https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBSG98qzaPc&feature=youtu.be
She is an ex-Mormon who does some very good videos. Left the Mormon church and became a video star. Love her stuff, very sensible and well informed. Not to mention she is a total hottie.
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Article about her:
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/issue-sections/headline-story/13714/laci-green-youtube-feminist-profile/
Another picture:
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Very intelligent videos deal with sexual issues, feminism and so forth. Yes I'm a fan. Carry on.
I love her, too.
She has not made a huge deal of leaving Mormonism but has concentrated on doing informative videos. A class act in every respect. r/exmormon has been after her to do an AMA and I'd like that, but so far she has declined, apparently. I think she is a private person generally.
I'm not personally a fan, but I can see why others are.
I liked her back when she was known as Gogreen18. She came out as an atheist and was especially critical of the Religious Right's patriarchal attitudes. I loved her content, but she had this strange way of presenting her videos - she'd always be uncomfortably close to the camera, nearly always wear something very low cut, and the camera would be centered on her boobs, often cutting off the top of her head. I'm not very put off by stuff like that, but I started to wonder why she apparently felt the need to present herself that way. It seemed like an odd thing to do for someone who wants to be taken on her merits rather than appearance. Meh, whatever. She makes good points and I mostly just listen to youtube in the background while gaming anyway, so who cares?
Then she got into this spat (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOW3RvUTiGw) with the Amazing Atheist. The Amazing Atheist was responding to some right-wing bigot who happened to be female and basically called her a dumb bimbo. Maybe he took the insults a little too far, I dunno. It didn't seem that much different from the flak that male right-wing bigots get. Laci Green jumped in and overreacted to it, taking it as a slight on women in general and painting TJ as some sort of misogynistic monster for criticizing a right-wing asshole. I kinda soured on Laci Green after that, but mostly because her videos focused more on sex and women's issues and less and less about atheism and politics. Not really my thing, so I watched her less and less and eventually stopped watching her at all.
Years later and I don't really hear much about her except for the occasional video that criticized her for some outrageous statement or another. Whatever.
Fast forward to October 2015 and Sargon of Akkad and others were going on about some crazy feminist who bizarrely claimed that "everything is problematic" and was trying to police Halloween costumes for alleged racism/sexism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IAlYO7C2yU
Apparently, she drank the SJW flavor-aid bigtime. Such a shame. She seemed like a nice person, but part of my beef with religion is how they try to control people - telling people what they can say and think - and I see that same authoritarian streak among the SJWs and in Laci's video. I can't get behind that sort of thing, no matter how well-intentioned it may be.
The guy is such a smarmy dick that I can't even watch that video.
I too am not really a fan... She has a few good videos, but after a while she started going crazy... posting bullshit 'facts' like her powdered alcohol video and her slew of mildly to severely anti-man feminist videos... I quickly lost interest in supporting her work as a whole. She still has some good videos, but she has a lot of shit videos too now... and increasingly so. (see vortex of shit thread)
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 13, 2016, 01:39:03 PM
I too am not really a fan... She has a few good videos, but after a while she started going crazy... posting bullshit 'facts' like her powdered alcohol video and her slew of mildly to severely anti-man feminist videos... I quickly lost interest in supporting her work as a whole. She still has some good videos, but she has a lot of shit videos too now... and increasingly so. (see vortex of shit thread)
I admit that I have not seen all that many of her videos, so I am not sure about all of them. The ones I've seen are about sex and sexuality, birth control, consent and rape. I thought her delivery was well-informed, factual, and really valuable.
Quote from: Mermaid on March 13, 2016, 01:47:45 PM
I admit that I have not seen all that many of her videos, so I am not sure about all of them. The ones I've seen are about sex and sexuality, birth control, consent and rape. I thought her delivery was well-informed, factual, and really valuable.
Yeah. She actually started out doing a sexuality video series. It may be on her main channel or a different one. I lost track. Those were actually really good and I still find them valuable. Other than that though, there is few quality videos that isn't a bunch of gleeful hate-mongering in the tone of her brand of feminism... with the added dose of the occasional misunderstanding of basic science... (like that powdered alcohol video...)
Man. Those videos were pre-2008. She's been on youtube for a LOOONG time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1ImMtHrrKo This is her original channel. Way before most of her content went to shit.
She must have deleted her other videos on here. I remember GoGreen18 had a lot more videos.
This video isn't the most refined, in terms of content, but hey. This was way before the age of youtube as a profession. It was also one of her first atheist videos, so it's actually impressing at how good the content is with that considered.
Now though... it's all gone. Everything is ruined. Thanks SJW-aide. You ruined a good youtuber
Quote from: Mermaid on March 13, 2016, 01:36:44 PMThe guy is such a smarmy dick that I can't even watch that video.
Yeah, and he sort of is. Of course, I hear the same thing about Richard Dawkins from theists. Or the Amazing Atheist from Republicans. These people criticize ideas that some people hold very dear and their first reaction is "Oh he's an arrogant asshole". I've noticed that objecting to the tone seems like a very convenient way to ignore what he has to say. It takes a big person to get over that initial revulsion and hear them out.
One of the comments in the video I posted even said "Laci should have stuck to atheism and sex education."
I completely agree. She fell way too far down the wrong rabbit hole.
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 13, 2016, 01:57:21 PM
Yeah, and he sort of is. Of course, I hear the same thing about Richard Dawkins from theists. Or the Amazing Atheist from Republicans. These people criticize ideas that some people hold very dear and their first reaction is "Oh he's an arrogant asshole". I've noticed that objecting to the tone seems like a very convenient way to ignore what he has to say. It takes a big person to get over that initial revulsion and hear them out.
It was actually more the chuckling at length after playing a statement from her.
Shoulda posted a trigger warning, you know how feminists get the blood boiling here :P.
Edit: Wait, hating the Amazing Atheist is a Republican thing? I thought most people got sick of his bullshit years ago, republican or not...
Quote from: Shiranu on March 13, 2016, 02:19:18 PM
Shoulda posted a trigger warning, you know how feminists get the blood boiling here :P.
YES! Thank you! :sob: We feminists are super sensitive, you know.
Quote from: Shiranu on March 13, 2016, 02:19:18 PM
Shoulda posted a trigger warning, you know how feminists get the blood boiling here :P.
It's not feminism that gets blood boiling; it's bullshit. It just so happens that a lot of people (not all) that fall down that brand of feminism tend to be full of shit.
Oh look, a thread about an outspoken feminist. This will surely be a civil discussion with no insults from either side, yes indeedy.
Fair and balanced (like Fox News).
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 13, 2016, 01:57:21 PM
Yeah, and he sort of is. Of course, I hear the same thing about Richard Dawkins from theists. Or the Amazing Atheist from Republicans. These people criticize ideas that some people hold very dear and their first reaction is "Oh he's an arrogant asshole". I've noticed that objecting to the tone seems like a very convenient way to ignore what he has to say. It takes a big person to get over that initial revulsion and hear them out.
This is one reason why when someone is communicating ideas or information I prefer to read rather than watch someone on television or YouTube. I find it easier to focus on the message when I'm not distracted by the messenger. Entertainment is different.
She's a white Melissa Harris Perry. She needs to stop telling women what to do. I thought that was one of her main points? Don't tell women what to do? I watched a video of someone criticizing Lacy Green's video, and Lacy was scolding Miley Cyrus about what hairstyle she is allowed to have. You can't be white and have a "black" hair style? Fuck you Lacy. It's not your job to tell women how they can and can not dress or style their hair.
How does Laci Green tell women what to do?
I don't know her. Should I care?
Quote from: Mermaid on March 13, 2016, 05:35:23 PM
How does Laci Green tell women what to do?
Well, Miley is a transgender and not a woman, but Lacy scolded her for having dreadlocks while being white. That's lecturing to people about what they should and should not do with their hair. Why is she so worried about what people do with their hair? I thought only North Korean dictators were super concerned about what people are doing with their hair.
Do you have a link to that blog entry?
Quote from: josephpalazzo on March 13, 2016, 06:07:53 PM
I don't know her. Should I care?
Nah. You're good. Don't waste your time.
Quote from: Mermaid on March 13, 2016, 05:35:23 PM
How does Laci Green tell women what to do?
She can't "make" anyone do anything. But, people influence others. And when you have a huge presence like she does, your influence is much stronger.
Especially when we realize the type of audience she gets... if you think about it, these people are already researching the bullshit she's flinging. Analytics do the rest on youtube and google. If the person is easily swayed by confirmation bias they're swayed the way she thinks the world works (doesn't work??? the world is infinitely problematic and everything is a patriarchy or some shit, in her eyes...).
Quote from: Mermaid on March 13, 2016, 07:34:57 PM
Do you have a link to that blog entry?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x-fpyvif6w
Thanks.
Is that the right video? There's nothing in it about Miley Cyrus, other than a picture of her briefly.
"I saw a lot of celebrities AKA very problematic people. Miley Cyrus was wearing dreadlocks.."
She's saying dreadlocks on white people are problematic, clearly. She says LITERALLY EVERYTHING is problematic. She's looking for any and every reason to get offended. She likes being offended by every little thing in life. It brings her joy, because then she can turn around and whine about every little thing in life.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on March 14, 2016, 04:14:13 PM
"I saw a lot of celebrities AKA very problematic people. Miley Cyrus was wearing dreadlocks.."
She's saying dreadlocks on white people are problematic, clearly. She says LITERALLY EVERYTHING is problematic. She's looking for any and every reason to get offended. She likes being offended by every little thing in life. It brings her joy, because then she can turn around and whine about every little thing in life.
I interpret her much differently than you do, apparently.
You hear what you want to hear. I'm quoting her when she says "literally everyone and everything is problematic". Laci shouldn't use the word literally if she doesn't mean literally. White people have been wearing dreadlocks for thousands of years, so Laci sounds like a sensitive, race baiting idiot here who gets offended by every little thing in the world, but don't take my word for it. She admits it herself. To her, literally everything is problematic.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on March 14, 2016, 04:14:13 PM
She's looking for any and every reason to get offended. She likes being offended by every little thing in life. It brings her joy, because then she can turn around and whine about every little thing in life.
I think you are hearing what you want to hear.
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on March 14, 2016, 06:30:57 PM
"literally everyone and everything is problematic".
I took that as sarcasm.
I don't really know that much about Ms. Green other than what Sargon of Akkad has said in video responses to her. However, just briefly going over some of her work, my first impression is of someone who has drunk the SJW kool-aide. If that's true, then it casts doubt on the objectivity of anything she says about feminism. Does anyone know of a high-quality video of hers I could watch, just in case I've missed something important while skimming?
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on March 14, 2016, 06:53:09 PM
I don't really know that much about Ms. Green other than what Sargon of Akkad has said in video responses to her. However, just briefly going over some of her work, my first impression is of someone who has drunk the SJW kool-aide. If that's true, then it casts doubt on the objectivity of anything she says about feminism. Does anyone know of a high-quality video of hers I could watch, just in case I've missed something important while skimming?
It's mostly her early stuff. All of the recent things are pretty shitty. I don't know of one recent one that isn't.
I did post one of her early ones from back when I actually see her as someone worth listening to in this thread though if you want to check that out
-Sent from your mom
Like I was saying. She had some REALLY good quality videos, very informative videos about atheism and sexuality... then she fell down the full-sjw rabbithole and everything went to shit. That's what happens when your job and life exists on the "vortex of shit" that is the internet though, so I don't completely blame her for letting her lead herself a bad way
That's kind of how I see her, too, PE.
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 13, 2016, 01:57:21 PM
Yeah, and he sort of is. Of course, I hear the same thing about Richard Dawkins from theists. Or the Amazing Atheist from Republicans. These people criticize ideas that some people hold very dear and their first reaction is "Oh he's an arrogant asshole". I've noticed that objecting to the tone seems like a very convenient way to ignore what he has to say. It takes a big person to get over that initial revulsion and hear them out.
that is precisely why I like Sargon and TJ, they tell things as it is, they won't white wash things and speak their minds, brazenly, but honestly, and people so often confuse their brazen attitude for trolling, when they are more grounded in their opinions then other youtubers. I use to be a fan of steve shivs, he use to raise some good points in his early videos, but when he started to go full on man hating/self hating feminist, I stopped, helped on by the fact sargon confronted him on some of his bullshit, and all shivs did was block sargon instead of addressing his points.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg7R6LhAcMM
Thats the death knell for me when it comes to who I watch. If you block people instead of refuting what they're saying, I stop watching.
Forever.
Quote from: Munch on March 14, 2016, 08:13:09 PMthat is precisely why I like Sargon and TJ, they tell things as it is, they won't white wash things and speak their minds, brazenly
Exactly. And I don't agree with everything they say either, but I do greatly appreciate them being so blunt and candid. Who knows, maybe after this whole SJW fad is over and done with, Laci will rekindle her old style, which was more tell-it-like-it-is and less listen-and-believe. Stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1ImMtHrrKo
Quote from: Nonsensei on March 14, 2016, 08:56:45 PMThats the death knell for me when it comes to who I watch. If you block people instead of refuting what they're saying, I stop watching.
Forever.
Or disabling comments and voting. It practically screams that you're thin-skinned and unable to handle criticism like an adult.