I saw this in a comment of the article about the planets joseph posted. This can't be true, right. It looks...hyped up to me. Also apparently China beat everyone on human evolution, including Europe. (%70) I can't imagine the result, if it was done in where I live. :lol: *Cry.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/14/277058739/1-in-4-americans-think-the-sun-goes-around-the-earth-survey-says
QuoteA quarter of Americans surveyed could not correctly answer that the Earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around, according to a report out Friday from the National Science Foundation.
The survey of 2,200 people in the United States was conducted by the NSF in 2012 and released on Friday at an annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science meeting in Chicago.
To the question "Does the Earth go around the Sun, or does the Sun go around the Earth," 26 percent of those surveyed answered incorrectly.
In the same survey, just 39 percent answered correctly (true) that "The universe began with a huge explosion" and only 48 percent said "Human beings, as we know them today, developed from earlier species of animals."
Just over half understood that antibiotics are not effective against viruses.
As alarming as some of those deficits in science knowledge might appear, Americans fared better on several of the questions than similar, but older surveys of their Chinese and European counterparts.
Only 66 percent of people in a 2005 European Union poll answered the basic astronomy question correctly. However, both China and the EU fared significantly better (66 percent and 70 percent, respectively) on the question about human evolution.
In a survey compiled by the National Opinion Research Center from various sources, Americans seemed to generally support science research and expressed the greatest interest in new medical discoveries and local school issues related to science. They were least interested in space exploration, agricultural developments and international and foreign policy issues related to science.
I'm not surprised.
https://youtu.be/M2fHQ9eULzk
Bear in mind that America is a very big country with an ocean to the east and west and a whole lot of real estate in between. The population, divided among 50 states, is quite diverse. If you were to go to a progressive state like Massachusetts you would probably find a much lower percentage of people that believe the sun goes around the earth than in the Appalachians, for example. So if you do a lump number out of 300 million and come up with 75 million scattered throughout that think that way, it isn't quite that bad.
And hopefully people running things are a little smarter than people drinking moonshine and eyeballing their cute little first cousin's assets, if you know what I mean.
Exactly, what I thought.
<--------- from Appalachia. :azn:
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 19, 2016, 03:47:11 PM
<--------- from Appalachia. :azn:
Oops. Well, I'm from the backwoods of Utah, so there is hope for all of us.
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I am so curious about a real hardcore bible belt place in the USA. Seriously. I'd like to visit.
QuoteIn the same survey, just 39 percent answered correctly (true) that "The universe began with a huge explosion"
If you asked a Nobel winning cosmologist this question they'd probably answer false too because the Big Bang wasn't an explosion.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 19, 2016, 03:52:16 PM
I am so curious about a real hardcore bible belt place in the USA. Seriously. I'd like to visit.
Trust me Shoe, it is not a place you would feel comfortable in.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 19, 2016, 03:52:16 PM
I am so curious about a real hardcore bible belt place in the USA. Seriously. I'd like to visit.
I suggest Fields of the Woods bible park (http://www.fieldsofthewoodbiblepark.com/) near Murphy, North Carolina.
(http://www.fieldsofthewoodbiblepark.com/_tencomm/fwtcmaih.jpg)
Quote from: stromboli on January 19, 2016, 03:56:09 PM
Trust me Shoe, it is not a place you would feel comfortable in.
Is it really that bad? You mean for what I would see or possible things that I would experience?
From outside, I'm just a 'white' looking little woman, with a pony tail and nerd glasses wearing sweat pants and sports shoes or a shorts with a suitable top according to the weather. Most people in the States don't even get I'm a tourist, if I don't say it. But then I have just been to a couple of blue states. They just say, 'you have a British accent'. (I don't have a British accent. I just don't have an American accent.)
Dunno, I am just really curious. I'm curious about Iran or Israel too though. :lol:
Guys, I am not thinking about wearing a tee that reads on "Hello, I am an atheist!" on a background of the American flag. :lol:
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 19, 2016, 04:06:28 PM
Is it really that bad?
Just try not to talk about religion and/or politics and you'll (probably) be fine.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 19, 2016, 04:12:11 PM
Just try not to talk about religion and/or politics and you'll (probably) be fine.
OK. Sticking to the blue. :sad2:
E: Someone will ask me "where are you from" and it would go down there. What am I going to do, "I'm a private person!". Lol. Well, may be I dunno. Just not me I guess. I'm too transparent and outgoing sometimes.
To be fair, I think probably at least 1 in 10 of those 1 in 4 probably answered wrong just to be a smartass.
We are also a country that worships college football players (some of whom can barely read) more than college professors, so yeah.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 19, 2016, 04:03:44 PM
I suggest Fields of the Woods bible park (http://www.fieldsofthewoodbiblepark.com/) near Murphy, North Carolina.
I go tubing near Murphy. Do people go tubing (riding down a river in an inflatable tube) in Turkey?
I don't know how the atheist shirt would go over. I noticed a guy at my gym who had a shirt "Man created God in his own image." I think that is the only atheist shirt I have seen someone wearing in Greensboro.
It depends on the area. The cities are generally more accepting of atheists, while rural areas can be pretty touchy about religion.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 19, 2016, 04:38:06 PM
I go tubing near Murphy. Do people go tubing (riding down a river in an inflatable tube) in Turkey?
You mean rafting? I don't get the significance of it. Yes, they do. I didn't know it was called 'tubing.'
QuoteI noticed a guy at my gym who had a shirt "Man created God in his own image." I think that is the only atheist shirt I have seen someone wearing in Greensboro.
:lol:
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 19, 2016, 04:51:20 PM
You mean rafting?
Tubing
(http://www.welcomevalleyvillage.com/images/tubing.jpg)
Rafting
(http://www.rollingthunderriverco.com/include/products/fullsize/5328F59D-958E-19E2-00678733C91C45D1.jpg)
Ah, OK. Thanks. I still don't get why is it important though,lol.
Something like this?
https://youtu.be/F5MMBP1rPVs
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 19, 2016, 04:45:10 PM
Hiwassee?
Yes, my grandmother was actually a teacher for many years at Hiwassee College in Madisonville. I usually go tubing near Nantahala & Bryson City.
Just curious if tubing is something people did in Turkey, no real significance. When Murphy, NC was mentioned I thought of tubing.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 19, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
Yes, my grandmother was actually a teacher for many years at Hiwassee College in Madisonville.
Mom attended Hiwassee in the late 50's. Three of her sisters were there in the 60's. They grew up on Towee Creek which empties into the Hiwassee river. Her mother was born in the Hanging Dog area near Murphy.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 19, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
Just curious if tubing is something people did in Turkey, no real significance. When Murphy, NC was mentioned I thought of tubing.
Oh, OK. Lol, I thought there was something related.
People do everything of that sort that is possible to do here. Nowhere near the scale of west of course.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on January 19, 2016, 05:04:00 PM
I still don't get why is it important though,lol.
It's not. It's just where the conversation went. The place I suggested is area popular for tubing and rafting, and GSOgymrat is familiar with it.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 19, 2016, 05:11:45 PM
Mom attended Hiwassee in the late 50's. Three of her sisters were there in the 60's. They grew up on Towee Creek which empties into the Hiwassee river. Her mother was born in the Hanging Dog area near Murphy.
My grandmother could have been one of their teachers! Very cool. I was born in Morristown, TN BTW.
Quote from: stromboli on January 19, 2016, 03:31:48 PM
Bear in mind that America is a very big country with an ocean to the east and west and a whole lot of real estate in between. The population, divided among 50 states, is quite diverse.
Yep, we're a genuine melting pot of diversity. We got hillbillies, rednecks, people who attend the symphony, wackos, inbreeds, Republicans and Democrats. We got it all. :biggrin:
Is our kids learnin'?
Actually you are all wrong (as was Copernicus) ... the Sun and Earth (and other planets) go around the common focus of the ellipse they are both on (approximately). This is near but not at the center of the Sun ... the planets make the Sun wobble, this is how we are detecting extra-solar planets. Of course an ellipse has two foci, but it is one nearest the Sun's center that counts, not the one out toward the planet. All orbits are about a common center of attraction, including for the Earth/Moon system. Occultation of a an extra-solar planet in front of it's star ... is how we assess the atmosphere of that planet. There is no true center of the Solar system, or of any other system, including galaxies or the universe. In the case of the universe, every point in space can equally claim to be the center. Physics and astronomy progressed, as people learned that there were no special places, special times or special directions in the universe.
Quote from: Baruch on January 19, 2016, 08:14:09 PM
Actually you are all wrong (as was Copernicus) ... the Sun and Earth (and other planets) go around the common focus of the ellipse they are both on (approximately). This is near but not at the center of the Sun ... the planets make the Sun wobble, this is how we are detecting extra-solar planets. Of course an ellipse has two foci, but it is one nearest the Sun's center that counts, not the one out toward the planet. All orbits are about a common center of attraction, including for the Earth/Moon system. Occultation of a an extra-solar planet in front of it's star ... is how we assess the atmosphere of that planet. There is no true center of the Solar system, or of any other system, including galaxies or the universe. In the case of the universe, every point in space can equally claim to be the center. Physics and astronomy progressed, as people learned that there were no special places, special times or special directions in the universe.
Oh yeah? Well I AM a special snowflake! and the center of the universe..
Same 25% who support the Teabagger Party.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on January 19, 2016, 11:44:09 PM
Oh yeah? Well I AM a special snowflake! and the center of the universe..
So nothing special, everyone is the center of the universe, not just one of us.
We are doomed.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 19, 2016, 03:53:32 PM
If you asked a Nobel winning cosmologist this question they'd probably answer false too because the Big Bang wasn't an explosion.
Right, nor was it big. It was
not a big badda boom.
(http://i.imgur.com/GUV6xw1.gif)
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 19, 2016, 04:12:11 PM
Just try not to talk about religion and/or politics and you'll (probably) be fine.
That, and use the words "shugga" and "y'all" a lot.
Quote from: Unbeliever on January 21, 2016, 04:23:47 PMThat, and use the words "shugga" and "y'all" a lot.
It's yall and reckon down here. Also, for should sound like fur. It also helps to put an overemphasis on vowel sounds. If all else fails, just say you like wrasslin and tha good book and barbaque and you're gud.
I'd suggest not going during tornado season, since Tornado Alley and the Bible Belt are pretty much the same place.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 19, 2016, 04:38:06 PM
I go tubing near Murphy. Do people go tubing (riding down a river in an inflatable tube) in Turkey?
I don't know how the atheist shirt would go over. I noticed a guy at my gym who had a shirt "Man created God in his own image." I think that is the only atheist shirt I have seen someone wearing in Greensboro.
But was the guy ripped? Otherwise wrong god ;-)