ....Oooor let me think  :headscratch: , You don't know what VAERS is?!?!? Mr. Google can help you.
The Tramp aka Trump originally commissioned 6 Big Pharma Thugs to make that garbage by paying them  6 billion dollars. So I don't live in the world. I live in the USA. And they are not "vaccines". Who the phak is nikki caboosh? You people need to get out more.

I don't have a twitter account either :rrotflmao: :rockout: :high5:.
"All of us are like one who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away." -(Isaiah 64:6)-