Cultural Marxism is the process of deconstructing western civilizations.
Islam's part is to destabilize societies even further. (Wars, Mass immigration).
However, those engaged in the process are ignorant of the facts that Islam will not share power, they will not be able to control them, and ultimately Islam will overwhelm them completely.
Simply because of willful ignorance of Islam and it's history.
The New World Order will not work out as they have planned.
The millennials are in for a nasty surprise. And an even nastier future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYu6qhd88_M
This also explains why Christianity is so hated on this forum, while Islam not so much.
So this video of 7 mins 36 secs is the rendering of 'Cultural Marxism' by the white right wing in British-American culture, is it? Like every other one this video is about how feminism, racial, religious and ethnic groups are a great threat to the Western World and as expressed openly in the vid ESPECIALLY the White Heterosexual Male.
The main idea which is being played over and over again that Threat to Western Culture = Threat To White Heterosexual Male and the Right Wing. :lol: The video is telling how anything not right, white, male or christian is a big potential threat to Western Culture and that it is defined as Cultural Marxism based on Critical Theory. Oh this is so good.
Sincerely, I have never seen anything this dumb in my entire life. It's so dumb, it just gave me great HOPE that if this is a good example showing the general understanding of the general opinion of the white right wing; their world vision, they'll NEVER EVER 'win'. Please continue to spread this video, play it over and over again. It's a very good propaganda against your position for anyone who actually has an idea what is Marxism, Cultural Marxism and Critical Theory. Not to mention human reality and real life.
Simple, if you are too stupid, you'll cease to exist at some point. I am not holding my breath, but yeah things like this make me realise life is not that dark or complicated sometimes. :lol:
Well thanks, pr. Good morning to you too.
By the way, apparently this is the definition of Cultural Marxism in pop culture US:
QuoteThe gradual process of destroying all traditions, languages, religions, individuality, government, family, law and order in order to re-assemble society in the future as a communist utopia. This utopia will have no notion of gender, traditions, morality, god or even family or the state. The Philosophy was proven not to Work already by Vladimir Lenin as he tried in vein to control and subjugate the people. He admitted before he died that capitalism was the only true system in which people understand how to live with each other.... Lenin knew that there were a few western Idiots who kept spreading the communist ideas long after Lenin gave up.... he called these people useful idiots as they had more emotion than brains and could be used to subvert the western states for a military takeover in the future as the citizens would already be perverted and sick and weak from poisonous ideas, decadent lusts and mindless entertainment.
:rotflmao:
I don't know why Pr126 keeps posting stuff from the US.
Here is a good article on why Habermas isn't a good Marxist (too bourgeoise). Too much culture, not enough Marxism.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2642058
IDK, seemed pretty straightforward. Still, only scraped the surface of what Cultural Marxism is.
How you get that vid to tie into your hate for Islam is strange.
The short answer to why we (general we) are more vocal against Christianity than Islam is, I think, merely because we are raised and saturated in it in our daily lives. I only encounter Islam on the media and Internet. There is almost no interaction with Muslims on my part, where I live.
The biggest problem I have with Cultural Marxists (aka SJWs) is that they try to silence opposing views, even to the point of violence. There is no discussion, just name calling, invoking the "trigger warning", blocking the general public from rallies, attempting to get opponents fired, you name it. Just a week or so ago here if Phoenix they blocked the highway, preventing everyone including emergency vehicles, from passing. Crazy bastards.
Quote from: Jack89 on March 29, 2016, 06:28:18 PM
The biggest problem I have with Cultural Marxists (aka SJWs) is that they try to silence opposing views, even to the point of violence. There is no discussion, just name calling, invoking the "trigger warning", blocking the general public from rallies, attempting to get opponents fired, you name it. Just a week or so ago here if Phoenix they blocked the highway, preventing everyone including emergency vehicles, from passing. Crazy bastards.
One guy who was arrested, trying to block a Trump rally, was a professional protestor ... paid by the hour.
QuoteHow you get that vid to tie into your hate for Islam is strange.
Is hating Islam a mental aberration?
If so, hating Christianity (there is plenty of that here) should be too.
I do not hate Christianity, because it does not incite Christians to hate me and kill me for not believing in Jesus.
The bible has no verses similar to the Quran 9:5, 9:29, 9:111 - incidentally, 9:111 offers a reward (instant entry to Allah's brothel) for killing unbelievers.
Or take 8:22 where unbelievers are compared to beasts, animals.
"For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are the deaf and the dumb,- those who understand not."
164 Quranic verses (http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html) incite to holy war (jihad) against unbelievers.
But people are "taught" that all religions are equally violent. That is a lie.
I have heard a lot of claims and other stuff i do not care enough to look into about cultural marxism. What i have looked into and can actually confirm is that there is indeed a trend by SJWs like those writing this types of extremely useless and disingenuous articles: https://archive.is/c7wus
There is a trend of them using seemingly purposeful obfuscation techniques. They conflate multiple meanings of a word so it looks like they are saying something really radical/interesting but they always maintain a plausible deniability due to the conflation of meanings and their unwillingness to be clear and define their concepts systematically. This can also be seen in the works of post modernists like Foucoult as shown by this paper http://philpapers.org/archive/SHATVO-2.pdf
Interestingly they use this almost literary techniques in what is supposedly an intellectual argument to attack reason or even the notion of truth itself. But their arguments end up being highly meaningless word salads with ambitious conclusions or trivial truths, depending on where the shifting meanings of the concepts they use lie at the moment. If you have to use vagueness, ambiguity and conflation your argument is probably shit.
The liberals are winding up like Taz ... and showing their teeth. Give us our liberal utopia, or you will end up in the wood chipper. The conservatives are just like them ... blood-thristy orcs all. Back in the 80s I learned to hate liberals, even before I learned to hate conservatives. Both sides want Civil War, they love Gone With The Wind for opposite reasons.
If SJW propaganda sucks, maybe they shouldn't have dropped out of college before earning their worthless English/Journalism degrees.
Pr126 ... you underestimate the Auto-da-fey. The Catholics/Protestants will come for you, but first back to the Holy Crusades! Don't you want to destroy all books that offend you? Maybe you fear them because the books are talking to each other when your back is turned ... plotting ... plotting.
It never ceases to amaze me how anti-intellectual AF chooses to be from time to time.
Quote from: Shiranu on March 30, 2016, 06:44:52 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how anti-intellectual AF chooses to be from time to time.
We aren't all brainiacs like you! This way you will get all the dates with the hot Poindexter loving babes, and the rest of us will have to do without ;-)
http://destoryculturalmarxism.blogspot.com/2013/01/what-is-cultural-marxism.html (Please make sure you scroll down for the pics)
Ah, it's a race war. At least both sides are obsessed with sex.
That's way too fast for me. This is more my speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_pTUbEbbrk
Quote from: Shiranu on March 30, 2016, 06:44:52 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how anti-intellectual AF chooses to be from time to time.
Ah yes snobbery is great part of the bullshitting by postmodernists and SJW. Anti-intellectualism would be to take this people at their word rather than probe them and pointing out the flaws. Just because something is part of an academic field or said by a famous intellectuals like foucault or simone it does not mean it is valid. There are very debatable claims they have made. As i have showed with my words and the paper i posted. And those are not even the pants on head retarded academics like Andrea Dworkin or this feminist glaciology paper: http://phg.sagepub.com/content/early/2016/01/08/0309132515623368.abstract
Quote"Structures of power and domination also stimulated the first large-scale ice core drilling projects â€" these archetypal masculinist projects to literally penetrate glaciers and extract for measurement and exploitation the ice in Greenland and Antarctica."
Ah such wit!
Or this person https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luce_Irigaray#Criticism
QuoteAlan Sokal and Jean Bricmont, in their book critiquing postmodern thought (Fashionable Nonsense, 1997), criticize Luce Irigaray on several grounds. They say she regards E=mc2 as a "sexed equation" because of their interpretation of her response to a question on the subject, for instance when she says "Perhaps it is. Let us make the hypothesis that it is insofar as it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are vitally necessary to us".[10] They also take issue with the assertion that fluid mechanics is unfairly neglected because it deals with "feminine" fluids in contrast to "masculine" rigid mechanics.
Such is the beauty of postmodern analysis.
Don't worry, the humour that in 5 years or less you will probably be a self proclaimed feminist and appreciate the the core concept of cultural Marxism isn't lost on me.
Quote from: Shiranu on March 30, 2016, 04:22:55 PM
Don't worry, the humour that in 5 years or less you will probably be a self proclaimed feminist and appreciate the the core concept of cultural Marxism isn't lost on me.
This is what delusional SJWs truly believe, it's not like you could possibly be wrong right? You are in the right side of history and all that bullshit. Heard this exact same bullshit from catholics back in the day i was challenging their faith.
Yeah no, since i dropped religious dogma and then dropped political dogma i ain't gonna be self proclaiming myself to be part of any ideological group when i know there are considerable segments and ideas of that group that i disagree with entirely. I rather proclaim my current ideas than any allegiance to an ideological label which could mean lots of things depending on which proponent you talk to. If anything i only use labels as shortcuts when i think the definitions are well stablished for the current discussion or to talk about a group of people who selfidentify as such. I prioritize the communication of meaning rather than the usage of specific words and try to avoid conflating my personal identity with my current political positions.
And no, 5 years from now i will still be laughing at those stupid postmodernist quotes as i still laugh at stupid religious quotes from 5 years ago. Specially when those trying to argue otherwise are smug assholes with no sound arguments who throw intellectual tantrums when caught on their hyperbole and other bs.
If you say so.
Cultural Marxism as an insult was a trend started by idiots like Pat Buchanan and Rush Limbaugh and then adopted by the pretentious "waah woman suxs cuz they don't want to fuck us! Fuck women!" MRAs and nutjobs like Brevik. If you want to side with those idiots, have at it, but don't give me that self-righteous b.s. that you are on the right side of history when that is the quality of leadership.
When you actually study "Cultural Marxism" (see; multiculturalism and progressive ideology) outside of youtube comments and blogs of irrelevant nobodies, I'll be waiting here for your admission that younger you was an idiot who had no idea what he was actually talking about.
When you out right admit you don't actually feel like looking about what Cultural Marxism is about, and instead only look at confirmation bias of your opinions on it, then it really is hard to take you seriously. I am hoping you at least see the obviousness in that. It is nothing more than a boogiemen for old white men who hate that society no longer wants them on the pedestal.
Out of curiosity... do you hate secular humanists? They are "Cultural Marxists" by definition. What about sex ed.?
I must say, the specific examples provided by Mauricio ... have established a new level of vapidity for me ;-)
Don't get me wrong, that shit annoys me too. And we have read a few things in my "Cultural Marxist" classes that I'm just like, "yeah, this is fucking stupid.". But to act like it even remotely approaches the majority thought is just ridiculous.
Multiculturalism is a failed experiment, just ask Angela Merkel. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11559451 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11559451)
Quote from: Shiranu on March 30, 2016, 06:09:58 PM
If you say so.
Cultural Marxism as an insult was a trend started by idiots like Pat Buchanan and Rush Limbaugh and then adopted by the pretentious "waah woman suxs cuz they don't want to fuck us! Fuck women!" MRAs and nutjobs like Brevik. If you want to side with those idiots, have at it, but don't give me that self-righteous b.s. that you are on the right side of history when that is the quality of leadership.
When you actually study "Cultural Marxism" (see; multiculturalism and progressive ideology) outside of youtube comments and blogs of irrelevant nobodies, I'll be waiting here for your admission that younger you was an idiot who had no idea what he was actually talking about.
When you out right admit you don't actually feel like looking about what Cultural Marxism is about, and instead only look at confirmation bias of your opinions on it, then it really is hard to take you seriously. I am hoping you at least see the obviousness in that. It is nothing more than a boogiemen for old white men who hate that society no longer wants them on the pedestal.
Out of curiosity... do you hate secular humanists? They are "Cultural Marxists" by definition. What about sex ed.?
Im aint siding with no one. I made specific points with citations about ideas and styles of argumentation/analysis that I find ridiculous which are part of or inspired by the postmodernist thought which some consider to be part of cultural marxism which is a term i do not use because it is loaded with claims i have not verified myself which was the first thing i said on this topic. Your post is completely irrelevant to me. Your with us or against us bullshit is just that. Bullshit.
Quote from: Jack89 on March 30, 2016, 07:21:12 PM
Multiculturalism is a failed experiment, just ask Angela Merkel. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11559451 (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11559451)
The weakness of Greater Germany, is that there are not enough Germans. That forces them to take in additional manpower, that is not entirely cooperative. They hope that the German-Turk combine, can lay Europe waste. It was Poland that saved Vienna, not Germany (distinct from Austria), when besieged by the Turks. It was rough love, and perhaps Germany didn't want to be saved, but ravished and married to the Sublime Porte, to be principle wife of course. And Poland jumped into the middle and ruined everything ... a German-Turkish combine not being in their interest.
Quote from: Shiranu on March 30, 2016, 06:27:23 PM
But to act like it even remotely approaches the majority thought is just ridiculous.
Which i never claimed. I specifically phrased my post to avoid giving that impression. Unlike you i did not make the arrogant claim that even though i have not read that much about postmodernists i know them at their best and at their worst and that's just how it is! All my claims are related to the writings i linked or quoted. Since i connot possibly know more than what i know, unlike you i can't project judgement on an entire movement because of specific cases i disagree with. And those cases are part of postmodern thought according to various sources if you disagree with that whatever i do not care about that semantic discussion call it however you want my points still stand regardless of how you want to call that analysis and those ideas. And just pointing that out does not imply i mean every single idea or thinker asscoiated with it is the same.
I guess I just don't see the value in attacking minority groups that are completely and utterly irrelevant. Better things to do with my time.
Quote from: Shiranu on March 30, 2016, 08:00:07 PM
I guess I just don't see the value in attacking minority groups that are completely and utterly irrelevant. Better things to do with my time.
Ah yeah right that's why you made your latest posts berating MRAs a fringe group whose ideas you deemed as "useless information" a couple of days ago. How convenient that now after I respond to your criticisms the discussion is no longer worthy of your time. Your complete inability/unwilligness to concede even minor things is baffling. Once you get caught you try to weasel out as if it was the end of the world to admit you might have not been entirely right on your assesment. Or that my criticism may actually be valid when applied to the text I was actually referring too. The majority of our disagreements on this forum do not even seem to be on mainpoints or facts but even when I offer the olive branch (like on the cultural relativism discussion) you just cannot take it. Does it really hurt you so much to admit that maybe you were a bit hyperbolic? Or maybe you did not phrase a post in the most precise manner? Or maybe after clarification our disgreement was mainly on rhetoric or perspective or semantics? Who fucking cares in the end it is precisely to refine ideas that one argues.
QuoteAh yeah right that's why you made your latest posts berating MRAs a fringe group whose ideas you deemed as "useless information" a couple of days ago. How convenient that now after I respond to your criticisms the discussion is no longer worthy of your time.
Because, see again, those were ACTUAL issues that need to be addressed... not, "OMG SJW OMG FEMINISTS AH THE WOLRD IS COMING TO AN END!".
Also the difference is I did not in the least bit go out of my way to make the post. So again... they aren't worthy of my time, since that was something I was already going to share. Might want to untwist your knickers, lass.
QuoteYour complete inability/unwilligness to concede even minor things is baffling.
K.
QuoteOnce you get caught you try to weasel out as if it was the end of the world to admit you might have not been entirely right on your assesment.
Nah, MRA are a bunch of fucktards. Still not "weasling" out of that like you keep on implying.
Too bored to read the rest, and the game is about to start. Toodles.
Even when the mechanism has been exposed you repeat the same move... At this point it is just sad.
K.
What the hell does it have to do with Marxism??
Quote from: Atheon on March 31, 2016, 02:23:34 AM
What the hell does it have to do with Marxism??
Honestly the recent internet usage of cultural marxism seems to me to be something different from the old rightwing conspiracy theory of the frankfurt school subverting western values to facilate the marxist revolution in the west. It seems to be mainly a synonym of social justice warrior that implies they are trying to promote a sort of class struggle rhetoric and marxist critique but in a cultural and ethnic context rather than economic. There seems to be a trend with memes originating from the most nutty parts of the alt right going viral and it's meaning being diluted in it's usage by people who see some sense in the term but do not necessarily buy, know or care about the whole backstory.
Cultural marxism is not a term i would use and do not recommend it, because it is loaded and vague. Stick with SJW and actually articulating your points in long format.
Quote from: Atheon on March 31, 2016, 02:23:34 AM
What the hell does it have to do with Marxism??
Anything that does't come out of the brain of Karl Rove ... is Marxist. Get with the goose step!
Quote from: mauricio on March 31, 2016, 02:35:00 AM
Honestly the recent internet usage of cultural marxism seems to me to be something different from the old rightwing conspiracy theory of the frankfurt school subverting western values to facilate the marxist revolution in the west. It seems to be mainly a synonym of social justice warrior that implies they are trying to promote a sort of class struggle rhetoric and marxist critique but in a cultural and ethnic context rather than economic. There seems to be a trend with memes originating from the most nutty parts of the alt right going viral and it's meaning being diluted in it's usage by people who see some sense in the term but do not necessarily buy, know or care about the whole backstory.
Cultural marxism is not a term i would use and do not recommend it, because it is loaded and vague. Stick with SJW and actually articulating your points in long format.
Ideology is all about Daleks ... are you a Gold Dalek or a Silver Dalek? The end of course is the same ... Exterminate, exterminate!
"Cultural Marxism = SJWs" Riiiight. New heights reached in AF anti-intellectualism.
The gap between Republicans and secular democrats or may be even the atheist minority is not that big as we wish it to be, is it? May be we are actually getting lucky with Turmp and we are not even aware of it? That's so depressing.
Nope, I am not going to jump into the 'Americans are just stupid, give up' bandwagon. Take that Europe. Ha!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY88YisC9YI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUt8iHVTO4w