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Title: Legislation..American style..ALEC style actually
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 26, 2015, 10:45:22 PM
This is how it works all around the nation with the GOP.
http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/investigations/2015/05/21/investigators-legislators-and-corporate-lobbyists-meet-in-secret-at-georgia-resort/27695105/
Local news station blew the lid off ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) in Georgia.
Title: Re: Legislation..American style..ALEC style actually
Post by: drunkenshoe on May 27, 2015, 01:58:47 PM
Quote"The corporations that are there have equal standing with the legislators," Sen. Orrock said.

"You mean they can vote?" we asked.

"They absolutely can vote, and truth be told, they write the bills," she answered, referring to the lobbyists.

There really are back rooms where corporate lobbyists have direct access to lawmakers completely out of sight, with no transparency or public filings. They're also wined and dined after hours at these events with nothing recorded on ethics reports.

Keefe: "Why can't the people who elected them see the process?"
Meierling: "This is a private meeting."
Keefe: "A private meeting paid for by whom?"
Meierling: "By our members and donors."
Keefe: "..are lobbyists, correct?"
Meierling: "No."
Keefe: "They're not lobbyists, the ones that we recorded in the bar last night aren't lobbyists that are here as members?"

At that point the ALEC vice president clasped his hands, closed his eyes, and let out a sigh. He then called over the pack of four deputies without saying another word.

Sheriff's Deputy: "I'm going to have to ask you to leave."
Keefe: "Alright, I'm a guest of the hotel sir."
Sheriff's Deputy: "Not for long. Not for long."
Keefe: "I'm a paying guest of this hotel sir."
Sheriff's Deputy: "We'll take care of that."
Second Deputy: "We'll escort you up to your room and you can get your things."

The deputies called for the hotel manager who ultimately kicked us out of our hotel room for "taking pictures in the hotel."

I asked the deputies, "did we violate some law or something? I mean are we violating a law?"

The first deputy ignored my question and turned to the second deputy telling him, "Don't say nothing."
Title: Re: Legislation..American style..ALEC style actually
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 27, 2015, 03:07:23 PM
Ain't dumbocracy great?
Title: Re: Legislation..American style..ALEC style actually
Post by: drunkenshoe on May 27, 2015, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on May 27, 2015, 03:07:23 PM
Ain't dumbocracy great?

I don't say nothing. Then I am the evil, communist, satanist, patakist and takakist chick who hates 'Murrica.
Title: Re: Legislation..American style..ALEC style actually
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 27, 2015, 06:55:39 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on May 27, 2015, 03:54:04 PM
I don't say nothing. Then I am the evil, communist, satanist, patakist and takakist chick who hates 'Murrica.
Wait,  what happened to the man hating c...c.... ? I miss her.. :lol:
Title: Re: Legislation..American style..ALEC style actually
Post by: Sal1981 on May 31, 2015, 05:56:46 PM
Lobbyism at its finest.
Title: Re: Legislation..American style..ALEC style actually
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 31, 2015, 07:23:14 PM
At least the patriot act and mass surveillance seems to be on the wain. It'll probably go on, but not nearly as "legal" as it was.