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Title: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: 1liesalot on May 13, 2015, 08:53:15 PM



(http://cf.chucklesnetwork.agj.co/items/1/5/3/5/9/1/god-y-u-hate-me.jpg)

As an atheist, I don't have to worry about any of this shit but here are some questions for believers about the nature; character and motivation of their so called savior. I keep asking them but they don't seem to have answers.

What was God's objective when he embarked on his creation project? Why did he bother when he already knew it would cause trouble .


And why aren't you afraid of the fact that your God is consistently depicted as a psychopathic, narcissistic, peeping tom twisted by hate and bile and rage. Why do you give constant, fawning praise to this monster? For what? For killing everyone in a flood and sending us shit like leprosy and Bubonic Plague and Polio. For expecting us to thank him for gifting us earthquakes and tsunami's and soldiers capable of raping and killing babies.


More to the point, why would you even want the twat to exist?



Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: stromboli on May 13, 2015, 09:15:52 PM
When the concept of god was created, ultimately the question arose as to why he created us. There are probably many answers, but the most consistent one is that we were created to worship him. Why a perfect, beyond understanding all inclusive god who can do literally anything needs to be worshiped, I do not know. But that does lend itself as evidence that god is made up, since creating us for the sole purpose of worship would indicate he is vain, which is a human quality.

Consider that famous and wealthy and narcissistic people want to be looked up to, i.e. worshiped, one can conclude that was attributed to god. 
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Solitary on May 14, 2015, 11:05:19 PM
God or gods, and creation are all assumptions looking for proof, which ultimately are conformation biased beliefs, which may, or may not be true. Solitary
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: stromboli on May 14, 2015, 11:46:47 PM
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/b9/b902c66fd123c2766dde786095ca55a156ca91f3fe7598d90ed3611c071dd471.jpg)


Actually that is a lever action..... :think:
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on May 15, 2015, 01:22:31 AM
The simple answer is that he started out as part of a pantheon, and later his name was given to every member of that pantheon, even though he was originally just the god of war. Also, no attempt was ever made to retcon the reasons for man's creation to match the new monotheistic system.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Atheon on May 15, 2015, 01:30:24 AM
Assuming gawd exists, and that he's bible-gawd:

He needed to be worshipped and obeyed.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: SGOS on May 15, 2015, 07:32:35 AM
When you are an all powerful being that craves worship and thirsts for ultimate control, and you are sitting there in an empty universe all by yourself with no one to meet your needs and grovel at your feet, you would have few options but to create a race of underlings that you could push around and use to satisfy your ego.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Termin on May 15, 2015, 11:28:48 AM

For sake of argument I can think of two logical reasons

It was an accident.
He was bored.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Munch on May 15, 2015, 11:34:13 AM
Being a fictional character and having known a lot of fictional characters of a similar nature, I believe it can come down to the fact of his own vanity, God loved himself so much he made tiny versions of himself he could mess with, play around with, as his personal amusement.

I really still cannot fathom the depth of ignorance in faith worshipers in the modern day, not to even look at what this cult made fairy tale being actually does, these people who cherry pick parts from their own faith to use against those who don't follow it, while missing out other parts that would contradict there own beliefs.

Ah, but i'm just letting off steam here.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: AtheistLemon on June 01, 2015, 01:30:27 PM
While I was still a creationist, I believed in the stupid excuse of "God works in mysterious ways" as an explanation of why he created us. Later, when I began to think more logically after learning of evolution, I started to suspect that our creation was more or less an accident and God was simply experimenting with evolution.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: SGOS on June 01, 2015, 01:48:38 PM
"God works in mysterious ways" always struck me as the ultimate explanation for any contradiction, illogic, or simply anything that makes absolutely no sense about God.  You can fall back on this explanation for anything.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Munch on June 01, 2015, 02:42:02 PM
I like to imagine, that the idea of god came about, when a tribal villager had contracted a lethal shitting disease, where he kept shitting and anything eh ate just came right back out, so he was slowly dying. On his rather potent death bed, he began to have 'visions', since he was the village wise man, which really where just bad memories of his father raping his sister, but the 'visions' translated into these made up characters, which the local medicine man wrote down, and spread the word about it.

Yes, i like to imagine god came about because of a shitting virus.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: drunkenshoe on June 01, 2015, 02:43:27 PM
Quote from: Atheon on May 15, 2015, 01:30:24 AM
Assuming gawd exists, and that he's bible-gawd:

He needed to be worshipped and obeyed.

Like a human male. :lol:
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: GSOgymrat on June 01, 2015, 02:50:57 PM
I like the idea that the Universe split itself into tiny little fragments so it could understand was it was.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Lategreatplanet on June 01, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
To demonstrate love in action via His salvation provision which is on behalf of each individual which was done at great cost. Think of Christ bearing the penalty of sin personally on a infinite timeline that was created for each person individually which was executed by His capability to compress infinity to a non-infinite time. Everyone's name is written in the Book-of-life, but some are expunged since by committing the unpardonable sin (which committed upon their death) of not accepting this was done on their behalf. Those persons will have their name expunged from that book which are opened at the Great White Throne Judgment. Those that believe this was done on their behalf, appear at the Judgment Seat of Christ. So, in the end, everyone stands before the Moral Ruler of the universe. Also, humans were created for the education of the Angels ("which things the angels desire to look into"). The reason God doesn't get bored is because of the Trinity (3 Persons sharing one divine nature).
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Munch on June 01, 2015, 05:22:49 PM
Oh look, fresh meet just walked on in without so much as a hello.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Mike Cl on June 01, 2015, 05:24:26 PM
Quote from: Lategreatplanet on June 01, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
To demonstrate love in action via His salvation provision which is on behalf of each individual which was done at great cost. Think of Christ bearing the penalty of sin personally on a infinite timeline that was created for each person individually which was executed by His capability to compress infinity to a non-infinite time. Everyone's name is written in the Book-of-life, but some are expunged since by committing the unpardonable sin (which committed upon their death) of not accepting this was done on their behalf. Those persons will have their name expunged from that book which are opened at the Great White Throne Judgment. Those that believe this was done on their behalf, appear at the Judgment Seat of Christ. So, in the end, everyone stands before the Moral Ruler of the universe. Also, humans were created for the education of the Angels ("which things the angels desire to look into"). The reason God doesn't get bored is because of the Trinity (3 Persons sharing one divine nature).
Ahhh--Comedy Central came for a visit. :))))))))))  Welcome!
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on June 01, 2015, 05:37:02 PM
As a kid I was told it was because god was lonely. But then I wondered what exactly made him so goddamned lonely after several billion or trillions of years..  Seems like he had a perfectly fine hobby just making planets and stars and so on, but the story goes that none of that was around until just a few days before.. So let's recap.. Bored, makes planets and stars, gets really fucking lonely, makes Adam, rips out a rib for Eve, waits an undetermined time, kills everyone else except Noah and his bunch and promises to do it again except with fire next time, but next time gets to blame it on the Mooslims!
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on June 01, 2015, 05:37:46 PM
Quote from: Lategreatplanet on June 01, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
To demonstrate love in action via His salvation provision which is on behalf of each individual which was done at great cost. Think of Christ bearing the penalty of sin personally on a infinite timeline that was created for each person individually which was executed by His capability to compress infinity to a non-infinite time. Everyone's name is written in the Book-of-life, but some are expunged since by committing the unpardonable sin (which committed upon their death) of not accepting this was done on their behalf. Those persons will have their name expunged from that book which are opened at the Great White Throne Judgment. Those that believe this was done on their behalf, appear at the Judgment Seat of Christ. So, in the end, everyone stands before the Moral Ruler of the universe. Also, humans were created for the education of the Angels ("which things the angels desire to look into"). The reason God doesn't get bored is because of the Trinity (3 Persons sharing one divine nature).
Oh look, a drive-by theist.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: PickelledEggs on June 01, 2015, 05:44:50 PM
Quote from: Lategreatplanet on June 01, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
To demonstrate love in action via His salvation provision which is on behalf of each individual which was done at great cost. Think of Christ bearing the penalty of sin personally on a infinite timeline that was created for each person individually which was executed by His capability to compress infinity to a non-infinite time. Everyone's name is written in the Book-of-life, but some are expunged since by committing the unpardonable sin (which committed upon their death) of not accepting this was done on their behalf. Those persons will have their name expunged from that book which are opened at the Great White Throne Judgment. Those that believe this was done on their behalf, appear at the Judgment Seat of Christ. So, in the end, everyone stands before the Moral Ruler of the universe. Also, humans were created for the education of the Angels ("which things the angels desire to look into"). The reason God doesn't get bored is because of the Trinity (3 Persons sharing one divine nature).
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on June 01, 2015, 05:50:13 PM
Hey, if I vote Republican can I go to heaven?
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: AtheistLemon on June 02, 2015, 12:47:08 AM
Quote from: Lategreatplanet on June 01, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
To demonstrate love in action via His salvation provision which is on behalf of each individual which was done at great cost. Think of Christ bearing the penalty of sin personally on a infinite timeline that was created for each person individually which was executed by His capability to compress infinity to a non-infinite time. Everyone's name is written in the Book-of-life, but some are expunged since by committing the unpardonable sin (which committed upon their death) of not accepting this was done on their behalf. Those persons will have their name expunged from that book which are opened at the Great White Throne Judgment. Those that believe this was done on their behalf, appear at the Judgment Seat of Christ. So, in the end, everyone stands before the Moral Ruler of the universe. Also, humans were created for the education of the Angels ("which things the angels desire to look into"). The reason God doesn't get bored is because of the Trinity (3 Persons sharing one divine nature).
But if that's true, then why does God value humans more than angels if humans are simply a teaching device?
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Lategreatplanet on June 02, 2015, 01:44:03 AM
"Oh look, a drive-by theist."
Just driving by to see what you low-lives were doing, and of course, you were yammering way like crows.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Hydra009 on June 02, 2015, 02:10:42 AM
Quote from: Lategreatplanet on June 02, 2015, 01:44:03 AM
"Oh look, a drive-by theist."
Just driving by to see what you low-lives were doing, and of course, you were yammering way like crows.
Cows don't yammer, you're thinking yams.  Common mistake.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: drunkenshoe on June 02, 2015, 02:52:29 AM
The God character is not a psycho, it is a classical landlord. A male monarch ruling with absolutes. Because it is created by male landlords in their own image. It imposes their desires.

It evolved through human history according how to scare them to obey, use. When people stop being scared of thunder, they won't worship the force behind it. Then you need to invent something they can recognise to be scared of. I don't mean it is a conspiracy, it just happens by itself. Fear is the most powerful human reality.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Odoital778412 on June 02, 2015, 03:36:32 AM
For our benefit and His glory.  With respect to the Christian concept of God, it would be impossible for Him to experience boredom, as He has no needs or otherwise experiences no lacking in any area of His being.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: drunkenshoe on June 02, 2015, 04:40:41 AM
Quoteit would be impossible for Him to experience boredom,

I thought your god was omnipotent and nothing was impossible for him, that he was capable of knowing everything at the same time. How does an entity who doesn't experience boredom can create a creature that can feel it?
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Mike Cl on June 02, 2015, 09:10:08 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 02, 2015, 02:52:29 AM
The God character is not a psycho, it is a classical landlord. A male monarch ruling with absolutes. Because it is created by male landlords in their own image. It imposes their desires.

It evolved through human history according how to scare them to obey, use. When people stop being scared of thunder, they won't worship the force behind it. Then you need to invent something they can recognise to be scared of. I don't mean it is a conspiracy, it just happens by itself. Fear is the most powerful human reality.
I totally agree, that christianity did not grow as a conspiracy.  It grew by natural selection.  The early christian sect was, of course, totally made up of Jews in the beginning.  The Jewish society was awash in sects of Jews looking for a messiah.  Apparently this was a bit of a fad.  There were so many, that not all of them could survive in the long run--one or two had to come out on top.  Christianity was one that came out on top.  We have little to none of the literature the other sects generated not because the christians conspired to destroy it, but they chose to ignore, change or not use it.  And it slowly disappeared. 

I think you landlord analogy holds water.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on June 02, 2015, 09:28:47 AM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 02, 2015, 02:52:29 AM
The God character is not a psycho, it is a classical landlord. A male monarch ruling with absolutes. Because it is created by male landlords in their own image. It imposes their desires.

It evolved through human history according how to scare them to obey, use. When people stop being scared of thunder, they won't worship the force behind it. Then you need to invent something they can recognise to be scared of. I don't mean it is a conspiracy, it just happens by itself. Fear is the most powerful human reality.
Maybe that's why god made Eddie Murphy. .:think:
https://youtu.be/hZ0up_MjsLk
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Sal1981 on June 02, 2015, 10:18:19 AM
Quote from: Lategreatplanet on June 01, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
To demonstrate love in action via His salvation provision which is on behalf of each individual which was done at great cost. Think of Christ bearing the penalty of sin personally on a infinite timeline that was created for each person individually which was executed by His capability to compress infinity to a non-infinite time. Everyone's name is written in the Book-of-life, but some are expunged since by committing the unpardonable sin (which committed upon their death) of not accepting this was done on their behalf. Those persons will have their name expunged from that book which are opened at the Great White Throne Judgment. Those that believe this was done on their behalf, appear at the Judgment Seat of Christ. So, in the end, everyone stands before the Moral Ruler of the universe. Also, humans were created for the education of the Angels ("which things the angels desire to look into"). The reason God doesn't get bored is because of the Trinity (3 Persons sharing one divine nature).
wat
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on June 02, 2015, 05:40:13 PM
Quote from: Lategreatplanet on June 02, 2015, 01:44:03 AM
"Oh look, a drive-by theist."
Just driving by to see what you low-lives were doing, and of course, you were yammering way like crows.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tOJ0BeW5vXw/TPMTu5Ih5KI/AAAAAAAAAAM/DJp86ZUDrfg/s1600/Butthurt.PNG)
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: drunkenshoe on June 02, 2015, 06:26:39 PM
Quote from: Lategreatplanet on June 01, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
The reason God doesn't get bored is because of the Trinity (3 Persons sharing one divine nature).

Every entity is bound to get bored from a threesome, sooner or later, supreme or not. There is a thing called too much of a good stuff. Besides, you can't change partners. Peh.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: 1liesalot on June 02, 2015, 10:58:37 PM
Just curious.....
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: Johan on June 02, 2015, 11:27:23 PM
Because he doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: kilodelta on June 02, 2015, 11:40:19 PM
...if he did exist, he'd be a jerk.
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on June 03, 2015, 12:37:04 AM
/thread
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
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Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: PickelledEggs on June 03, 2015, 01:14:32 AM
1lie. Stop making these spammy threads that involve nonexistent situations.

Merging....
Title: Re: Does anyone know why God created us? Was he bored?
Post by: MagetheEntertainer on June 06, 2015, 01:52:42 PM
I was watching the young turks a while back, and they were covering a story about a couple that had a child for the sole purpose of letting the dad rape it, so if I had to guess God would have created humans for the sole purpose of fucking with them.