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DEFLATEGATE ?????????????

Started by stromboli, January 25, 2015, 07:50:48 PM

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stromboli

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/25/bill-nye-belichick_n_6542312.html

Holy shitsky and boy howdy, boys and girls. I can approach this because my team the Packers (sob) are now in the dust of playoff ruin. But when the SCIENCE OF DEFLATED FOOTBALLS COMES INTO THE PICTURE, I think we need to scrutinize this puppy. When NOT ONE, BUT SEVERAL footballs are found to be under inflated the vigilantes got to come out, ese. Excuses? Faulty pressure gauge? I think not! Tampering? Gasp! NOOOOOOO.......!

Bill Nye is apparently a Seahawks fan, so this article is tainted. but nonetheless, a cloud now hangs over the Patriots and their stellar, never known to cheat (did I say that?) coach, the honorable (cough) Bill Belichik. what can I say? Let the vigilantes ride......... :naughty:

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#1
Ok, I've heard a bit about this on the radio. As a non-sports watcher, I have to admit I'm not sure why this matters. Its seems obvious the loss pressure was intentional, given the 7 of 9 balls that had about the same pressure. What I don't get is where anyone would gain from this. Both sides use the same ball, right? If there's some disadvantage, wouldn't it work both ways?

In any case Stromboli, seriously, its a game. That level of punctuation and capital letters leads me to think you're taking it way too seriously.
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stromboli

No, I'm just joking because at least one person on the forum is a Patriots fan.

aitm

Quote from: stromboli on January 25, 2015, 09:14:09 PM
No, I'm just joking because at least one person on the forum is a Patriots fan.

Fine….
1) Pats QB played FAR better in the second half with the "corrected" balls than in the first half with the "improper" footballs..so…what advantage was there? Did Brady cheat to give the Colts a "sporting" chance?
2) Numerous players, coaches and sportsreporters both past and present actually laughed that this was an issue.
3) Numerous players both past and present actually claim this is an advantage, (though one has to admit the evidence proves otherwise)
4)Numerous players, coaches, players and sportswriters claim this is only newsworthy simply because it is the Pats, this seems somewhat important that those clamoring for the heads of the organization also freely admit that if this was someone else, this would not be an issue.
5) Yes I am pissed off about it and the implications if indeed anyone from the Pats organization did indeed tamper with the footballs after they were approved, however, I admit a certain fondness for the use of science of gas if it turns out they used a gas other than natural "air" (which is not specifically  demanded by the rules) that may have more reaction to temperature than normal "air".
6)The fine for f-ing with the ball after the officials certify it is 25 grand, the fine for grabbing your crotch during a game is 20 grand. So the NFL has established the penalty for the action. It is 5 grand more than grabbing your crotch. Must be an important rule that really affects the game eh?
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stromboli

Lol, thank you for clearing all that up there, big dog.  :biggrin:

hrdlr110

The primary advantage is gained from the grip of both throwing, and catching a softer ball. On a cold day, this advantage is multiplied. Not sure by what to multiply, only that it is a greater advantage on a cold day than a warm one. From the primary advantage we move on to the secondary advantage of momentum. Momentum gained from throwing and completing passes early on with softer balls. Luck didn't throw the ball nearly as well, and therefore wasn't able to establish momentum, much needed momentum required to win an NFL playoff game. Those that say the game wasn't close enough for deflate gate to be an issue, I produce momentum as the greatest advantage gained from throwing and catching deflated balls.
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hrdlr110

I've caught balls from stronger throwing arms than Brady, a softer ball is so much easier to catch.
Q for theists; how can there be freewill and miracles? And, how can prayer exist in an environment as regimented as "gods plan"?

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stromboli

Wow. Strong arms and soft balls. I didn't realize how gay this thread was.  :eek:

Jmpty

???  ??

GrinningYMIR

Quote from: hrdlr110 on January 26, 2015, 04:44:21 AM
I've caught balls from stronger throwing arms than Brady, a softer ball is so much easier to catch.

I guess there's a fine line between overly Manly and gay
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hrdlr110

Q for theists; how can there be freewill and miracles? And, how can prayer exist in an environment as regimented as "gods plan"?

"I'm a polyatheist, there are many gods I don't believe in." - Dan Fouts

Desdinova

First of all I'm not a Patriots fan.  I'm a Vikings fan.  No jokes please.  I would bet that every team plays games with the inflation of the footballs.  The Pats just happened to get caught because no one can stand Brady and Belicheck.  It also doesn't help that they got busted for Spygate a few years back.  Fine them, take a draft pick away or whatever.  Just move on.
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Jason78

Don't they have officials on the field to prevent this kind of tampering?


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