http://www.psypost.org/2016/03/porn-viewers-think-highly-women-41404
QuotePeople who watch pornography hold views of women as more equal to men than people who do not watch pornography, and are no less likely to describe themselves as feminists, according the results of a study published in the Journal of Sex Research.
The role of pornography in shaping societal attitudes towards women has been a topic of longstanding debate. Some commentators argue that pornography is inherently demeaning to women, and that viewing it causes men to develop more hostile gender attitudes and causes women to internalize negative gender stereotypes. Others contend that pornography empowers women, and that viewing it promotes more equal gender attitudes among both men and women.
A study led by Taylor Kohut, of Western University, addressed this controversy using data from more than 28,000 people who participated in the General Social Survey, an annual study of attitudes in the US population, between 1975 and 2011. The survey asked participants if they had watched an X-rated movie in the last year. It also included several questions regarding their attitudes towards women.
These included attitudes towards women working outside the home, women holding positions of political power, traditional familial gender roles, and the legality of abortion. Respondents also indicated whether or not they thought of themselves as feminists.
In total, 23% of Americans told researchers that they had viewed pornography in the last year. Both male and female pornography viewers had better attitudes towards women working outside the home, and were more supportive of abortion rights, in comparison with those who had not watched pornography.
In addition, male pornography viewers had more positive attitudes about women holding positions of political power in comparison with male non-viewers. There were no differences between pornography viewers and non-viewers in terms of either feminist identification or attitudes towards traditional family gender roles.
The authors of the study conclude that their data contradict claims based on radical feminist theory that pornography use contributes to negative views of women. Rather than being prone to viewing women as subordinate or inferior to men, people who had viewed pornography saw them as more empowered in both politics and the workplace.
However, they also noted that the data did not support the claim made by some “pro-sex†feminists that pornography is a conduit for promoting feminism, especially among women. Instead, both pornography viewers and non-viewers had similar rates of feminist identification.
While debate about the relative merits of pornography use will undoubtedly continue, these findings will give some support to those who argue that at least some of the dangers attributed to it have been exaggerated.
I like this study's conclusions, but the skeptic in me is asking this:
How does seeing a girl take 3 dicks at once result in more positive attitudes toward women holding positions of political power?
God works in mysterious ways...
Quote from: Nonsensei on March 03, 2016, 10:21:35 AM
I like this study's conclusions, but the skeptic in me is asking this:
How does seeing a girl take 3 dicks at once result in more positive attitudes toward women holding positions of political power?
Hey you try taking 3 dicks and see how that works. That is some power right there.
Quote from: josephpalazzo on March 03, 2016, 10:30:03 AM
God works in mysterious ways...
Ain't nothing mysterious about taking 3 dicks, last time I checked.
Does she have three mouths? No, so there...
Quote from: Nonsensei on March 03, 2016, 10:21:35 AMI like this study's conclusions, but the skeptic in me is asking this:
How does seeing a girl take 3 dicks at once result in more positive attitudes toward women holding positions of political power?
Probably some third factor, like age or income.
Younger people are more likely to view internet porn. And although computers and internet service are cheaper than ever, you're more likely to find that among the middle class than people who are poor.
Well, I've often wondered about the claim that porn is demeaning toward women. It didn't make sense to me from my own, but somewhat limited experience. Women can and will do what they want, pretty much the way men do. Judge them if you will. Judge the men and women who like porn. Go ahead and judge whoever you want. But judgments don't necessarily mean they are accurate perceptions. Claims about the demeaning nature of porn always sounded more like propaganda generated by those who don't approve of the way others behave. I won't get into he possible motives for such disapproval.
Why do I have a bad feeling that the study was funded by someone who hasn't been laid for the past 20 years? It's not that I just sit around all day watching porn,but I have watched porn and plenty of it. I've never gotten the 'OH! Women are equals' vibe in any porn flick I've ever watched. If anything it gives me the unrealistic view that women have some magical power that is only equaled by men with magical dicks and the last time I checked my dick was never able to produce a rabbit out of a hat..It has, however made women disappear on occasion..
Quote from: stromboli on March 03, 2016, 10:32:07 AM
Hey you try taking 3 dicks and see how that works. That is some power right there.
I've seen 3 dicks in 2 holes. I'm not going to say which they were, but neither of them were her mouth.
You find some interesting porn at 4 in the morning.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 03, 2016, 02:19:38 PM
I've seen 3 dicks in 2 holes. I'm not going to say which they were, but none of them were her mouth.
You find some interesting porn at 4 in the morning.
Oh yeah..wouldn't you just love to be the 3rd guy in that scenario?
Maybe it's just me, but I just don't want two other guys hanging around with their peckers out when I'm getting laid..
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on March 03, 2016, 02:25:59 PM
Oh yeah..wouldn't you just love to be the 3rd guy in that scenario?
Nope. Doesn't change the fact that I watched a few minutes of it. And doesn't change the fact that I enjoyed watching it. But no. My dick rubbing against another person's dick isn't my 'thing'
-Sent from your mom
Go on efukt .com.... you will see some pretty bad things from porn. It's pretty funny stuff actually.
Depending on how its used, an armpit can be thought of as a hole. Also your navel, if its an "innie" Outies not so much. I strive continually to educate.
Quote from: stromboli on March 03, 2016, 02:43:51 PM
Depending on how its used, an armpit can be thought of as a hole. Also your navel, if its an "innie" Outies not so much. I strive continually to educate.
Lol
Quote from: Nonsensei on March 03, 2016, 10:21:35 AM
I like this study's conclusions, but the skeptic in me is asking this:
How does seeing a girl take 3 dicks at once result in more positive attitudes toward women holding positions of political power?
It only says that they had viewed an x-rated movie in the last year. I would assume a normal distribution of what exactly "x-rated" means to the individual. Most were probably tame compared to what some others have viewed.
Quote from: Nonsensei on March 03, 2016, 10:21:35 AM
I like this study's conclusions, but the skeptic in me is asking this:
How does seeing a girl take 3 dicks at once result in more positive attitudes toward women holding positions of political power?
It probably doesn't directly it's just a correlation. what is interesting is that there is no negative correlation which should exist if the sex negative feminists were actually onto something.
Quote from: Nonsensei on March 03, 2016, 10:21:35 AM
I like this study's conclusions, but the skeptic in me is asking this:
How does seeing a girl take 3 dicks at once result in more positive attitudes toward women holding positions of political power?
Anyone who can can take 3 dicks is a fucking trooper. More than the logistics of taking two dicks in one hole, there's the balancing act required. You have to make sure you're giving equal attention to all dicks. It's just bad sport hogging one dick while the others need attention as well.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on March 03, 2016, 06:16:10 PM
Anyone who can can take 3 dicks is a fucking trooper. More than the logistics of taking two dicks in one hole, there's the balancing act required. You have to make sure you're giving equal attention to all dicks. It's just bad sport hogging one dick while the others need attention as well.
That is a skillset that can be applied to the class system. First you master giving each dick equal amount of attention, depending on their needs, and then you can go on to supply enough focus to the issues of the country.
Maybe Sasha Grey should be president....
One reason is that women in porn movies are not usually shown as passive and submitting, but active, enthusiastic participants. The idea they get as much joy from it and even initiate the action is decidedly not the woman portrayal that the religious want.
Quote from: stromboli on March 03, 2016, 08:25:55 PM
One reason is that women in porn movies are not usually shown as passive and submitting, but active, enthusiastic participants. The idea they get as much joy from it and even initiate the action is decidedly not the woman portrayal that the religious want.
Plus, they look gratefully up at the man as he splats them in the face with semen.
Quote from: Mermaid on March 03, 2016, 08:28:10 PM
Plus, they look gratefully up at the man as he splats them in the face with semen.
never understood that, nor the the "splatting" across any body part.
I think someone is living in a fantasy world a bit too much. I just bet that if you took a survey of say...10,000 women and asked if they feel empowered by porn and if they find the typical porn flick ending to be empowering with the girls getting splattered in the face with sploog you might just find that your odds of getting laid that day go down exponentially.
This 'study' sounds like great spin for the porn industry, but little else. It's like the NFL having players wear pink. The NFL could care less about breast cancer, but they do want the money that women have to spend.
Quote from: Nonsensei on March 03, 2016, 10:21:35 AM
I like this study's conclusions, but the skeptic in me is asking this:
How does seeing a girl take 3 dicks at once result in more positive attitudes toward women holding positions of political power?
I am also skeptical in this sense. I think porn sort of objectifies women.
I view porn and I see men and women as equals. So I'm a statistic.
Quote from: DeltaEpsilon on March 04, 2016, 08:13:49 PM
I am also skeptical in this sense. I think porn sort of objectifies women.
"Sort of" is a bit of an understatement :P.
There is good porn... but the majority of it is shit-tier fantasy that is about as "artistic" and as "realistic" as fifty-shades of grey or twilight. On the bright side I think more artistic and realistic porn is on the come-up. I think pornography is as much an art when done correctly as traditional cinema so... fapper in me aside that makes me happy as well.
The article's title is "Porn viewers more likely to see women as equals than non-viewers" NOT that porn viewers likley to see women as equals just because they watch porn.
1. Who are non-viewers? Religious extremists and people who were raised/are living in an extremely conservative environment. They are already highly likley to see the women as less than human, the 'inferior gender' by their 'creation'; all their traits, let alone sexual beings. For these people, sex is between a man and a woman to procreate under marital contract.
So yes if you evaluate the issue in contrast with very conservative religious men, I am sure other men have 'better' view of women. Consuming porn is a normal behaviour for adults, it is mainstream. This doesn't mean you have to consume porn to be sexually functional. It just means you are consuming a mainstream product.
2. The expression of the title -and the general language used in the article- reflects the point of view that porn is for male intertainment, because 'men consume porn far more'. (Not correct, het women watch porn much higher than anyone thinks and they have to watch porn designed for het males.)
Problems with research is that
- Observer effect. This is a taboo subject. There will always be self awareness, 'auto-corrections' with participating individuals. And they won't even be aware of that; it's natural self defence. Noone wants to be labeled negatively. Psychological repression is the main undefeatable problem with humans and their attitudes in sexual desires.
For a research of this kind, more than a Q&A survey, there is a need of a test designed to break the consciousness of participants while answering multiple choice questions. (Long tests) And participants MUST NOT know about what they are being tested about.
-When you ask people if they consume 'porn' to make a research on thier attitudes toward a gender, the answer 'YES' is not the 'key variable'. Because porn is very diverse and The TYPE of porn they watch is important, not that they watch porn.
-Majority of heterosexual porn doesn't even show the male properly in the frame, because men don't like to see it and the general idea is 'porn is for men'. We are back at the understanding behind the title. If something is designed for one gender in mainstream, how could that can create and equal view for the others?
The fantasy scale is designed for men. Do you know a site that promotes a main fantasy of father&daughter? How many of sons&mothers? How many porn sites promoting teenage girls or school girls as opposed to teenage boys and school boys...etc. We can multiple these examples.
-Porn is NOT a realistic reflection of sex. For both genders. It's not just women who internalise negative gender stereotypes, but also men.
-Objectification of women in porn is about the role they play. Not them getting naked and having sex in front of a camera. It's about the human culture.
Is porn the sum of diverse acts created between men and women made to satisfy people's sexual desires of a fantasy culture OR is it a product of the current human culture reflecting the attitudes towards those genders? Bit of both? Porn is a product of supply and demand. People do not demand something that doesn't already exist in their culture or the way they DON'T relate to both genders and forms of sexual relationships.
If one day a female porn actress can just quit her job and do something else without her life being affected with her previous occupation; when women will be free to sell their sex and bodies without the control of men -just if they wish- only then porn -also prostitution- will EMPOWER women what ever the role they are playing.
And the solution of this is not transforming 'pimps' into glorified bussiness men or women in porn and prostitution, but providing real freedom; solid unions and laws for these women AND men to sell what is theirs and lead the human culture to accept this as a simple trade.
There is a unbelivable distorted view among men -esp. Western- that female porn stars -or prostitution esp. in EU- are not oppressed or doing what they choose and want at most times. This is a delusion.
Of course porn objectifies people. Sex objectifies people by its basic nature. "I'm horny, and your pretty: Make me come."
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on March 05, 2016, 06:50:13 AM
Sex objectifies people by its basic nature. "I'm horny, and your pretty: Make me come."
And it's often mutually objectifying.
Quote from: Atheon on March 05, 2016, 09:49:09 AM
And it's often mutually objectifying.
Sex between live people in the same room ... but not with porn, there is only one live person in the room ... the other participant was pre-recorded.
Quote from: Atheon on March 05, 2016, 09:49:09 AM
And it's often mutually objectifying.
What are the categories of heterosexual female porn compared to the male ones? Can you name a few?
How far you need to bend backwards to claim something like that?
SEX can be mutually objectifying, Shoe, not porn. Porn is, by it's nature, objectifying. It is not usually meant for any purpose, but for the viewer to become aroused and masturbate.
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on March 05, 2016, 10:55:29 AM
SEX can be mutually objectifying, Shoe, not porn. Porn is, by it's nature, objectifying. It is not usually meant for any purpose, but for the viewer to become aroused and masturbate.
Yes, agreed. But he is talking about porn, not sex. They are two very different things. That is the whole point.
Actually, Atheon was responding to what I had said, in the post just before his. Which is essentially that porn is objectifying, because sex itself is mostly objectifying.
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on March 05, 2016, 11:30:47 AM
Actually, Atheon was responding to what I had said, in the post just before his. Which is essentially that porn is objectifying, because sex itself is mostly objectifying.
If you think porn is objectifying men and women the same way with sex people are having one on one, then you are very confused about what is sex and what is porn.
Porn is the sexual acts of written fantasies and acted/done by professionals in front of a camera. They are made to follow particular demands of consumers. The person watching porn has no interaction with the scene, but simply the voyeur over a fantasy, expecting to be turned on. It's basically voyeurism. Porn stars have exaggerated body ideals and over the top sexual performances. Nothing matches the reality. It's done and recorded in particlar ways so it would look in a certain way to the viewer.
Sex is what non professional people have in privacy between themselves, physically getting intimate and most often with partners they feel they can be intimate with.
We do not have sex in a way so it would look good to an observer from outside. We do not get paid, we are not observed or recorded. Average sex does not include extreme scenarios or exaggerated positions or elaborated role playing. Exaggerated body images...etc.
Objectifying each other to make a partner happy in bed -someone you are attached with somewhat emotional bonds even for just the act - has nothing in common with what professionals do in front of a camera. Motivation is different, benefits are different.
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on March 05, 2016, 11:30:47 AM
Actually, Atheon was responding to what I had said, in the post just before his. Which is essentially that porn is objectifying, because sex itself is mostly objectifying.
Yes, I meant sex, not porn.
OK then, I misunderstood your post.
I think women just get their porn in a different medium for the most part. Want to see women objectifying men in a sexual scenario?
https://www.goodreads.com/genres/romance
Behold the faceless male torsos. All of them have an 8 pack. All of them will end up being either royalty or absurdly rich and powerful. They will also, with very few exceptions, all be the exact same character. The same character spanning sub-genres and authors. They will also most likely fall in love with the female lead at first sight, skipping past all the annoying hard stuff about real romance so we can get down to the orgasms and shopping.
Sounds a lot like what men get out of porn vids, minus the shopping I guess.
Head on over to the M M Romance section for a nice parallel to lesbian porn vids.
Different medium, same result.
I started to think people actually have no idea what is the issue here, but just after maintaining the usual rat race between female and male camps.
I'd appreciate if a het male gives a remote sign on full understanding of the difference between what is pornography and what is sex in real life. Because obviously it is not registered that NOBODY is defending that males are NOT objectified. Or even what is meant by 'objectification' here.
That's why I like aitm even though he drives me crazy at most times with this issues. The bastard actually has an idea about sex in real life and fantasy and the gap between.
Quote from: Nonsensei on March 05, 2016, 01:27:02 PM
I think women just get their porn in a different medium for the most part. Want to see women objectifying men in a sexual scenario?
https://www.goodreads.com/genres/romance
Behold the faceless male torsos. All of them have an 8 pack. All of them will end up being either royalty or absurdly rich and powerful. They will also, with very few exceptions, all be the exact same character. The same character spanning sub-genres and authors. They will also most likely fall in love with the female lead at first sight, skipping past all the annoying hard stuff about real romance so we can get down to the orgasms and shopping.
Sounds a lot like what men get out of porn vids, minus the shopping I guess.
Head on over to the M M Romance section for a nice parallel to lesbian porn vids.
Different medium, same result.
Eh there's videos too. I've seen plenty of videos where women prey on men. There's probably just as much of those as the flip-side (or actually more). And talking about objectifying women in porn... How about the fact that in porn women of all shapes, sizes, and body types are featured, but the guy is almost always fit or at least somewhat fit? And don't get me started on penis size...
Yeah "objectification" of women is pretty bullshit in porn, at least in the sense that they are more objectified than men.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 05, 2016, 01:47:20 PM
I started to think people actually have no idea what is the issue here, but just after maintaining the usual rat race between female and male camps.
I'd appreciate if a het male gives a remote sign on full understanding of the difference between what is pornography and what is sex in real life. Because obviously it is not registered that NOBODY is defending that males are NOT objectified. Or even what is meant by 'objectification' here.
That's why I like aitm even though he drives me crazy at most times with this issues. The bastard actually has an idea about sex in real life and fantasy and the gap between.
Technically everyone in the video taking part in the porn is objectified. lol They're
selling the porn after all. They're products :lol:
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 05, 2016, 02:00:18 PM
Technically everyone in the video taking part in the porn is objectified. lol They're selling the porn after all. They're products :lol:
Yep, of course. That's what I meant above in my first post. It is also the product of the culture and it is shaped according to what people consume and demand.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 05, 2016, 01:47:20 PM
I started to think people actually have no idea what is the issue here, but just after maintaining the usual rat race between female and male camps.
I'd appreciate if a het male gives a remote sign on full understanding of the difference between what is pornography and what is sex in real life. Because obviously it is not registered that NOBODY is defending that males are NOT objectified. Or even what is meant by 'objectification' here.
That's why I like aitm even though he drives me crazy at most times with this issues. The bastard actually has an idea about sex in real life and fantasy and the gap between.
Now I'm in a camp? That's cute.
Not everyone who responds in a given thread will be talking about the same thing you were talking about in that thread. My comment was unrelated to your discussion, and the way you know it was unrelated is because I didn't quote anyone when I wrote it. It was just a thought I had after reading the thread.
Quote from: drunkenshoeIf you think porn is objectifying men and women the same way with sex people are having one on one, then you are very confused about what is sex and what is porn.
Don't go there, Shoe.
Quote from: drunkenshoePorn is the sexual acts of written fantasies and acted/done by professionals in front of a camera. They are made to follow particular demands of consumers. The person watching porn has no interaction with the scene, but simply the voyeur over a fantasy, expecting to be turned on. It's basically voyeurism. Porn stars have exaggerated body ideals and over the top sexual performances. Nothing matches the reality. It's done and recorded in particlar ways so it would look in a certain way to the viewer.
No shit? And here I thought they just hid a camera and waited to see if someone had sex in front of it.
Quote from: drunkenshoeSex is what non professional people have in privacy between themselves, physically getting intimate and most often with partners they feel they can be intimate with. We do not have sex in a way so it would look good to an observer from outside. We do not get paid, we are not observed or recorded. Average sex does not include extreme scenarios or exaggerated positions or elaborated role playing. Exaggerated body images...etc.
Objectifying each other to make a partner happy in bed -someone you are attached with somewhat emotional bonds even for just the act - has nothing in common with what professionals do in front of a camera. Motivation is different, benefits are different.
Sex, according to Shoe.
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on March 05, 2016, 02:59:44 PM
Don't go there, Shoe.
No shit? And here I thought they just hid a camera and waited to see if someone had sex in front of it.
Sex, according to Shoe.
I wrote you a simple, basic post about the subject on how I see it after your vague, porn<->sex post. And this is your response^ to me. But of course, what ever I write here, I am the sarcastic, cynical one with too much hubris, right? I don't know which you like more, Zorn. Those Shoe posts you enjoy complaining about or just the complaining about Shoe posts in general whatever they are.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 05, 2016, 03:16:35 PM
I wrote you a simple, basic post about the subject on how I see it after your vague, porn<->sex post. And this is your response^ to me. But of course, what ever I write here, I am the sarcastic, cynical one with too much hubris, right? I don't know which you like more, Zorn. Those Shoe posts you enjoy complaining about or just the complaining about Shoe posts in general whatever they are.
Oh fuck. You're a victim again. Sorry. Time to go. :sbye2:
Quote from: stromboli on March 03, 2016, 08:25:55 PM
One reason is that women in porn movies are not usually shown as passive and submitting, but active, enthusiastic participants. The idea they get as much joy from it and even initiate the action is decidedly not the woman portrayal that the religious want.
Well, unless you are Jimmy Swaggert.
girls hate porn for some reason
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on March 05, 2016, 09:51:34 PM
girls hate porn for some reason
Well they do not use it as much as men on average, which makes sense due to various gender and sex differences. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17039402
I guess it's like men hating on chick flicks or erotic novels or twilight.
I am chill with erotic novels, chick flicks are hit or miss but fuck twilight :/.
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on March 05, 2016, 04:20:20 PM
Oh fuck. You're a victim again. Sorry. Time to go. :sbye2:
You posted to me. I tried to have a conversation with you in return and you gave me a meaningless snarky response. And I victimised myself pointing this out while you have been complaining all about this in the first place?
You just didn't have anything to say, but had to look 'cool' with the boys again, didn't you? Myeh.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on March 05, 2016, 09:51:34 PM
girls hate porn for some reason
Girls do not 'hate' porn. They do not have porn to appeal to them and they are never comfortable admitting they like it. It's always safer 'to hate' it for most of them. Because doesn't matter how liberal or free the people (men and women) around them act, it just takes a convenient moment for someone to make them feel uncomfortable; even make them feel that they won't be selected as a long time partner if they are open and spoken about it.
And in most of het porn they are pictured in ways offensive to them. They wouldn't know what to do with it. Because porn is not realistic. It's a natural response.
Everyone loves boobies!
Americans Don't Agree On Much, But They Sure Like Lesbian Porn
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/americans-watch-lesbian-porn_us_56d717aee4b0bf0dab3415f2?ir=Queer+Voices§ion=us_queer-voices&utm_hp_ref=queer-voices&
Even in a divisive election year, Americans are largely united in their appreciation of woman-on-woman porn.
"Lesbian" was the most-searched term in 30 U.S. states in the first month of 2016, according to data from news site Vocativ and Pornhub, one of the top destinations for adult content on the web. That same term was also the most-searched on Pornhub internationally in 2015.
Not everyone searching for lesbian porn is likely to place themselves on the lesbian or gay end of the sexuality spectrum. In fact, "Lesbian" was the top-viewed category among "straight" women in 2014, according to an earlier study from Pornhub.
Why are straight women watching other women get frisky? The sex depicted in "lesbian" porn might just be more appealing to female viewers, according to a Huffington Post report last year. ...
(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/56d724b61e0000950070f262.png)
Big market for "step sister" and "step mom" too. I wonder what is behind that.
And also that^ explains how the word 'symetry' is just mixed up and turned into the word 'equality'. :P
Cartoon porn?
Quote from: Mermaid on March 06, 2016, 03:34:38 PM
Cartoon porn?
I thought it means anime style porn like hentai. They mean something different?
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 06, 2016, 03:37:32 PM
I thought it means anime style porn like hentai. They mean something different?
That has to be what it is. I just don't grasp that though. I just don't.
Quote from: Mermaid on March 06, 2016, 03:49:05 PM
That has to be what it is. I just don't grasp that though. I just don't.
I watched some when I was in mid 20s. Tentacle hentai was the full blown trend then. I grew out of it soon. But I guess it was simpler then, it has countless categories. It's so exaggerated, it is the porn of the fantasies that can't be. You should see the female and male figures and genital description. :lol:
I think the reason this field grew so much so fast that it is much easier and simple turning the the extreme fantasies into porn material. Like violent stuff. 'Weird' stuff. Anything out of mainstream. It's economical and safe. You can make a cartoon however you like and get the exact result you desire, but doing that with porn actors...difficult, problematic, expensive...etc. Then it exploded from there yeaaaars ago.
Tentacle porn?
Quote from: Mermaid on March 06, 2016, 04:17:35 PM
Tentacle porn?
Highly exaggerated female figures -balloon boobs, 2 meters legs, 10 cm waist- are having 'sex' with many thick tentacled aliens. Some sort of a one entity 'gang bang' setting. Fantastical, interspecies sex, also extraterrestrial and usually evil. So there was a subtle unconsentual quality too. I don't know what changed. Probably there are thousands of versions of it. That's what I remember. It has nothing remotely realistic or anything about sex in it.
I guess Freud would say something like "it is a fantasy of some men making up for having one 'tentacle', while women have more than one place to put it"?
I once saw a room at anime con for hentai, the room holded 200 and it was full with only 5 guys in it
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on March 06, 2016, 06:00:31 PM
I once saw a room at anime con for hentai, the room holded 200 and it was full with only 5 guys in it
So...you're saying that women are into tentacle cartoon porn?
I have been leading such a sheltered life up until now. :eh:
How did I get drug into this? I don't even watch porn. Well, thats a lie,,kinda, I like one video of a gal masturbating, the Carrie Prejean video, I don't know why but that gets me. Watching other people have sex really does nothing for me. I am the weirdo in the room.
Quote from: Mermaid on March 06, 2016, 06:25:02 PM
So...you're saying that women are into tentacle cartoon porn?
I have been leading such a sheltered life up until now. :eh:
hentai is not just tentacle porn, but i guess
Quote from: Mermaid on March 06, 2016, 06:25:02 PM
So...you're saying that women are into tentacle cartoon porn?
I have been leading such a sheltered life up until now. :eh:
[spoiler=Tentacles are not the strangest fetish you'll ever find in the hentai community.](http://img1.thatpervert.com/pics/post/Kuchiki-Rukia-Bleach-Anime-futanari-1836533.png)[/spoiler]
Not that I find the above image strange myself, of course. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on March 06, 2016, 09:50:06 PM
[spoiler=Tentacles are not the strangest fetish you'll ever find in the hentai community.](http://img1.thatpervert.com/pics/post/Kuchiki-Rukia-Bleach-Anime-futanari-1836533.png)[/spoiler]
Not that I find the above image strange myself, of course. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
futa is about the only animated I'll indulge in.
...er uh...
Quote from: Shiranu on March 06, 2016, 10:14:23 PM
futa is about the only animated I'll indulge in.
...er uh...
You might like
Futabu! then. Sometimes I watch it just because it's so damned hilarious.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on March 06, 2016, 10:16:57 PM
You might like Futabu! then. Sometimes I watch it just because it's so damned hilarious.
That's on my to checkout list now thanks :P.
Hentai is the only porn that has a fuck ton of rape in it. You read me right.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on March 07, 2016, 12:34:34 AM
Hentai is the only porn that has a fuck ton of rape in it. You read me right.
Yeah that was what I meant above. That's why hentai got so big and diverse.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 07, 2016, 02:33:01 AM
Yeah that was what I meant above. That's why hentai got so big and diverse.
Eh, I dunno. Most of the time they seriously downplay how an actual rape works, either leaning towards comedy or just doing that "awkward consent" the Japanese seem to be into. Occasionally you do get a hentai that depicts rape in a realistic way, and it is extremely unsettling/horrifying to watch when that does happen.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on March 06, 2016, 09:50:06 PM
[spoiler=Tentacles are not the strangest fetish you'll ever find in the hentai community.](http://img1.thatpervert.com/pics/post/Kuchiki-Rukia-Bleach-Anime-futanari-1836533.png)[/spoiler]
Not that I find the above image strange myself, of course. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I remember you mentioning "shitting dick nipples"... I still haven't found something more.... Disturbing than that... And believe me, I tried
-Sent from your mom
Quote from: PickelledEggs on March 07, 2016, 01:41:21 PM
I remember you mentioning "shitting dick nipples"... I still haven't found something more.... Disturbing than that... And believe me, I tried
-Sent from your mom
I was trying to find an example of something that real people fap to, in this case.
I refuse to believe that SDNs are an actual fetish and not just a sick joke.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on March 07, 2016, 01:43:24 PM
I was trying to find an example of something that real people fap to, in this case.
I refuse to believe that SDNs are an actual fetish and not just a sick joke.
Hey. If it's on the Internet, someone is probably beating off to it. Doesn't matter what it is.... Lol
-Sent from your mom
Quote from: drunkenshoe on March 06, 2016, 04:41:59 AM
Girls do not 'hate' porn. They do not have porn to appeal to them and they are never comfortable admitting they like it. It's always safer 'to hate' it for most of them. Because doesn't matter how liberal or free the people (men and women) around them act, it just takes a convenient moment for someone to make them feel uncomfortable; even make them feel that they won't be selected as a long time partner if they are open and spoken about it.
Oh right women cannot express themselves from fear of social stigma but men getting sexually disparaged from openly talking about their masturbatory and deviant porn habits does not stop them? Or maybe you know, we already have research that shows men show a higher sexual drive than women by various metrics that easily explains this rather than pretending that sexual shaming is not something that affects both genders ability to talk about their porn habits openly. Now that i think about it you have it backwards most likely. If women are between themselves talking about porn would be harder since it is less used on average on that population and viceversa in the male case. You seem to think this explains why women may not like porn, but i think this is the result of them not liking porn. Same with the lower abudance of female targeted porn which does exist. Is not like porn creators are specially designated people that impose their taste on humanity. There's tons of amateur artits drawing hentai for example and there's tons of females doing female genres like shota and bara. They are still outnumbered by male artists most likely but no one is stopping them from creating more content and consuming it. Maybe male and female taste is quite different and not having a 50/50 split on something does not imply some imposed social norm limiting their expressions and actions. Maybe males just think twilight is shit and females find porn unappealling on average.
Quote from: aitm on March 06, 2016, 08:47:48 PM
Watching other people have sex really does nothing for me. I am the weirdo in the room.
I guess I'm in that club... :high5:
Quote...we already have research that shows men show a higher sexual drive than women...
From the 30s, maybe...
Now if you mean that women have a greater control over their sexual desires thanks to society training them to (when men are often encouraged to not control it), then I will agree with you there. But their natural sex drive? Biologically no different.