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Started by viocjit, July 05, 2019, 03:41:18 PM

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viocjit

Quote from: Baruch on August 02, 2019, 12:22:46 PM
People disagree with me, but modern politics and bureaucracy were invented in France.

I think you're certainly right.

aileron

Quote from: Unbeliever on July 05, 2019, 08:17:15 PM
I recall a guy who was looking for the least painful way of committing suicide, and came across a hypobaric chamber, where he did an experiment. He had someone else in there with him while they slowly decreased the oxygen level, and he became very giddy and unable to understand what to do to stop the process. The fellow in the chamber with him (who was wearing an oxygen mask) had to pull the lever for him.

He said afterward that he felt great the whole time he was in danger of death, and was having a very good time. He thought it would be among the best ways to commit suicide. Most of us don't have access to such a chamber, though, so we'd have to use an alternate method of achieving apoxia, the lack of oxygen.

This seems right to me. I've been in a hypobaric chamber a few times, once in flight school and then refresher training. The point is to learn the symptoms of hypoxia and grab the O2 mask (and importantly - turn it on, which I failed to do the first time) before you lose your wits or motor control.

The time I failed to turn on the O2 I grayed out until an instructor noticed and flipped the switch on my supply. I never felt the slightest pain or discomfort... That's the whole point of military aircrew needing this training to recognize the symptoms. No one else experienced pain, and maybe a quarter to a third showed signs of giddiness.
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aileron

Quote from: aitm on July 05, 2019, 08:01:45 PM
self "euthanasia" is extremely easy and extremely available... and not messy at all. People forget about carbon monoxide, very available and easy and comfortable.....Helium...available at party stores near you.....and not messy....unless you quit too early...then yer a veggie

One of my acquaintances, true to the researcher he was in life, researched it and opted for the helium helmet.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room! -- President Merkin Muffley

My mom was a religious fundamentalist. Plus, she didn't have a mouth. It's an unusual combination. -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on August 02, 2019, 03:48:35 AM
Just like I feel about Bill, Hillary and the rest of the Dem traitors.

Why is it that I refer to wishing Trump to be accountable to law and you refer to "Dem traitors"?  First, I say "Republicans" and you say "Dems", a puerile insult.  Unless you are engaging in the Brooklynese "Dese, Dem, Does".

Second, I don't consider Republicans "traitors".  I assume they usually believe what they say (there are always some game-players on both sides).  I disagree with most of them whole-heartedly, but I don't think of them as "traitors".  Yet Republicans consider members of the Democratic (try to even say that out loud to yourself) Party in all sorts of non-patriotic terms.  I love the US.

Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on August 05, 2019, 12:12:19 PM
 

Why is it that I refer to wishing Trump to be accountable to law and you refer to "Dem traitors"?  First, I say "Republicans" and you say "Dems", a puerile insult.  Unless you are engaging in the Brooklynese "Dese, Dem, Does".

Second, I don't consider Republicans "traitors".  I assume they usually believe what they say (there are always some game-players on both sides).  I disagree with most of them whole-heartedly, but I don't think of them as "traitors".  Yet Republicans consider members of the Democratic (try to even say that out loud to yourself) Party in all sorts of non-patriotic terms.  I love the US.

Americans are criminals but don't agree on which crimes are OK.  Dems are the supporters of every 5th column since the American Revolution (which was Dems, Repubs were Tories)  The makes the Dems ... traitors.  The Republican are not a 5th column, they are the Establishment (post Revolution Tories).  They may be warmongers and plutocrats, but that is normal.  As I said before, Leftists seek to destroy their own country.  Rightists seek to destroy other people's countries.  I hate both.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on August 05, 2019, 07:23:32 PM
Americans are criminals but don't agree on which crimes are OK.  Dems are the supporters of every 5th column since the American Revolution (which was Dems, Repubs were Tories)  The makes the Dems ... traitors.  The Republican are not a 5th column, they are the Establishment (post Revolution Tories).  They may be warmongers and plutocrats, but that is normal.  As I said before, Leftists seek to destroy their own country.  Rightists seek to destroy other people's countries.  I hate both.

I stay up all night and the next day for THIS kind of nonsense?  I don't think so...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on August 08, 2019, 01:41:18 PM
I stay up all night and the next day for THIS kind of nonsense?  I don't think so...

So tell us how wonderful it is when Americans lie, defraud and rob the whole world.  And that is the Best thing we do.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.