Another nail in "free will"

Started by aitm, August 01, 2014, 01:39:40 PM

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aitm

Somma bitch man. This pretty much puts a fucking to free will AND smacks intelligent design right in the mouth as well.



http://news.msn.com/science-technology/us-scientists-take-step-toward-blood-test-for-suicide
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Desdinova

"How long will we be
Waiting, for your modern messiah
To take away all the hatred
That darkens the light in your eye"
  -Disturbed, Liberate

stromboli

Quote from: aitm on August 01, 2014, 01:39:40 PM
Somma bitch man. This pretty much puts a fucking to free will AND smacks intelligent design right in the mouth as well.



http://news.msn.com/science-technology/us-scientists-take-step-toward-blood-test-for-suicide


Lol. So some of us are wired to stick a gun in our mouth, or whatever. It was Jesus!

Solitary

And some of us are wired to shove a cross down our throats. :wall: :hang:  :winkle: Solitary
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

stromboli

This is interesting because it changes some situations that I can think of.

If a person is supposedly driven to suicide, did they have the previous biological design to do so?

If a person is hounded on facebook or at school, if the person committing suicide can be shown to have this biological predisposition, does it not serve as a defense for the perpetrators?

How much of a predisposition to suicide does a gay man have who is rejected by his family?

I'm thinking this will open up a very interesting list of moral and legal implications.



aitm

I agree Strom, if this turns out to be truthful, or provable, what will stop THE most powerful industry in the world from demanding genetic testing before you can buy some types of insurance? Uninsurable? Marriage? Not so fast kid, lets check your genetics to see if you may end up killing the grandkids and yourself first. Military? Hell yes, there is a fox-hole eh?
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

stromboli

Quote from: aitm on August 02, 2014, 01:03:53 PM
I agree Strom, if this turns out to be truthful, or provable, what will stop THE most powerful industry in the world from demanding genetic testing before you can buy some types of insurance? Uninsurable? Marriage? Not so fast kid, lets check your genetics to see if you may end up killing the grandkids and yourself first. Military? Hell yes, there is a fox-hole eh?

No shit. the more you think about it, the more implications you discover. And take it to another level; indicators seen through testing other behavioral indicators that could pretty much determine how any person would approach any particular situation.

aitm

There has already been enough evidence to suggest that the human mind is a genetic frenzy of pre-determination by proxy (might be the wrong word). Being pre-disposed to certain foods or colors, diseases and now mental disposition. When the day comes the genetic manipulation can be done in utero ( if necessary) to fix a problem, will the "beauty" of human diversity be replaced by simply better humans, humans that act more like each other and most likely will eventually start to resemble each other as well? Perhaps this itself will render robotics obsolete as humanity becomes more the robot....eh?
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Solitary

Quote from: stromboli on August 02, 2014, 10:58:20 AM
This is interesting because it changes some situations that I can think of.

If a person is supposedly driven to suicide, did they have the previous biological design to do so?

If a person is hounded on facebook or at school, if the person committing suicide can be shown to have this biological predisposition, does it not serve as a defense for the perpetrators?

How much of a predisposition to suicide does a gay man have who is rejected by his family?

I'm thinking this will open up a very interesting list of moral and legal implications.



Yes, it would have legal implications, but that doesn't change the fact that if a person breaks the law and harms someone they are still responsible for the deed. Apparently tigers don't have freewill, and when they kill they are still responsible, and killed to protect society. Solitary
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

aitm

Quote from: Solitary on August 03, 2014, 12:36:39 PM
and when they kill they are still responsible, and killed to protect society. Solitary
yeah, we don't here most clamoring for "life in prison" eh?
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

stromboli

I hope they find the gene or hormone or whatever causes perkiness, or what I call "Rachael Ray Syndrome." That needs to be ripped out of our physiology forever.

aitm

find me the gene that makes people want to watch shit like Jerry Springer or any of the so called "reality" tv shows. They need eliminating.  I can handle Ray perkiness.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust