If you're not familiar with the band, RUSH, they're a Canadian band, who have been playing together since the early seventies. They are a three man band, consisting of a guitar player (Alex Lifeson), a singer/bass player/keyboard player (Geddy Lee), and a drummer (Neil Peart). The drummer is an atheist, and writes all the song lyrics. The drums take the foreground more than with most bands. They were recently inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
This song is one of their best, and really showcases the drums.
"https://www.youtube.com/embed/vNe2vTm7va4"
I recommend cranking up the volume!
"Totem Pole" is another one.
I saw Rush for the first time when they were touring their second album. They were lead-off group for KISS. "By-Tor and the Snow Dog" was very cool.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 21, 2015, 07:14:41 AM
"Totem Pole" is another one.
I saw Rush for the first time when they were touring their second album. They were lead-off group for KISS. "By-Tor and the Snow Dog" was very cool.
Didn't realize you were that OLD! I had you pegged as a young fella for some reason.
I saw them once. It was in the mid 80's for their "Hold Your Fire" tour.
Here's my favorite song from that album:
"https://www.youtube.com/embed/t0YwbAmCwz8"
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 21, 2015, 07:14:41 AM
"Totem Pole" is another one.
I saw Rush for the first time when they were touring their second album. They were lead-off group for KISS. "By-Tor and the Snow Dog" was very cool.
Solomon thought you were young. :) I recognized a crusty old Sea Salt when I read one! :) Yesterday, my grandson graduated from his Naval advanced training (forget what the Navy calls it) with honors--On Board Communication I think it is called. Next up for him after his 2 week furlough (now sure what the Navy calls it), it's on to his permanent station. The young man grew up fast!
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 21, 2015, 08:32:21 AM
Solomon thought you were young. :) I recognized a crusty old Sea Salt when I read one! :) Yesterday, my grandson graduated from his Naval advanced training (forget what the Navy calls it) with honors--On Board Communication I think it is called. Next up for him after his 2 week furlough (now sure what the Navy calls it), it's on to his permanent station. The young man grew up fast!
I had you pictured as middle aged, Mike. Are you a RUSH fan?
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 21, 2015, 08:32:21 AM
Solomon thought you were young. :) I recognized a crusty old Sea Salt when I read one! :) Yesterday, my grandson graduated from his Naval advanced training (forget what the Navy calls it) with honors--On Board Communication I think it is called. Next up for him after his 2 week furlough (now sure what the Navy calls it), it's on to his permanent station. The young man grew up fast!
Used to be "Internal Communications", IC rating. Good guys to know, they could get you cable.
And it's "leave", not furlough. The Navy uses more British terms than the Army, I think.
2112
Xanadu
The Trees
Cygnus X I
Bastille Day
Working Man
Red Barchetta
Cinderella Man
La Villa Strangiato
Passage To Bangkok
Something For Nothing
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on September 21, 2015, 08:46:49 AM
I had you pictured as middle aged, Mike. Are you a RUSH fan?
I like some of their stuff. I'm more of a Moody Blues, Pink Floyd, Butterfly, Steppenwolf, kind of guy, with a lot of Kitaro thrown in. :) Nope, not middle aged. Or if I am I'll live to 140. :))
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 21, 2015, 01:03:08 PM
Used to be "Internal Communications", IC rating. Good guys to know, they could get you cable.
And it's "leave", not furlough. The Navy uses more British terms than the Army, I think.
For some reason, I never really became comfortable with Navy nomenclature. I guess the grandkid can educate me.
went to 3 rush concerts so far
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on September 21, 2015, 06:50:22 PM
went to 3 rush concerts so far
I am very jealous. I had a chance to go to one and I got really sick and had to miss out.
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 21, 2015, 06:12:25 PM
For some reason, I never really became comfortable with Navy nomenclature. I guess the grandkid can educate me.
Tell him you got schooled by an MMC(SW). (http://rationalia.com/z/FIREdevil.gif)
Quote from: PickelledEggs on September 21, 2015, 07:39:36 PM
I am very jealous. I had a chance to go to one and I got really sick and had to miss out.
bummer
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 21, 2015, 07:41:35 PM
Tell him you got schooled by an MMC(SW). (http://rationalia.com/z/FIREdevil.gif)
I am assuming that that would be the equivalent of a high ranking SGT in the Army??
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 21, 2015, 09:30:08 PM
I am assuming that that would be the equivalent of a high ranking SGT in the Army??
There are nine enlisted ranks, E-1 through E-9. I was E-7 when I retired.
Here's a chart:
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I love me a bit of Rush - been a fan for nearly 30 years. :cool2:
Geddy Lee is of Jewish extraction, dunno whether he has any more affinity for it than a tip of the hat to clan loyalty though.
Anybody seen the docu "Beyond the Lighted Stage"? Currently on cable somewhere.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 22, 2015, 05:09:34 AM
There are nine enlisted ranks, E-1 through E-9. I was E-7 when I retired.
Here's a chart:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2d/3d/0f/2d3d0f7ff8580faed4e9922397e805cb.gif)
Thanks for the chart--I was too lazy to look it up. :) I too, was an E-7 when I 'retired'. Did not really retire, for I only had 12 yrs. in when I simply did not re-up. I was in the active reserve and saw the handwritting on the wall. The Army was taking a very hard look at 18-almost 20 yr. service members and giving them a hard time. Drumming out many, and the Army was in the process of shutting down many bases as well as giving retirees less and less. I figured by the time I got to 20----well, I wouldn't get there. And my branch was being given a new mission. But, even though I had a top secret clearance, I was not allowed to read the secret manual that spelled out what those new duties would be. I just knew that it entailed being married to an M-16--I was used to using a pencil and pad in my work; did not join the Army to fight. :)) Anyway, Chief, E-7 was a good rank to be.
"Baby sitter to future admirals" was how I put it to one officer. He was a tad miffed, but couldn't figure out how to protest effectively considering that I'd just saved his career.
Wasn't the drummer some sort of Randroid and many of the songs are about objectivism?
Quote from: CrucifyCindy on September 22, 2015, 11:38:54 AM
Wasn't the drummer some sort of Randroid and many of the songs are about objectivism?
Neil was a drummer. What he did when he wasn't drumming doesn't worry me. I'm not following the objectivism idea.
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 22, 2015, 09:08:47 AM
Thanks for the chart--I was too lazy to look it up. :) I too, was an E-7 when I 'retired'. Did not really retire, for I only had 12 yrs. in when I simply did not re-up. I was in the active reserve and saw the handwritting on the wall. The Army was taking a very hard look at 18-almost 20 yr. service members and giving them a hard time. Drumming out many, and the Army was in the process of shutting down many bases as well as giving retirees less and less. I figured by the time I got to 20----well, I wouldn't get there. And my branch was being given a new mission. But, even though I had a top secret clearance, I was not allowed to read the secret manual that spelled out what those new duties would be. I just knew that it entailed being married to an M-16--I was used to using a pencil and pad in my work; did not join the Army to fight. :)) Anyway, Chief, E-7 was a good rank to be.
My Navy son is an E-6 shooting for Chief, my oldest was an Army E-7 when they
kicked him out medically retired him after blowing him up, screwing up his back and nearly removing his leg in Iraq and Afghanistan. Y'all have my respect. Got out as an E-4, just barely. Almost didn't make that. Discipline issues, or something. didn't like my attitude. Might've been that "throw a punch at a Chief Petty Officer" thing......
Anybody in the service knows the senior noncoms are the guts, heart and soul of the military. And Gawd, I've seen more than once a senior NCO saved officer bacon. Seems like with officers the more privileged their background, the more likely they were to overload their asses.
Quote from: stromboli on September 22, 2015, 01:26:42 PM
My Navy son is an E-6 shooting for Chief, my oldest was an Army E-7 when they kicked him out medically retired him after blowing him up, screwing up his back and nearly removing his leg in Iraq and Afghanistan. Y'all have my respect. Got out as an E-4, just barely. Almost didn't make that. Discipline issues, or something. didn't like my attitude. Might've been that "throw a punch at a Chief Petty Officer" thing......
Anybody in the service knows the senior noncoms are the guts, heart and soul of the military. And Gawd, I've seen more than once a senior NCO saved officer bacon. Seems like with officers the more privileged their background, the more likely they were to overload their asses.
I feel for your son ex-Army type. The military is in the business of 'chew them up and get more'. I was afraid I would have been in the same position, so I just got out. Hope your Naval son gets his rank soon. E-7 is a good spot to be in in the military. If not for Nam, I am convinced that I would have made a career out of the Army. I would have tried for Warrant Officer. They kind of fit between NCO's and officers. Both leave them alone pretty much. They are an expert in a particular occupation--I would have shot for DAME and DASE--basically picking locks and keeping them from being picked. But my real take-away from the Army was the deep regard for the secretary when I began my career as a teacher. I made sure I was in tight with my support people; it did make life much easier. Same concept of the NCO makes the Army run--they do. I imagine the Navy is the same.
Guy I had the most respect for in the Navy was Glendenning, an E-9 Sonar Man Chief who was Chief of the Boat on the Washington. This dude was big, the 6'5" max for submarines, but really smart. He could chew your ass without ever using a cuss word and make you feel 3 inches high, or give you a compliment that made you want to reenlist. Awesome guy. there were a few NCO's I didn't get along with, but by and large the career guys were sharp and kept shit running. The Washington was an old boat and falling apart, but they kept it going. Had my second ship, the Marshall, been as good as the Washington, I probably would have stayed in. But the captain was a politicking asshole that would stab you in the back as look at you.
I saw the 2112 Tour in 76, Farewell to Kings in 77 and Hemispheres in 79 all in Alabama. Plus I know I saw them again in El Paso around 81 or 82 but I can't remember exactly when or what show it was.
Salutes to those who serve and those who served. I'm currently listed at 100% disabled with the VA. One doctor said I got 100% because they didn't have anything higher. Meh, shit happens, then you die.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 22, 2015, 03:04:01 PM
Salutes to those who serve and those who served. I'm currently listed at 100% disabled with the VA. One doctor said I got 100% because they didn't have anything higher. Meh, shit happens, then you die.
Too bad about the disability. But you are right--shit happens and then you die. Sums it up. I was forced to record fire with my .32 police special without ear plugs. There were 8 of us and we fired 75 rounds each--the next day I could not hear my phone on my desk ring. To this day, I have the sound of crickets constantly in my ears. But can't prove the Army was in the wrong. So, shit happens and then you die. I got over it--but still hear the crickets.
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 22, 2015, 03:34:27 PM
Too bad about the disability. But you are right--shit happens and then you die. Sums it up. I was forced to record fire with my .32 police special without ear plugs. There were 8 of us and we fired 75 rounds each--the next day I could not hear my phone on my desk ring. To this day, I have the sound of crickets constantly in my ears. But can't prove the Army was in the wrong. So, shit happens and then you die. I got over it--but still hear the crickets.
Tinnitus is no fun. As a genuine faux medical professional I proscribe cannabis, in large amounts.
I used to swing twin .50 cal. Brownings in a power tub with no hearing protection. I still have flat spots in my tests.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 22, 2015, 04:48:07 PM
Tinnitus is no fun. As a genuine faux medical professional I proscribe cannabis, in large amounts.
I used to swing twin .50 cal. Brownings in a power tub with no hearing protection. I still have flat spots in my tests.
Holy shit--.50 cals??? I really don't understand how you can even hear now. I test fired a .50 cal once--with protection. It was loud even then.
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 22, 2015, 05:34:08 PM
Holy shit--.50 cals??? I really don't understand how you can even hear now. I test fired a .50 cal once--with protection. It was loud even then.
The docs were wondering the same thing, but the baby cannons were just so much music to me. Eighty-two pounds of lead a minute out of each barrel at full rock-and-roll. (Theoretical, that would fuck up the barrels a bit.)
Apologies to the OP for the epic derail. War stories are contagious.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 22, 2015, 05:42:14 PM
The docs were wondering the same thing, but the baby cannons were just so much music to me. Eighty-two pounds of lead a minute out of each barrel at full rock-and-roll. (Theoretical, that would fuck up the barrels a bit.)
After my regular Army stint, I joined the local NG. It was during that 3 yr. period that I got to play with 'toys' like the .50 cal. Also got to play with a combat shotgun, a Thompson sub-machine gun. an uzi, a 9mm auto pistol, a .45 pistol, and of course, the ever popular M-16. That was fun! But I was happy to spend the next 6 yrs back in the Mil. Intell.
Quote from: CrucifyCindy on September 22, 2015, 11:38:54 AM
Wasn't the drummer some sort of Randroid and many of the songs are about objectivism?
He calls himself a "bleeding heart Libertarian." I don't agree with all the political stuff, but I didn't agree with all of John Lennon's politics either. Neil Peart is a virtually peerless drummer, and I like the anti-religious themes.
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on September 22, 2015, 06:41:49 PM
He calls himself a "bleeding heart Libertarian." I don't agree with all the political stuff, but I didn't agree with all of John Lennon's politics either. Neil Peart is a virtually peerless drummer, and I like the anti-religious themes.
Help me out and list some songs with libertarian attitudes, please? Anybody?
Sol we went from Rush the band through military memories back to Rush and then Libertarian. Let's see, pick an appropriate smiley.........
:think:
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 22, 2015, 06:46:09 PM
Help me out and list some songs with libertarian attitudes, please? Anybody?
Not sure that I could. He does describe himself that way, though, in an interview I read. I guess 2112 is based on Ayn Rand's work, though I couldn't say for sure, as I haven't read her work.
The songs, "Second Nature" and "Prime Mover" might qualify, but that might be my own interpretation.
"https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZGwGR1BltFo"
"https://www.youtube.com/embed/kHUfEyakl7E"
Quote from: Solomon Zorn on September 21, 2015, 06:57:09 AM
If you're not familiar with the band, RUSH, they're a Canadian band, who have been playing together since the early seventies. They are a three man band, consisting of a guitar player (Alex Lifeson), a singer/bass player/keyboard player (Geddy Lee), and a drummer (Neil Peart). The drummer is an atheist, and writes all the song lyrics. The drums take the foreground more than with most bands. They were recently inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
This song is one of their best, and really showcases the drums.
"https://www.youtube.com/embed/vNe2vTm7va4"
I recommend cranking up the volume!
No it's not "a drummer Neil Peart, it's
THE drummer Neil Peart :)
Not seeing that as Libertarian. Oh well.
I saw them a total of 3 times. Twice in the 80's. Once on their recent R40 tour. They say this is this is their last major tour. Lifeson has arthritis and Peart has tendinitis. They say they may still work together and do some stuff, but no more major tourgs.
I went ahead and read the Wikipedia page, learned some things. Like they have had the same lineup for 40 years, hence the "R40" name of the tour. But, it is not the original lineup. The song, "Working Man" was on their first album with a different drummer. The first two times I saw Rush, they didn't play "Working Man", but, it was their last song of the encore this tour, including the final show. So, if that does turn out to be their last ever concert, then the last song Peart performed with Rush wasn't one of his songs.
And, I guess they aren't working men anymore...
Also, the band took about 5 years off. Peart's wife and daughter died, I think one in car crash and one from cancer, not certain if I recall correctly. In any case, Peart told the band he was retired. But, they didn't try to replace him and he remarried and decided to join the band again. I guess when Peart is married, he needs to tour to get out of the house, LOL.
Quote from: caseagainstfaith on October 03, 2015, 04:01:33 PM
Also, the band took about 5 years off. Peart's wife and daughter died, I think one in car crash and one from cancer, not certain if I recall correctly.
Yup, Peart wrote a book called 'Ghost Rider' about his motorbike-based travels on the road to getting over the double tragedy. Quite a read!