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Maria Valtorta's God-Authored Works:

• The Poem of the Man-God: Vols. 1-5 (the Life of Christ) also known as The Gospel as Revealed to Me: Vols. 1-10

• The Notebooks: 1943

• The Notebooks: 1944

• The Notebooks: 1945-1950

• The Little Notebooks

(I'm working on uploading this online for free)

• The Book of Azariah

• Lessons on the Epistle of St. Paul to the Romans

Also, I highly recommend reading A Summa and Encyclopedia to Maria Valtorta's Extraordinary Work, especially the chapters on proof in support of the Works above having a supernatural origin. You should also read these testimonies by people who have read Maria Valtorta's God-Authored writings.

Quote from: Soul on October 22, 2025, 01:04:28 PMAnd, you didn't address any of it.

As we know, there's truths and falsehoods. But everything still comes down to faith and free will, because, for example, there's people who reject the truth of x, despite the authentic evidence and proof for it, and they rationalize, and are unreceptive, because using their free will, they'd rather believe something else.

If a person only seeks validation for what they'd rather believe, instead of the truth, and is willfuly unreceptive to what is said to be the truth, then what good would authentic proof in support of the truth do them?

Conversely, you do not seem to be receptive to any of the major Islamic mystics for some reason. Any religious claim that you can make; a Muslim can as well. Truly, I say unto you, open your heart to Mohammad, He is The Light and The Way. Most of the time your specific belief system has everything to do with childhood indoctrination or perhaps just that Christianity is predominant religion of your region.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. As a former engineer I saw scientific claims working every day in the lab. I see jets flying overhead and right now electrical current is providing the force to spin my clothes dryer. I'm typing on a computer that is the culmination of dozens of important scientific theories that have proven predictive power.

If you fall seriously injured, you will not be asking the ambulance to take you to a church where the power of prayer will heal you. You will never see corpses rising from the ground or see prayer moving mountains as claimed in the perfect scriptures. People in ultra-religious Mississippi or Iran where praying abounds don't seem to be nearly as fulfilled as the mostly atheist regions of Scandinavia. Why is that?

What I like about you is that at least you went for validation beyond the typical and you are willing to reject at least some church dogma.

The best outcome for me would be complete scientific proof of some sort of origin that didn't require twisted immoral logic to explain our brutal natural world. If a sentient being is responsible, there would some real explaining to do way beyond the feeble allegorical attempts of some iron-age tribes

Nostalgia is a helluva drug.  Also, it's legitimately good and unfortunately still very topical.

"But everything still comes down to faith and free will, " Bullshit.

Quote from: Cassia on October 22, 2025, 11:13:28 AMYeah, I was waiting for all the nonsense. She worked really hard on all that apologetics.

And, you didn't address any of it.

Quote from: Cassia on October 22, 2025, 11:13:28 AMActually, I do use google. It's amazing this satanic google conspiracy, because the scientific consensus is that there is overwhelming of proof for Maria's visions and Jesus and god and dead people rising up and faith healing. It's all there, we just need to believe hard enough. What is wrong with me? Satan, go away! It's all your fault.

As we know, there's truths and falsehoods. But everything still comes down to faith and free will, because, for example, there's people who reject the truth of x, despite the authentic evidence and proof for it, and they rationalize, and are unreceptive, because using their free will, they'd rather believe something else.

If a person only seeks validation for what they'd rather believe, instead of the truth, and is willfuly unreceptive to what is said to be the truth, then what good would authentic proof in support of the truth do them?

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 22, 2025, 11:23:54 AMI sat with a neighbor kid once, in the hay loft of an abandoned barn. He asked me to keep him company "for a little while". Then he cut his wrists. We waited. His last words were "Don't let Father Murphy fuck my corpse." I burned the barn after he died. Kept my promise, Murphy didn't get an more little boy booty from him.

You would think Jesus, through Maria and her angel might have warned 1030s Italy not to join in on the evil, losing, fascist team. Over 450,000 Italians went home to Jesus before their time, including 17% of all Italian god's chosen Jews, who were deported to death camps starting in September 1943. 

I would love to see Soul prove that Mohammad was not the true profit or even better discredit Key Islamic mystics including Rumi, Ibn 'Arabi, Al-Ghazali, and Shams of Tabriz, who are celebrated for their poetry, philosophical contributions, and extensive writings on mystical thought and divine love. Then maybe she would actually learn something valuable.

I do feel sorry that Soul will be going to Islamic hell. Poor thing.

I sat with a neighbor kid once, in the hay loft of an abandoned barn. He asked me to keep him company "for a little while". Then he cut his wrists. We waited. His last words were "Don't let Father Murphy fuck my corpse." I burned the barn after he died. Kept my promise, Murphy didn't get an more little boy booty from him.

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on October 22, 2025, 07:25:30 AMGee, our very own red letter Babble.

Yeah, I was waiting for all the nonsense. She worked really hard on all that apologetics. People whose "science books" talk about unicorns and dragons, or a person survived in the belly of a whale and then a world-wide flood killed everyone and everything but one incestuous family. People who fake stigmata with never-healing acid and who protect pedophiles.

They even award themselves fake degrees from fake universities that try to mirror real academia. However, if she thinks any of this utter nonsense will ever sway a thinking person for a minute, she is badly mistaken.

Somehow, we can validate thousands of ancient artifacts way older than the 1st century but with "the shroud" we have all sorts of issues. Cultists have been selling books and other merch to other cultists for decades. I think I need to order some "holy water". So stupid.

Actually, I do use google. It's amazing this satanic google conspiracy, because the scientific consensus is that there is overwhelming of proof for Maria's visions and Jesus and god and dead people rising up and faith healing. It's all there, we just need to believe hard enough. What is wrong with me? Satan, go away! It's all your fault.