Just Exactly What did Jesus Save Us From The Last Time He Came Round Here?

Started by 1liesalot, April 10, 2015, 04:20:24 PM

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1liesalot

Quote from: Mike Cl on April 10, 2015, 09:17:38 PM
This is from the Kenyon Ed. Dept.:
"Background

The importance of bloodshed in sacrifice did not originate in the Christian tradition. Sacrifice was a major part of the ancient world. The ideas of sacrifice as an atonemnt found in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) form much of the basis for Christian conceptions of sacrifice. In the Old Testament, the God-given means of expiation was the sacrificial blood (Young 27-28). The idea of a dying God whose sacrifice results in eternal life for followers is also found in Roman mystery religions.


In its early years, Christianity struggled to distinguish itself from Judaism and mystery cults as the ‘correct’ religion. Although they took many ideas from these traditions, Christians developed a unique sacrificial tradition. The idea of sacrifice as a spiritual, self-directed act instead of the offering of animals was one such distinction. The body itself, with its links to the body of Christ, remained very important to Christians. Their forms of sacrifice focused on the bodies of its members as a living sacrifice.

The Sacrifice of Jesus
Christians understand Christ's death on the cross to be a necessary atonement for the sins of humankind. In the first generation after Jesus' death, the apostle Paul wrote: For I delivered to you first of all, what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, and that he was buried, and that he rose again on the third day. . . I Corinthians 15: 3-4. Christ 's death was the final sacrifice, which superseded the need for animal sacrifices offered in the past by the high priest: Having therefore a great high priest who has passed into the heavens, Jesus Son of God. . . because he continues forever, he has an everlasting priesthood. (Hebrews 4: 14, 7:24). Christ was both priest and sacrificial victim.

Christianity often refers to Jesus’ Passion as the "ultimate" or "perfect" sacrifice. The Christian church believed that Christ’s death occurred as the ultimate expiation of sins and that it annulled the need for sacrifices named by the Old Testament. Christians turned from the notion of animal sacrifice to self-sacrifice. The methods by which Christians presented themselves as purified of sin, then, could be understood as a form of sacrifice. Baptism, the Lords Supper (the Eucharist), and martyrdom are major traditions of Christian sacrifice. All of these acts are necessary for redemption. Using Jesus as an exemplar, Christians believed that one could only gain redemption through sacrifice. These beliefs and traditions illustrate the importance of blood in Christian spiritual cleansing."

As usual, the christian religion took an ancient practice and put their own spin on it--and this is what they came up with.

It drives me crazy that these idiots can't be bothered to know enough about the very  deity they are trying to shove down our throats to realize the biblical God is a psychopath. Nor do they realise there are dragons in the bible and Goddamn unicorns and talking serpents. It's Harry Potter on crack.

Mike Cl

Quote from: 1liesalot on April 26, 2015, 09:20:05 PM
It drives me crazy that these idiots can't be bothered to know enough about the very  deity they are trying to shove down our throats to realize the biblical God is a psychopath. Nor do they realise there are dragons in the bible and Goddamn unicorns and talking serpents. It's Harry Potter on crack.
Amen!
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I liken it to the CEO of a huge company, who makes cryptic his 'rules' and wonders why many of his employees can't follow them. And only those who manage to figure out his cryptic riddle-like rules will get a promotion. For the rest, they will be fired. Then, the CEO's son comes in and says...I will take the blame dad.

But, this comes with a catch. The catch being that all of the employees have to bow down to the CEO's son, in gratitude for saving their jobs. And if they cease to do this, they risk losing their job again.

That's one fucked up family business, wouldn't ya say? ^_^
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Quote from: Deidre32 on April 26, 2015, 11:36:07 PM
I liken it to the CEO of a huge company, who makes cryptic his 'rules' and wonders why many of his employees can't follow them. And only those who manage to figure out his cryptic riddle-like rules will get a promotion. For the rest, they will be fired. Then, the CEO's son comes in and says...I will take the blame dad.

But, this comes with a catch. The catch being that all of the employees have to bow down to the CEO's son, in gratitude for saving their jobs. And if they cease to do this, they risk losing their job again.

That's one fucked up family business, wouldn't ya say? ^_^
Good analogy!
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