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Title: Does anyone remember 90s rock band "Living Colour"?
Post by: Brian37 on March 08, 2013, 09:36:48 AM
If Hendrix and Hetfield and Vernon Reid auditioned for a band I was starting I would pick Reid. Living Colour kicked ass and unfortunately was undervalued. They are most famous for "Cult Of Personality".
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Post by: _Xenu_ on March 08, 2013, 09:42:04 AM
Yes, I'm familiar with that song, but I didn't know who performed it until now.
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Post by: Brian37 on March 08, 2013, 09:56:25 AM
Quote from: "_Xenu_"Yes, I'm familiar with that song, but I didn't know who performed it until now.

Now you know. And I was lucky enough to see them perform at a club called the "9:30" club in Washington DC.
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Post by: billhilly on March 08, 2013, 11:56:28 AM
I bet that was a hell of a show.  I saw them do a live show on tv back in the day.  Reid is a monster guitar player.



To address your post about this in the other thread, I agree that Reid is a much better guitar player than Hendrix was.  Personal taste aside, Reid has better chops than Hendrix.  That said, Hendrix is much more famous than Reid because he was a pioneer.  He was the first to play rock/blues the way he did.  Even in his day he wasn't as technically accomplished as say, Hank Garland, Charlie Christian, etc. but he came up with some amazing innovations.

Chuck Berry was the same kind of deal as was Eddie Van Halen.   Nobody could believe his playing when their first album came out, now you can't go into a Guitar Center without hearing some 14 year old kid playing Eruption.  The bar keeps getting moved.
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Post by: the_antithesis on March 08, 2013, 12:02:49 PM
Kind of weird as I was thinking about them just the other day.
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Post by: BarkAtTheMoon on March 08, 2013, 12:57:49 PM
Quote from: "billhilly"To address your post about this in the other thread, I agree that Reid is a much better guitar player than Hendrix was.  Personal taste aside, Reid has better chops than Hendrix.  That said, Hendrix is much more famous than Reid because he was a pioneer.  He was the first to play rock/blues the way he did.  Even in his day he wasn't as technically accomplished as say, Hank Garland, Charlie Christian, etc. but he came up with some amazing innovations.
This. Hendrix has never been a legend because he was a technically savvy guitarist. IIRC he taught himself how to play by ear, upside down on a right handed guitar no less, so it's not surprising he wasn't the best technical guitarists. What he did do was innovate and experiment doing things nobody had ever thought of trying before, like messing with distortion ala the national anthem at Woodstock, and nearly every rock guitarist since then can trace among their influences directly back to him.
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Post by: billhilly on March 08, 2013, 01:14:06 PM
Hendrix washed out of the army's music school and that's how he ended up in the 82'd.  As for his innovations, it wasn't just distortion.  He completely reinvented the use of the double stop.  Everything Stevie Ray Vaughn did was a variation on a Hendrix theme.
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Post by: Brian37 on March 08, 2013, 01:16:14 PM
Quote from: "the_antithesis"Kind of weird as I was thinking about them just the other day.

Sample rate error and selection bias. I am quite sure the band members and their hardcore fans think of them far more frequently. Completely coincidence.
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Post by: Brian37 on March 08, 2013, 01:18:10 PM
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Quote from: "billhilly"To address your post about this in the other thread, I agree that Reid is a much better guitar player than Hendrix was.  Personal taste aside, Reid has better chops than Hendrix.  That said, Hendrix is much more famous than Reid because he was a pioneer.  He was the first to play rock/blues the way he did.  Even in his day he wasn't as technically accomplished as say, Hank Garland, Charlie Christian, etc. but he came up with some amazing innovations.
This. Hendrix has never been a legend because he was a technically savvy guitarist. IIRC he taught himself how to play by ear, upside down on a right handed guitar no less, so it's not surprising he wasn't the best technical guitarists. What he did do was innovate and experiment doing things nobody had ever thought of trying before, like messing with distortion ala the national anthem at Woodstock, and nearly every rock guitarist since then can trace among their influences directly back to him.

I am not trying to take away from Hendrix. I am saying all things being equal, if Reid and Hendrix were to audition with what we know today, I would hedge my bets on Reid.
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Post by: Mathias on March 08, 2013, 01:36:18 PM
There is no way to compare Hendrix with most modern guitarists because he influenced everyone after him. What did he do with the resources he had and with his autodidactism, today is something intangible, unless that the guitar, pedals and amps would have to be reinvented in a very radical way, and, of course, if another genius born...
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Post by: Brian37 on March 08, 2013, 01:50:40 PM
Quote from: "Mathias"There is no way to compare Hendrix with most modern guitarists because he influenced everyone after him. What did he do with the resources he had and with his autodidactism, today is something intangible, unless that the guitar, pedals and amps would have to be reinvented in a very radical way, and, of course, if another genius born...

Completely disagree. For the reasons I stated. IF IF IF all things are equal and both were to audition I would pick Reid way before Hendrix.
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Post by: Jmpty on March 08, 2013, 02:12:14 PM
Vernon plays alot like Larry LaLonde, from Primus. They are both pretty good, but neither of them have done anything out of the ordinary.
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Post by: Mister Agenda on March 08, 2013, 03:07:51 PM
One of my favorite songs. Now it's in my head again.
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Post by: Jmpty on March 08, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
And they can't hold a candle to this guy.
http://youtu.be/hzHtb-J701c (http://youtu.be/hzHtb-J701c)
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Post by: Brian37 on March 08, 2013, 04:05:55 PM
Quote from: "Jmpty"Vernon plays alot like Larry LaLonde, from Primus. They are both pretty good, but neither of them have done anything out of the ordinary.

No Vernon did, but he did not get noticed.
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Post by: Jmpty on March 08, 2013, 05:54:28 PM
That's the nice thing about music; everyone can like what they like.
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Post by: NeoLogic26 on March 09, 2013, 02:12:27 AM
I heard about these guys and their probably most notable song "Cult of Personality" by playing GTA: San Andreas. It was one of the songs on the Radio X station.
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Post by: Brian37 on March 09, 2013, 06:34:39 AM
Yea that is the song they are known for.
Title: Re: Does anyone remember 90s rock band "Living Colour"?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on March 09, 2013, 10:34:42 AM
Fuck you Brian.. I'm writing the ABBA fan club right now to tell them you've been cheating on them. YOUUUUU DIRTY bastard! :evil:
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Post by: Thumpalumpacus on March 09, 2013, 03:57:06 PM
I love Vernon's playing.  He's a big influence on my own playing.  I love Reid's note choices.  He did not get stuck in pentatonic boxes, that's for sure.  I'm also a big fan of Jimi's.  Hetfield is a great metal guitarist, but I think is by far the most limited of the three stylistically.  

LC's second album, Time's Up, is my favorite.
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Post by: Mathias on March 11, 2013, 02:45:42 PM
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Quote from: "Mathias"There is no way to compare Hendrix with most modern guitarists because he influenced everyone after him. What did he do with the resources he had and with his autodidactism, today is something intangible, unless that the guitar, pedals and amps would have to be reinvented in a very radical way, and, of course, if another genius born...

Completely disagree. For the reasons I stated. IF IF IF all things are equal and both were to audition I would pick Reid way before Hendrix.


But they are not equal and what you choose does not change the "time" factor that exists between them. This is anachronism.
I could quote great guitarists who were influenced by Hendrix and he had no previous reference when comparing what Reid did.
"But IF IF IF yet all things are equal", I would have invented active bass pickup and discovered  E=MC².

As my dad said, the cemetery is full of "ifs": if she were a doctor instead of church...:)