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Title: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on October 01, 2015, 12:39:05 PM
I'll never forget the day that my mother announced to the family, after both of her parents were dead, how she had been molested by her own father, with her mother's obvious knowledge. She grew up in the 1950's, when authority trumped rights everywhere in American society. Both my sister and I were childless when we heard this, and while she later had two daughters, I never had any children. No, I'm NOT a pedophile too, I did NOT inherit my late evil granddad's gene for that! I've been haunted nevertheless by the feeling that this needs to be explained, ridiculous as it is, and have wondered if the reason why I was never asked to baby-sit my nieces had to do with a secret fear on my sister's part that I, with similar looks to that evil looks to that evil grandparent, may be like he was. I do have interesting kinks, but with children my only urge is to protect them - the thought of using them in any way just makes me sick! I won't play the hypocrite regarding hate, it can have a rational basis, and it's to be despised when it isn't, and there is a special place in my well of hatred for those who harm children!

While I find the thought of involving a child in sex to be sickening, so it's true for me regarding sex with another man. So I understand it holds with me, but not with all. Moreover, there are people who are only sexually excited by children, but do not actually harm children because they don't want to harm them. Furthermore, there is no scientific argument that pedophilia is any less in-born than LGBT deviations from the Darwinian norm - this point was hotly debated in a a thread posted earlier this month on this site, but anybody who understands logical discourse knows how WEAK the con arguments were. When it was  shut down because some people thought their right to hate and hound for life out of a home and job people who they prefer not to understand is more important than the need for them and for society to deal with their condition more positively when they avoid harming children.  I regard this sort of censorship as intellectual cowardice at its hight, although Salon wasn't too phobic to deal with similar commentary: http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/im_a_pedophile_youre_the_monsters_my_week_inside_the_vile_right_wing_hate_machine/

Every single one of us is capable of lying, stealing, raping, and killing, and more than a few among us have done so, or had the urge to do all of the above. Those who don't do such evil study their urges and find more positive solutions around them. Those with urges which you do not understand are now calling out to you for help, because they do not want to do evil, and how did you respond? You shut down the thread! Those who respond this way have no right to call yourselves "social", nor in any way reasonable - it's just plain hatred, ugly and bare as any racism or homophobia. Not even the "psychological"/physiological" debate has any relevance on this, in a world which has at least scientifically long moved past the myth that any such true distinction exists.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on October 01, 2015, 01:02:59 PM
Most pedophiles are not child molestors, most sociopaths are not murderous bastards, most narcissists are not trying to be terrible people, etc. etc. We know these things to be real, manageable conditions, and if pedophiles weren't so afraid to reveal themselves we could probably prevent many more tragedies. Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority is still going to instantly vilify them, driving them further underground and increasing the risk of them having an incident with a child. It always happens, and it never succeeds in preventing incidents. They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same process and expecting a different result...
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Solitary on October 01, 2015, 03:39:36 PM
Well said!
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Baruch on October 01, 2015, 08:10:43 PM
Except that ... this society will employ something worse than burning at the stake, in its sense of anathema and taboo.  So STFU ... as a pragmatic consideration.  Also TMK about your family ... thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: CrucifyCindy on October 01, 2015, 08:16:58 PM
I am really getting fucking sick of people equating paedophilia with LGBT. Being gay isn't a mental disorder, paedophilia is. Paedophilia is not a sexuality because it has nothing to do with gender attraction, it is paraphilia. And it should only be discussed as a paraphilia not as an alternative lifestyle.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: TomFoolery on October 01, 2015, 08:36:59 PM
Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 01, 2015, 08:16:58 PM
I am really getting fucking sick of people equating paedophilia with LGBT. Being gay isn't a mental disorder, paedophilia is.

Being gay used to be a mental disorder. Thankfully we stopped trying to legislate morality and realized what two consenting adults do between themselves shouldn't be anyone's business. But I think most people would say the only difference between a sexual orientation and a paraphilia is the ability of the partner to consent and the social stigma associated with it.

Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 01, 2015, 08:16:58 PMPaedophilia is not a sexuality because it has nothing to do with gender attraction, it is paraphilia.
Why do you think sexuality has to relate to gender only?

Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 01, 2015, 08:16:58 PMAnd it should only be discussed as a paraphilia not as an alternative lifestyle.
I highly doubt anyone is suggesting it should be an "alternate lifestyle" because a child cannot ever give consent. Why would anyone choose to be attracted to children, given it's practically the most taboo thing in Western culture? Why would anyone choose to be transgendered? Or gay? Or attracted to animals? Or attracted to dead bodies? I think the obvious answer is that they wouldn't, and the best we can do about it is what I mentioned before: being gay or transgendered doesn't hurt anyone. Fucking kids and animals does. If you want to draw the line and say it's a paraphilia then you're absolutely correct. But to not understand how it can in some instances be equated with the LGBT community is to act like all sexual impulses are different, and they aren't.

I think many people also confuse the abuse of children with pedophilia. There are people that sexually abuse children and aren't attracted to them. They do predatory things like that out of powerlessness and children make easy prey. It's fucking disgusting. And then there are pedophiles that feel sexually attracted to children and don't act on it. I can't imagine that's easy to do, because as the Catholic Church and Josh Duggar have shown us recently, being told sex is gross and you have to abstain from it forever often doesn't work. People are inherently sexual beings.

I think the OP hit the nail on the head: under the right circumstances, that veneer of humanity washes right off and pretty much all of us are capable of doing really awful things to one another. Men in prison rape one another though they claim to be straight out of a need for power and sometimes sexual urges. Russian prisoners of war clawed their comrades eyes out fighting each other for a few scraps of bread from the Nazis. The examples are endless. We don't want to admit it to ourselves that we're all just animals desperate to survive. So when someone else admits it out loud, we all act really shocked and appalled and act like church-going, pearl-clutching, fan-waving holier-than-thou assholes. It's really easy to do that to pedophiles because if you've ever watched an episode of Law & Order SVU, you think you know what pedophilia is all about. The truth is, sexuality is complex and still poorly understood, along with virtually everything else about the human psyche.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on October 01, 2015, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 01, 2015, 08:16:58 PM
I am really getting fucking sick of people equating paedophilia with LGBT. Being gay isn't a mental disorder, paedophilia is. Paedophilia is not a sexuality because it has nothing to do with gender attraction, it is paraphilia. And it should only be discussed as a paraphilia not as an alternative lifestyle.

You have no evidence for that claim, and you know it. When you know you have no truly scientific evidence to back your position, you resort to the straw-men beating, e.g. nothing was said by anyone other than you to discuss pedophilia as any sort of alternative "lifestyle". Even that which has been linked to LGBT conditions is inconclusive, and we already know that you have one of these you should be accepted in society when you practice your inclinations in an alternative lifestyle because it is harmless, and the love between LGBT partners can be as real (or not) as between hetero partners. That to do so with some other conditions would be monstrous has no bearing on the likelihood that their root causes are similar, if not the same, and this is why those who are pedophiles and don't take advantage of children deserve as much as LGBT people to be understood. Understanding of people outside of your own worldview has consistently been your weak point since you joined this forum, so I suggest you put a sock in it now before you make an even bigger asshole of yourself.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: dtq123 on October 01, 2015, 11:23:36 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on October 01, 2015, 11:14:23 PM
You have no evidence for that claim, and you know it. When you know you have no truly scientific evidence to back your position, you resort to the straw-men beating, e.g. nothing was said by anyone other than you to discuss pedophilia as any sort of alternative "lifestyle". Even that which has been linked to LGBT conditions is inconclusive, and we already know that you have one of these you should be accepted in society when you practice your inclinations in an alternative lifestyle because it is harmless, and the love between LGBT partners can be as real (or not) as between hetero partners. That to do so with some other conditions would be monstrous has no bearing on the likelihood that their root causes are similar, if not the same, and this is why those who are pedophiles and don't take advantage of children deserve as much as LGBT people to be understood. Understanding of people outside of your own worldview has consistently been your weak point since you joined this forum, so I suggest you put a sock in it now before you make an even bigger asshole of yourself.
Google Search says;
par·a·phil·i·a
ËŒperəˈfilÄ"É™/
nounPSYCHIATRY
a condition characterized by abnormal sexual desires, typically involving extreme or dangerous activities.

Judging by the amount of the population who are not pedophiles, and the fact the the pedophilia is (often) strong enough to remove romantic desire for peers, I say it would be a fair definition.

What I'm really questioning is why paraphilia has a negative connotation. Extreme things are not always bad, right?

Edit: I am a pedophile and I approve of this message.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Shiranu on October 01, 2015, 11:25:34 PM
IMO, don't compare it to the LGBT community; IF you want, start a Pedophile-Necrophilia-Bestiality-etc community, but it's not the same as consensual relationship between two adults and should not be compared to it. That doesn't mean it should be judged IF they aren't harming anyone else or saying they should be allowed to (I have enough weird Fetishes to know better than to judge...), but at the same time it is simply not the same as a straight or LGBT orientation.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on October 01, 2015, 11:39:00 PM
Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, in my mind, but unfortunately for the pedophile it is one that can't be explored without harming someone. And that's what makes homosexuality different from pedophilia, ethically speaking, homosexuality can be conducted with a consenting person, pedophilia can't.

Pedophilia is also a paraphilia, being that it's a sexual desire that can't be physically expressed without some kind of harm. That being said, we shouldn't unnecessarily demonize pedophiles. Yes, look down upon the ones who actively molest and rape children, but let's not lump in the non-offenders in with the offenders. They should be pitied in a way, they have one of the ultimate unwanted situations weighing down on them. They have desires, but if they act on them they are hurting people.

What needs to be done with them is not a blanket "Fuck you scum", but rather some approach that recognizes their hardship and seeks to help them not offend. By driving them underground and dehumanizing them we're only making it harder for them to seek help and easier to just give in to their urges. I don't know how it can be done, honestly, but something needs to be done where a pedophile can easily get the help they need without totally ostracizing them. Or we can keep it like it currently is: wait until they molest some children and ruin the kids lives, throw them into prison and ruin their lives, and say fuck it to preventative measures because they're icky and we don't want to help them.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: PickelledEggs on October 01, 2015, 11:59:06 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on October 01, 2015, 11:14:23 PM
You have no evidence for that claim, and you know it. When you know you have no truly scientific evidence to back your position, you resort to the straw-men beating, e.g. nothing was said by anyone other than you to discuss pedophilia as any sort of alternative "lifestyle". Even that which has been linked to LGBT conditions is inconclusive, and we already know that you have one of these you should be accepted in society when you practice your inclinations in an alternative lifestyle because it is harmless, and the love between LGBT partners can be as real (or not) as between hetero partners. That to do so with some other conditions would be monstrous has no bearing on the likelihood that their root causes are similar, if not the same, and this is why those who are pedophiles and don't take advantage of children deserve as much as LGBT people to be understood. Understanding of people outside of your own worldview has consistently been your weak point since you joined this forum, so I suggest you put a sock in it now before you make an even bigger asshole of yourself.
Can you please calm yourself. I'd rather this not turn in to another unnecessary, full-blown pissing match/argument.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on October 02, 2015, 12:03:37 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 01, 2015, 11:59:06 PM
Can you please calm yourself. I'd rather this not turn in to another unnecessary, full-blown pissing match/argument.
But...but...pissing matches are how we measure status here. My piss is the most golden, the most odorous. I piss more than anyone.

Goddammit, someone on the internet is wrong!!!
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 12:16:58 AM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on October 01, 2015, 11:14:23 PM
You have no evidence for that claim, and you know it.

Except for the fact that the DSM-5 lists it as a fucking disorder? Facts must kill you. You are the enemy of facts.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on October 02, 2015, 12:51:21 AM

Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 12:16:58 AM
Except for the fact that the DSM-5 lists it as a fucking disorder? Facts must kill you. You are the enemy of facts.
Because the DSM is infallible and has never been wrong. /s


Secretly a Warsie.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on October 02, 2015, 12:51:21 AM
Because the DSM is infallible and has never been wrong. /s


Secretly a Warsie.

I would think that the APA is more familiar with the subject being that they actually study the subject at hand. But you guys are the experts so we just throw away everything the medical community tells us about mental and physical conditions and just listen to a bunch of yobs blabbering about on the webs. No. When it cimes to medical issues I tend to listen to doctors not voodoo shamans who don't want to hurt the feelings of paedophiles.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 01:14:48 AM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on October 01, 2015, 01:02:59 PM
most narcissists are not trying to be terrible people

O rly? Because one of the symptoms of NPD is being an arrogant exploitive asshole who lacks empathy. People with NPD actually go out of their way to be a terrible person to others.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: PickelledEggs on October 02, 2015, 01:18:36 AM
Cindy and Peace, if you can't have a discussion without throwing around unnecessary insults, I'll temp-ban both of you. You can say the same things and debate what you want to debate without being so toxic.

Either figure out a way to discuss things in a civil manner, or don't discuss things with each other.

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Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 01:23:37 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 02, 2015, 01:18:36 AM
Cindy and Peace, if you can't have a discussion without throwing around unnecessary insults, I'll temp-ban both of you. You can say the same things and debate what you want to debate without being so toxic.

Either figure out a way to discuss things in a civil manner, or don't discuss things with each other.

5. No flaming, personal insults or attacks. It’s all good and well to criticize, attack or ridicule an argument or an idea. Doing the same to a poster will not be accepted any longer and will result in a warning or a ban, depending on the gravity of the action. Repeated offenses will result in a ban. Following a member from thread to thread with the only purpose of attacking them on a personal level will get you a permanent ban. "Calling out" another member, that is, creating a thread aimed at flaming another member is also strictly forbidden. (http://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=5589.0)


I am sorry but there is just something about rape apologetics that pisses me off.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: PickelledEggs on October 02, 2015, 01:30:50 AM
Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 01:23:37 AM
I am sorry but there is just something about rape apologetics that pisses me off.
I understand. Rape pisses me off too, but please discuss it in a civilized manner. Attack the idea with facts, not by attacking the person with insults. Plus, your point will be way less convincing if you are busy insulting the person you are arguing with because your point will be drowned out by all the toxicity and insults.

tl;dr: say the same point you're trying to make, but without the insults
(and that goes for both of you.)
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on October 02, 2015, 01:36:30 AM
Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
I would think that the APA is more familiar with the subject being that they actually study the subject at hand. But you guys are the experts so we just throw away everything the medical community tells us about mental and physical conditions and just listen to a bunch of yobs blabbering about on the webs. No. When it cimes to medical issues I tend to listen to doctors not voodoo shamans who don't want to hurt the feelings of paedophiles.
I don't think anyone here is trying to avoid hurting the feelings of pedophiles.

I, personally, just want to see less children molested, and I don't think that driving the non offending pedophiles underground is the answer. These are people who realize that they can't do what they desire without harm,  and they are pained by it. We need to help them before they become the monsters that both we and they feel.

I'm going to admit to something that's hard to admit: I was molested once. It was a one time thing. In my mind the teenager who did it while I was 6 wasn't sure of his identity. That's probably not the truth though. I'm no longer haunted by it, nor do I think of it much. The main thing it did to me was make me question my sexuality when I was going through puberty and thinking about boys. I thought I was only thinking about it because of that event, but only because I read from a website that that was the case. I tried reparative treatment on myself. I watched straight porn, I prayed to God, I read the Bible. It made me hate myself. I didn't come to terms with myself until I was 16 after many years of struggle, and didn't come out until 19.

I don't like repeating this because right wing assholes try to associate molestation with homosexuality.

This all being said, refer to my earlier post: pedophilia is a sexual orientation and a paraphilia. They need to be addressed in our society, but with some fair distinction between the offenders and nonoffenders. Should they be monitored in some way? Probably. Should they be rejected because of a desire they never acted on? No.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on October 02, 2015, 01:50:41 AM
Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 12:59:51 AMWhen it cimes to medical issues I tend to listen to doctors not voodoo shamans who don't want to hurt the feelings of paedophiles.
If that's really what you've taken away from this thread then I think you're the one who needs to see a doctor, because you have a serious case of anal-cranial inversion. :lol:
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: PickelledEggs on October 02, 2015, 01:55:37 AM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on October 02, 2015, 01:50:41 AM
If that's really what you've taken away from this thread then I think you're the one who needs to see a doctor, because you have a serious case of anal-cranial inversion. :lol:
I just got done telling her and peace to stop throwing around insults and now you're going to keep going with them? Really?
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on October 02, 2015, 01:58:31 AM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 02, 2015, 01:55:37 AM
I just got done telling her and peace to stop throwing around insults and now you're going to keep going with them? Really?
Sorry, hadn't gotten to this page yet when I wrote that.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: TomFoolery on October 02, 2015, 08:40:34 AM
Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 12:59:51 AM
I would think that the APA is more familiar with the subject being that they actually study the subject at hand. But you guys are the experts so we just throw away everything the medical community tells us about mental and physical conditions and just listen to a bunch of yobs blabbering about on the webs.

Well, I think the point people are making is the APA itself has changed its mind on what constitutes normal and abnormal sexual behavior. No one is claiming to know more than doctors, they're just wondering how the doctors know what they know because it's changed before. They even had to make a correction to the DSM V which you're quoting because it originally was listed as a sexual orientation. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/31/apa-correct-manual-clarification-pedophilia-not-se/

40 years ago they classified homosexuality as a mental disorder.

So to say that the APA is more familiar with the subject is true, but to act like they are immune to social change and further investigation is wrong. I don't think anyone is throwing away what the medical community is saying, they're just questioning terminology based on some previous flip flopping.

Besides, a lot of psychiatry and psychology is pretty fucking subjective, as the APA will also tell you.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on October 02, 2015, 12:31:01 PM
Quote from: dtq123 on October 01, 2015, 11:23:36 PM
Google Search says;
par·a·phil·i·a
ËŒperəˈfilÄ"É™/
nounPSYCHIATRY
a condition characterized by abnormal sexual desires, typically involving extreme or dangerous activities.
If that is offered as evidence, the pseudoscience of psychology need not apply (if it was truly "psychiatry" then it should explain causative factors, not assign arbitrary labels, e.g. "Abnormal" behavior. Well of course it isn't normal, and then neither are LGBT conditions in any species which reproduces through sex. The former is wrong for being harmful, the latter is ok because it isn't, and all of the above are irrelevant because they say nothing on what makes one a pedophile / paraphile. 
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 12:36:49 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on October 02, 2015, 12:31:01 PM
Well of course it isn't normal, and then neither are LGBT conditions in any species which reproduces through sex.

Oh please. Homosexuality is just as normal and natural as heterosexuality.
Title: !
Post by: peacewithoutgod on October 02, 2015, 12:39:49 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on October 01, 2015, 11:25:34 PM
IMO, don't compare it to the LGBT community; IF you want, start a Pedophile-Necrophilia-Bestiality-etc community, but it's not the same as consensual relationship between two adults and should not be compared to it. That doesn't mean it should be judged IF they aren't harming anyone else or saying they should be allowed to (I have enough weird Fetishes to know better than to judge...), but at the same time it is simply not the same as a straight or LGBT orientation.

You all need to stop telling others what they may discuss and creating strawmen in your attempt to silence them. You know damned well you are doing just that, we all know you aren't stupid - I made it crystal clear that this thread has absolutely nothing to do with the question of consent, but that of cause, that of being if you should happen to be aroused by children but care enough not to engage sexually with them at their expense. STOP THIS STONEWALLING NOW and let these people be heard and understood, give them the chance to be helped instead of the same old shit which obviously does nobody any good, or you are no better than christofacists like Kim Davis!
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on October 02, 2015, 12:40:54 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 01, 2015, 11:59:06 PM
Can you please calm yourself. I'd rather this not turn in to another unnecessary, full-blown pissing match/argument.
You're pretty good at that yourself.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on October 02, 2015, 12:42:22 PM
Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 12:16:58 AM
Except for the fact that the DSM-5 lists it as a fucking disorder? Facts must kill you. You are the enemy of facts.

Heheeeeeeeeeee - she thinks the DSM-5 has anything whatsoever to do with SCIENCE!!!!

:s_laugh:
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on October 02, 2015, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: CrucifyCindy on October 02, 2015, 12:36:49 PM
Oh please. Homosexuality is just as normal and natural as heterosexuality.

Not a question of moral norm, but biological, and I contend that paraphilia is biological because the sex drive in all animals is biological. If every member of the species homo-sapiens didn't mate with the opposite sex, and lab breeding was an option, then this would not help with the duplication of genes and genetic survival, which is the driver of the Darwin machinery. Therefore, not "normal". Not bad in society, and in modern society beneficial in many ways (parentless children need loving couples), but that doesn't mean "normal", even when they are morally normal.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Mike Cl on October 02, 2015, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on October 02, 2015, 12:42:22 PM
Heheeeeeeeeeee - she thinks the DSM-5 has anything whatsoever to do with SCIENCE!!!!

:s_laugh:
Peacewithoutgod, why do you think the DSM-5 is without scientific merit?
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on October 02, 2015, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 02, 2015, 01:55:37 AM
I just got done telling her and peace to stop throwing around insults and now you're going to keep going with them? Really?
Crucify Cindy addresses my post, as is so typical of her style with F-bombs and insults, and now I can't even respond to that without you taking her side - thanks for demonstrating how the both of you are petty, and amazingly ignorant assholes!
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on October 02, 2015, 12:58:49 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on October 02, 2015, 12:53:10 PM
Peacewithoutgod, why do you think the DSM-5 is without scientific merit?

Its purpose isn't to explain anything, nor to make any statements of fact - it assigns labels, and often arbitrarily. Especially when it comes to the soft sciences of the much-misunderstood "mental" or neurological disorders. Homosexuality used to be listed there too.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: PickelledEggs on October 02, 2015, 01:11:45 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on October 02, 2015, 12:54:46 PM
Crucify Cindy addresses my post, as is so typical of her style with F-bombs and insults, and now I can't even respond to that without you taking her side - thanks for demonstrating how the both of you are petty, and amazingly ignorant assholes!

I'm saying we should discuss things in a civilized manner. If you feel someone is ignorant on a subject, you can discuss and debate with them without calling them names. Cindy and Hijiri caught themselves and aren't insulting anyone, but you are continuing to. For that, you have earned yourself a 1 week ban from posting. Your temporary permissions will be limited to only spectating the site, not posting.

Have a good vacation. Come back with a nicer attitude.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on October 02, 2015, 01:58:14 PM
MODS = GODS
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: _Xenu_ on October 03, 2015, 09:50:24 PM
Quote from: dtq123 on October 01, 2015, 11:23:36 PM
Google Search says;
par·a·phil·i·a
ËŒperəˈfilÄ"É™/
nounPSYCHIATRY
a condition characterized by abnormal sexual desires, typically involving extreme or dangerous activities.

Judging by the amount of the population who are not pedophiles, and the fact the the pedophilia is (often) strong enough to remove romantic desire for peers, I say it would be a fair definition.

What I'm really questioning is why paraphilia has a negative connotation. Extreme things are not always bad, right?

Edit: I am a pedophile and I approve of this message.
While I'm not going to hate on you for being a pedophile, please understand the consequences of acting on your urges are extremely serious. I was molested as a kid, and have PTSD from it. It drove me to alcoholism, and made it extremely difficult for me to accept my own bisexuality, which is something Im still struggling with. Please, please don't touch any kids man. I'm begging you. You'll fuck their lives up in ways you cannot even imagine. Every interaction they have for the rest of their lives will be influenced by that.

As long as you're not actually molesting any kids, I think you deserve the same rights as anyone. You didn't ask to be the way you are, and you don't deserve to be punished for that alone. But please, consider what will happen if you act on your desires.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on October 03, 2015, 10:09:41 PM

Quote from: _Xenu_ on October 03, 2015, 09:50:24 PM
While I'm not going to hate on you for being a pedophile, please understand the consequences of acting on your urges are extremely serious. I was molested as a kid, and have PTSD from it. It drove me to alcoholism, and made it extremely difficult for me to accept my own bisexuality, which is something Im still struggling with. Please, please don't touch any kids man. I'm begging you. You'll fuck their lives up in ways you cannot even imagine. Every interaction they have for the rest of their lives will be influenced by that.
Don't mind the kid, he's just trying to be edgy.


Secretly a Warsie.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: _Xenu_ on October 03, 2015, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on October 03, 2015, 10:09:41 PM
Don't mind the kid, he's just trying to be edgy.


Secretly a Warsie.
Me or him?
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on October 03, 2015, 10:14:41 PM

Quote from: _Xenu_ on October 03, 2015, 10:13:34 PM
Me or him?
Him.


Secretly a Warsie.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: dtq123 on October 04, 2015, 12:56:29 PM
Quote from: _Xenu_ on October 03, 2015, 09:50:24 PM
While I'm not going to hate on you for being a pedophile, please understand the consequences of acting on your urges are extremely serious. I was molested as a kid, and have PTSD from it. It drove me to alcoholism, and made it extremely difficult for me to accept my own bisexuality, which is something Im still struggling with. Please, please don't touch any kids man. I'm begging you. You'll fuck their lives up in ways you cannot even imagine. Every interaction they have for the rest of their lives will be influenced by that.

As long as you're not actually molesting any kids, I think you deserve the same rights as anyone. You didn't ask to be the way you are, and you don't deserve to be punished for that alone. But please, consider what will happen if you act on your desires.
I'm fifteen, I don't even have much access to them in the first place, let alone intend to molest them. I just like to see them slowly grow up. It's the transience of innocence and development of mind that I enjoy, I don't give a fuck about child bodies.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Baruch on October 04, 2015, 12:59:52 PM
Yes, children are cute and innocent until they grow up.  Keep it that way.  But you can't be Peter Pan, unless you know Tinker Bell ;-)
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Shiranu on October 04, 2015, 01:22:24 PM
Quote from: dtq123 on October 04, 2015, 12:56:29 PM
I'm fifteen, I don't even have much access to them in the first place, let alone intend to molest them. I just like to see them slowly grow up. It's the transience of innocence and development of mind that I enjoy, I don't give a fuck about child bodies.

if you aren't interested in them sexually, then you aren't a pedophile...
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: FaithIsFilth on October 04, 2015, 03:01:44 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on October 04, 2015, 01:22:24 PM
if you aren't interested in them sexually, then you aren't a pedophile...
He could be repressing an attraction to children's bodies. He's still extremely young. When I was 15, I wasn't thinking about children's bodies. Go back in time 13 years and I'd be talking about Britney Spears and how nice her fake tits look. Perhaps dtq is also attracted to people his own age and older, so he's able to repress it that way.

This is just me guessing though, based on my own experience. I could be completely wrong and maybe he will never be attracted to children's bodies.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: dtq123 on October 04, 2015, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: FaithIsFilth on October 04, 2015, 03:01:44 PM
He could be repressing an attraction to children's bodies. He's still extremely young. When I was 15, I wasn't thinking about children's bodies. Go back in time 13 years and I'd be talking about Britney Spears and how nice her fake tits look. Perhaps dtq is also attracted to people his own age and older, so he's able to repress it that way.

This is just me guessing though, based on my own experience. I could be completely wrong and maybe he will never be attracted to children's bodies.
I believe it's a type of pedophilia to love teens... They might be my peers, but I'll love that chaotic time forever. Don't worry Sargon, I won't molest anyone. I'm not bold enough in real life to do it, let alone actually want to.

And Shiranu, I was taking Pedophilia literally by it's root (words, at the time), Despite being a bunch of savages after being corrupted, it's nice to see how innocently they behave.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: mauricio on October 04, 2015, 06:21:56 PM
Quote from: dtq123 on October 04, 2015, 06:02:28 PM
I believe it's a type of pedophilia to love teens...

Pre-puberty is pedophilia 11-12 or lower

Puberty is hebephilia 15-16 or lower

post-puberty is ephebophilia 19 or lower

those are all types of chronophilias.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on November 23, 2015, 10:11:21 PM
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on October 02, 2015, 01:58:14 PM
MODS = GODS
Here you go - enjoy!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-029qNtPxXok/UAWDk3sX0II/AAAAAAAAA4k/hDZp4erTA-M/s1600/o-middle-finger-fu.jpg
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on November 24, 2015, 02:11:21 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on October 01, 2015, 11:59:06 PM
Can you please calm yourself. I'd rather this not turn in to another unnecessary, full-blown pissing match/argument.
Pickled Eggs, you know as well as I do that my responses to a known troll who had shown herself at the time to be far more malicious than amusing did not in any way warrant moderator action of any sort. You know that my dialogue had nothing to do with it, you simply agreed with those who weren't comfortable with the subject matter I had chosen to post, so you decided to censor it. You who decided this, in line with those who called for it dislike certain questions because they challenge your ability to maintain your pretense of intellectual honesty when comparing different people to yourselves. If it made you compare pedophilia to homosexuality, well that's your problem - please don't make it mine, when the comparison was nothing which I myself intended to make. Do you think it was easy for me to put my dark family history out there? Your sensitivity to that reveals your personal immaturity.

My reason for doing this was that I believe nothing we do in society which causes injustice to some people (or is unnecessarily mean-spirited) should be exempt from being addressed rationally. I believe in true social justice, not the venom of the SJWs who we have been laughing at so much recently on this forum. SJWs engage in that censorship bullshit and shout down everyone who they disagree wit and that's exactly what you did on this post!
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 24, 2015, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on November 24, 2015, 02:11:21 PM
Pickled Eggs, you know as well as I do that my responses to a known troll who had shown herself at the time to be far more malicious than amusing did not in any way warrant moderator action of any sort. You know that my dialogue had nothing to do with it, you simply agreed with those who weren't comfortable with the subject matter I had chosen to post, so you decided to censor it. You who decided this, in line with those who called for it dislike certain questions because they challenge your ability to maintain your pretense of intellectual honesty when comparing different people to yourselves. If it made you compare pedophilia to homosexuality, well that's your problem - please don't make it mine, when the comparison was nothing which I myself intended to make. Do you think it was easy for me to put my dark family history out there? Your sensitivity to that reveals your personal immaturity.

My reason for doing this was that I believe nothing we do in society which causes injustice to some people (or is unnecessarily mean-spirited) should be exempt from being addressed rationally. I believe in true social justice, not the venom of the SJWs who we have been laughing at so much recently on this forum. SJWs engage in that censorship bullshit and shout down everyone who they disagree wit and that's exactly what you did on this post!
Excuse me?
When did I tell someone to silence themselves? Oh yeah. Never.

All I said is discuss it in a calm manner and not make this turn in to an off-topic shouting/pissing match.

Sent from your mom.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on November 24, 2015, 05:31:36 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on November 24, 2015, 02:11:21 PMI believe in true social justice, not the venom of the SJWs who we have been laughing at so much recently on this forum.
Sinking to their level helps no one.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on November 24, 2015, 06:03:11 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on November 24, 2015, 05:31:36 PM
Sinking to their level helps no one.
Which is really what we do as a society when we put people on a lifetime ban list from having any decent or attainable place to sleep, forced to wear a red letter too, and just because they were convicted of any sex crime (including one not involving children a he-said she- said at the office), and long after they have actually paid their debt. This may make parents feel more safe, but it isn't just, and where there's no justice there's injustice! I know people who aren't pedophiles (which I'm not, but by my genetic background I feel very, very lucky that I'm not) aren't interested in understanding pedophiles, but it's only through study and subsequent understanding that anyone can be dealt with justly, and until we are there you support only injustice.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: aitm on November 24, 2015, 07:21:09 PM
I agree that society for the most part is completely off the rails in dealing with not just perceived pedo's but with the real ones. My brother in law got stoned and drunk and fingered his 13 year old niece. He turned himself in, and at the time when that was usually a 18 month sentence, and rape was two or three years, he ran into a judge running for State attorney  general and got 10 years and 20 probation. Now I have no problem with the sentence if everyone else was getting that. I convinced him to study auto-CAD in prison and when he got out I got his a position in a large design firm. the amount of crap he had to go through and still has to go thru now 18 years later, still amazes me. Though he has been exceptional in his behavior and does not appear to show interest in children, ( I have had many opportunities to watch his reaction around children when he didn't know anyone was looking and he really does not seem to exhibit any behavior that would alarm me).

While most studies have shown that most peso's are related to the victim, the overboard ridiculous programs that require fingerprinting and registering workers around schools even when the school is out is a hyperventilated over reaction.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on November 24, 2015, 08:29:03 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on November 24, 2015, 06:03:11 PMuntil we are there you support only injustice.
Calm your tits, kiddo. Lest you forget, we're on the same side (http://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=8540.msg1095164#msg1095164). And it would be really helpful for our side if you wouldn't scream your head off at the slightest provocation.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 24, 2015, 08:41:09 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on November 24, 2015, 08:29:03 PM
Calm your tits, kiddo. Lest you forget, we're on the same side (http://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=8540.msg1095164#msg1095164). And it would be really helpful for our side if you wouldn't scream your head off at the slightest provocation.
Thank you. Exactly.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 24, 2015, 08:41:55 PM
In fact, I almost said "calm your tits" in the previous response of mine haha.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on November 25, 2015, 01:46:16 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on November 24, 2015, 08:29:03 PM
Calm your tits, kiddo. Lest you forget, we're on the same side (http://atheistforums.com/index.php?topic=8540.msg1095164#msg1095164). And it would be really helpful for our side if you wouldn't scream your head off at the slightest provocation.
Who's screaming? I'm totally calm about this, just as I was when I started this thread, and before others started trying to shut it down with screams of Don't you compare gays to pedophiles!!!, which I was not doing. Then Pickelled Eggs, who always has and probably always will deny that his own shit stinks too, decided to take their side and throw his mod weight behind it (that sort of behavior is always inappropriate, the egghead be fired). No reason I should be upset, uh-uh, so why am I surprised not to be completely enraged?

Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Solitary on November 25, 2015, 03:02:26 PM
This topic reminds me of something that recently happened to me in California at a "SCIENCE" museum and school for anthropology and archeology. It was a federally funded charter school that had a woman speaker who claimed that gender is societal based and not biologically based and that people had a choice. This is the problem with charter schools, they have teachers that don't have to be qualified, and can teach religious conceived BS. I had to leave before my head exploded. One good thing, I think, is the kids can't graduate until they past all the tests, I wonder if the tests include the origin of the species? God did it----CORRECT!
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 25, 2015, 04:57:31 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on November 25, 2015, 01:46:16 PM
Who's screaming? I'm totally calm about this, just as I was when I started this thread, and before others started trying to shut it down with screams of Don't you compare gays to pedophiles!!!, which I was not doing. Then Pickelled Eggs, who always has and probably always will deny that his own shit stinks too, decided to take their side and throw his mod weight behind it (that sort of behavior is always inappropriate, the egghead be fired). No reason I should be upset, uh-uh, so why am I surprised not to be completely enraged?


Wtf are you talking about? How is advising that a discussion being kept calm "abusing mod poweres"?  Discuss whatever you want and take whichever position you want, just leave the insults to a minimum. No one needs a pissing match going on, derailing the thread to some shout-fest.  I'm pretty sure I was clear about that from the start.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on November 25, 2015, 04:58:17 PM
Quote from: Solitary on November 25, 2015, 03:02:26 PMIt was a federally funded charter school that had a woman speaker who claimed that gender is societal based and not biologically based and that people had a choice.
That's because gender actually is imposed by society. A lot of people use gender interchangeably with sex, but this is incorrect. Male and female refer to sex. Gender refers to terms like masculine and feminine. Some societies have more than two gendere (i.e. males and females are assigned multiple different roles within their sexes), and you can definitely choose your own gender. "Transgender" refers to someone identifying with a gender not traditionally associated with their sex. "Transexual" refers to someone who has undergone sex-reassignment.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on November 25, 2015, 06:07:15 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on November 25, 2015, 04:57:31 PM
Wtf are you talking about? How is advising that a discussion being kept calm "abusing mod poweres"?  Discuss whatever you want and take whichever position you want, just leave the insults to a minimum. No one needs a pissing match going on, derailing the thread to some shout-fest.  I'm pretty sure I was clear about that from the start.

I'm pretty sure you acted unnecessarily, and according to your personal bias.

"Calm your tits" - you know I'm starting to like that one!
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 25, 2015, 06:09:15 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on November 25, 2015, 06:07:15 PM
I'm pretty sure you acted unnecessarily, and according to your personal bias.

"Calm your tits" - you know I'm starting to like that one!
You're assuming I had any bias to begin with.

Sent from your mom.

Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: mauricio on November 25, 2015, 07:07:23 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on November 25, 2015, 04:58:17 PM
That's because gender actually is imposed by society. A lot of people use gender interchangeably with sex, but this is incorrect. Male and female refer to sex. Gender refers to terms like masculine and feminine. Some societies have more than two gendere (i.e. males and females are assigned multiple different roles within their sexes), and you can definitely choose your own gender. "Transgender" refers to someone identifying with a gender not traditionally associated with their sex. "Transexual" refers to someone who has undergone sex-reassignment.

IMO You cannot choose your own gender , but since gender is a pretty vague term anyway, actually define it first. If gender is an imposition upon you by society then you cannot choose it. If gender is a mental construction , neither does that imply you can choose it, otherwise transgender people would have no endogenous problems which they obviously do, since they could simply choose their gender and not have to take hormones, therapy and/or surgery. By definition of what gender dysphoria entails gender cannot be simply a choice that is nonsense. The relation between the body and the psique on the sexual realm is not really understood enough but I'm pretty sure you cannot simply will yourself into or out off your gender, it naturally emerges out of your structure, that's why we have evidence of anomalies (as in exceptions to the general trend) in structure of people with gender dysphoria and also homosexuals. And that is why trans people must modify their structure in order for them to stop being in distress, clearly taking hormones considerably affects your body and pisque, I would not call something that needs that type of treatment to change a matter of choice. Unless you use a literally meaningless definition of gender as in ''whatever this person says his gender is , then that is what it is.'' then it is not simply a choice.

what is gender? I have yet to see a definition of this that actually sounds like a proper and reliable description of reality.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on November 25, 2015, 07:20:21 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on November 25, 2015, 06:07:15 PM
I'm pretty sure you acted unnecessarily, and according to your personal bias.

"Calm your tits" - you know I'm starting to like that one!
Quote from: PickelledEggs on November 25, 2015, 06:09:15 PM
You're assuming I had any bias to begin with.

Sent from your mom.
(http://i.imgur.com/gKFaJQ2.jpg)
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on November 25, 2015, 07:49:10 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on November 25, 2015, 06:09:15 PM
You're assuming I had any bias to begin with.

Sent from your mom.
Bias - it's like opinions and assholes, and although some will deny having the latter, it's sure enough they do.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Baruch on November 25, 2015, 08:22:35 PM
But why does this one topic, need to be at the top?  Shall we entertain necrophilia explanations?  Not judging, just find it odd out of a million topics, this is the hot one ;-(
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on November 25, 2015, 08:40:58 PM
Quote from: Baruch on November 25, 2015, 08:22:35 PM
But why does this one topic, need to be at the top?  Shall we entertain necrophilia explanations?  Not judging, just find it odd out of a million topics, this is the hot one ;-(
Baruch, if you were one of the few whose lives are plagued by necrophilia, would social understanding of this condition become important to you, or would it not?

Anyway, there's nothing uncommon about pedophilia, and the victims aren't just the children who some (but not all of them) harm.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Baruch on November 25, 2015, 08:46:49 PM
Like the other poster who brought this up ... you need to consider how you share your feelings.

I agree that the Man is unjust, particularly for sex related offenses ... don't ask how I know ... but it would be better framed in that way, or other folks ... not you ... are going to keep posting pictures that I need therapy to forget ;-)
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: aitm on November 25, 2015, 10:12:19 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on November 25, 2015, 08:40:58 PM
Anyway, there's nothing uncommon about pedophilia,

I think this is closer to the truth and why so many people run from it. People have been raping "children" since….forever. The problem is the definition of "children". Today children are a definitive age group. A mere hundred years ago it was less clear and a thousand years children was pretty much any one pre pubescent. All the moral and righteous in the past had no problem fucking "kids".

Many today find child porn to be erotic but would never act upon it, yet this is now a great crime, even though no real crime has been committed other than watching a video. Much like our drug laws, we charge the end user when the producer walks by.

It has reached ridiculous heights to where a mother is charged for sexual battery when she merely asked a social worker if it was normal for her to get sexually aroused when her infant son was nursing, or when a father asked his doctor if he should stop showering with his two year old daughter when she would tug on "him".  The religious battery on sexuality takes many victims and lets many walk if they preach the preach.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: mauricio on November 26, 2015, 12:35:30 AM
Quote from: aitm on November 25, 2015, 10:12:19 PM
I think this is closer to the truth and why so many people run from it. People have been raping "children" since….forever. The problem is the definition of "children". Today children are a definitive age group. A mere hundred years ago it was less clear and a thousand years children was pretty much any one pre pubescent. All the moral and righteous in the past had no problem fucking "kids".

Many today find child porn to be erotic but would never act upon it, yet this is now a great crime, even though no real crime has been committed other than watching a video. Much like our drug laws, we charge the end user when the producer walks by.

It has reached ridiculous heights to where a mother is charged for sexual battery when she merely asked a social worker if it was normal for her to get sexually aroused when her infant son was nursing, or when a father asked his doctor if he should stop showering with his two year old daughter when she would tug on "him".  The religious battery on sexuality takes many victims and lets many walk if they preach the preach.

I'm pretty sure the majority of males are sexually attracted to post puber girls and maybe puber too, but they would not admit it for fear of being judged as a pedo. Also desire is a necessary but not sufficient characteristic for having a chronophilic disorder it also needs to be primary or exclusive, hard to control and cause distress.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on November 26, 2015, 09:07:13 AM
Quote from: aitm on November 25, 2015, 10:12:19 PMMany today find child porn to be erotic but would never act upon it, yet this is now a great crime, even though no real crime has been committed other than watching a video. Much like our drug laws, we charge the end user when the producer walks by.
I think this only applies to cartoons. If you're getting off to a real human being's torture at the hands of another person, you're enabling that torture.

In short, this is fine:

(http://img00.deviantart.net/57ab/i/2014/251/4/c/request__rwby_ship_by_ironkongstudios-d7yerl8.jpg)

This is not:

(http://successlawyers.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/254982-f7f37484-9a0a-11e3-a5ad-5f99c6c437b4.jpg)
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: peacewithoutgod on November 26, 2015, 11:04:04 AM
Quote from: Baruch on November 25, 2015, 08:46:49 PM
Like the other poster who brought this up ... you need to consider how you share your feelings.

I agree that the Man is unjust, particularly for sex related offenses ... don't ask how I know ... but it would be better framed in that way, or other folks ... not you ... are going to3 keep posting pictures that I need therapy to forget ;-)
Who were you addressing on that? What pictures?
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: aitm on November 26, 2015, 12:06:46 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on November 26, 2015, 09:07:13 AM
If you're getting off to a real human being's torture at the hands of another person, you're enabling that torture.


Only if I pay for it or if by viewing it, the producers are somehow rewarded. Walking by a window and seeing in on a tv would not in the least make me an enabler. I would be an enabler if I didn't call the cops on the person perhaps.
Title: Re: "I Am a Pedophile" Article
Post by: Baruch on November 26, 2015, 12:16:23 PM
Quote from: peacewithoutgod on November 26, 2015, 11:04:04 AM
Who were you addressing on that? What pictures?

Obsession is nobody's friend.  And I won't specify which pictures, there are plenty ... just open your eyes.

Americans are blood sucking puritans ... with sexual hangups ... but I am not trying to pick on anyone.