No, really. (//http://latino-review.com/2013/02/15/exclusive-harrison-ford-return-han-solo-star-wars-episode-vii/) It's still rumor at this point, but a rumor from a source that's proved reliable in the past, I guess.
This is like the Eagles getting back together or something. Wait, that's dated. This is like the Talking Heads getting back together or something. I had thought Harrison Ford had sworn of doing any more Star Wars more than anyone else involved in that franchise besides Alec Guinness. What is it about J.J. Abrams that would encourage Ford to don the blouse and vest again? Does Abrams have a purdy little mouth?
Try as I might to avoid or just not care about the upcoming Star Wars flicks, I learn something new that makes me go, "Man what?" I don't even know what they could announce at this point that would surprise me.
Sad thing is the fanboy will get excited about this even though they got excited about seeing Darth Vader in the trailer for Revenge of the Sith and we all saw how that turned out. Fanboys never fucking learn. I guess if they learned, they wouldn't be fanboys. Still, I can't wait to hear all the fapping over this one. No, really.
Damn. They must be placing this one pretty far into the future if they're casting Harrison Ford again.
Quote from: "the_antithesis"Sad thing is the fanboy will get excited about this even though they got excited about seeing Darth Vader in the trailer for Revenge of the Sith and we all saw how that turned out. Fanboys never fucking learn. I guess if they learned, they wouldn't be fanboys. Still, I can't wait to hear all the fapping over this one. No, really.
That's a valid point, but IMO Han Solo was exactly what Ep 1-3 was missing. A relatable, average joe character with sarcastic humor played by someone who can actually act. That last Indiana Jones movie doesn't give me a ton of hope of Harrison Ford really playing it with gusto, but really, having him can't possibly make 7 any worse than what was already done with 1-3. When Jar Jar fucking Binks is your comic relief....
That is a plus in my book... I may regret my words later. So, "fuck you" in advance.
I hear Mark Hamil is trying to get in on it too. I don't think he will work out as well Harrison Ford would.
My optimism seems to be paying off. Getting JJ Adams on board shows that Disney respects the franchise. He would honestly be my first choice.
Quote from: "asshat"I hear Mark Hamil is trying to get in on it too. I don't think he will work out as well Harrison Ford would.
Hamil's done a lot of good stuff in recent years, though. He's awesome as the voice of Joker in the Arkham Batman games.
Quote from: "BarkAtTheMoon"Quote from: "asshat"I hear Mark Hamil is trying to get in on it too. I don't think he will work out as well Harrison Ford would.
Hamil's done a lot of good stuff in recent years, though. He's awesome as the voice of Joker in the Arkham Batman games.
He has done some good stuff, I just think he doesn't really look like Luke anymore. Ford still looks like Solo.
Quote from: "asshat"Quote from: "BarkAtTheMoon"Quote from: "asshat"I hear Mark Hamil is trying to get in on it too. I don't think he will work out as well Harrison Ford would.
Hamil's done a lot of good stuff in recent years, though. He's awesome as the voice of Joker in the Arkham Batman games.
He has done some good stuff, I just think he doesn't really look like Luke anymore. Ford still looks like Solo.
You should see what happened to Princess Leia
Are we pretending that Star Wars was good because of the writing? It doesn't matter who plays whom, the whole series was written at a level below my 13 year old's ability. it was only ever any good because "pew pew, look, that sword's a LASER!"
Quote from: "buttfinger"Are we pretending that Star Wars was good because of the writing? It doesn't matter who plays whom, the whole series was written at a level below my 13 year old's ability. it was only ever any good because "pew pew, look, that sword's a LASER!"
:roll:
Nothing to add, I see.
Ahh the mystery of the popularity of the original "Star Wars" compared to the crap that followed.
The commonly held theory is that Lucas lifted the major aspects of the plot of Episode 4 from Kurosawa's 1958 film, "The Hidden Fortress". Hmm, Jedi do seem a lot like samurai, don't they?
Anyway, when SW ep 4 was a HUGE hit, Lucas had to come up with more plots, back stories, etc. And shock, he's no epic sci fi writer. While I have to give props to Empire Strikes Back, which is pretty solid, the rest of the movies are basically giant pieces of shit covered with a beautiful yummy icing of special effects.
My expectations are low. I would not be surprised if the Disney movies are just another excuse for toy merchandising to a new generation of kids. Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.
Quote from: "Seabear"Ahh the mystery of the popularity of the original "Star Wars" compared to the crap that followed.
The commonly held theory is that Lucas lifted the major aspects of the plot of Episode 4 from Kurosawa's 1958 film, "The Hidden Fortress".
And Dune
And Joseph Campbell
And Lensman
And...
Quote from: "the_antithesis"Quote from: "Seabear"Ahh the mystery of the popularity of the original "Star Wars" compared to the crap that followed.
The commonly held theory is that Lucas lifted the major aspects of the plot of Episode 4 from Kurosawa's 1958 film, "The Hidden Fortress".
And Dune
And Joseph Campbell
And Lensman
And...
I didn't realize Joseph Campbell was a science fiction writer.
There is no doubt that Lucas was influenced by the concept of Campbell's monomythic hero, but those are just concepts. But the plot of The Hidden Fortress is remarkably similar to Star Wars.
I've read Campbell's The Hero With A Thousand Faces, and The Power Of Myth. Campbell's academic work recognized the underlying metaphorical patterns in myth and religion, some aspects Lucas incorporated into his films. Which may explain the cross cultural appeal of the material.
Wherever the inspiration came from, it was clearly insufficient to create material for more than one or two movies.
One problem with Star Wars is that all the characters are so one dimensional with no complexity to them at all. The only complex character the series has is Anakin Skywalker aka Darth Vader.
Quote from: "Bobby_Ouroborus"One problem with Star Wars is that all the characters are so one dimensional with no complexity to them at all. The only complex character the series has is Anakin Skywalker aka Darth Vader.
Agreed. With the possible exception of Solo, the most interesting characters are the villains.
Quote from: "the_antithesis"This is like the Eagles getting back together or something. Wait, that's dated. This is like the Talking Heads getting back together or something.
This is like KISS getting back together. Kept alive purely by nostalgia.
QuoteWhat is it about J.J. Abrams that would encourage Ford to don the blouse and vest again? Does Abrams have a purdy little mouth?
In all fairness to J.J. Abrams, he has actually seen the Star Wars movies. ZING!
QuoteTry as I might to avoid or just not care about the upcoming Star Wars flicks, I learn something new that makes me go, "Man what?" I don't even know what they could announce at this point that would surprise me.
The Empire is a metaphor for America and the Rebels are Islamic militants. :P
Don't look at me like that. Search your feelings, you know it to be true (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKxzI4LuNSU). If you were a reporter on Coruscant, what you call that sort of attack? Exactly.
Quote from: "the_antithesis"Quote from: "Seabear"Ahh the mystery of the popularity of the original "Star Wars" compared to the crap that followed.
The commonly held theory is that Lucas lifted the major aspects of the plot of Episode 4 from Kurosawa's 1958 film, "The Hidden Fortress".
And Dune
And Joseph Campbell
And Lensman
And...
Isaac Asimov (//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_Empire_%28Isaac_Asimov%29)!
Quote from: "the_antithesis"What is it about J.J. Abrams that would encourage Ford to don the blouse and vest again? Does Abrams have a purdy little mouth?
$$$ probably
Quote from: "the_antithesis"Still, I can't wait to hear all the fapping over this one. No, really.
Well yeah. I'm interested to see how it turns out to be honest. I am convinced it'll be terrible, but it'd be nice to be pleasantly surprised.
Quote from: "Seabear"My expectations are low. I would not be surprised if the Disney movies are just another excuse for toy merchandising to a new generation of kids. Hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.
Yep, it's all about $$$.
Not to mention that the film is almost guaranteed to sell lots of tickets simply because people will feel the need to go and see the new star wars film despite it probably being atrocious.
Can't be more than a cameo, can it?
Don't know about you guys but I'm lookin forward to seeing carrie fisher strip off again.
Quote from: "Bobby_Ouroborus"One problem with Star Wars is that all the characters are so one dimensional with no complexity to them at all. The only complex character the series has is Anakin Skywalker aka Darth Vader.
I am old school, everything after the original 3 to me SUCKED HUGE DONKEY BALLS. I thought all the characters in the original 3 were damned good. Plus the new one relied too much on computer graphics and not enough on scale models. I guess it is generational.
I hate going to action movies today because most of the time I feel like I should have an x box controller in my hands. If I am going to a movie, I don't want to feel like I am playing a video game.
The action movies and tv shows I grew up with relied on camera angles, stuntmen and scale models. Everything today is fucking computerized. I guess I am so used to the old way that my brain is not fooled by the new stuff.
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Quote from: "Brian37"I hate going to action movies today because most of the time I feel like I should have an x box controller in my hands. If I am going to a movie, I don't want to feel like I am playing a video game.
Agreed.
+2
Well I'm a Harrison Ford fan so I'll be happy to see him again. At least he still looks good unlike some of the others from the original SW.
Quote from: "buttfinger"Nothing to add, I see.
Add to what? You think you made some brilliant contribution.
LOL
Nah, just that I made SOME contribution.
Wasn't there already a Star Wars storyline mostly revolving around the children of Han and Leia? Ford and Fisher are probably around the right age for that.
Quote from: "Agramon"Wasn't there already a Star Wars storyline mostly revolving around the children of Han and Leia? Ford and Fisher are probably around the right age for that.
A couple, actually. They're in book and comic form.
@Brian
You are right to call episodes 1-3 computer spawned disasters. Even most of the backgrounds weren't even real. However, this CGI can work well in the right hands when used to moderation, ie the the LOTR trilogy. Unfortunately, there are more examples of failure than success and Hollywood really should go back to old way of doing things.
Quote from: "the_antithesis"This is like the Eagles getting back together or something.
Very apt. The Eagles also suck...
Quote from: "BarkAtTheMoon"Quote from: "asshat"I hear Mark Hamil is trying to get in on it too. I don't think he will work out as well Harrison Ford would.
Hamil's done a lot of good stuff in recent years, though. He's awesome as the voice of Joker in the Arkham Batman games.
He's awesome as the voice of the Joker in nearly every Batman movie and series. :D There are very few where Mark is not the voice. DC likes to get new voices for most movies and shows, but the Joker, Batman, and Superman are often the original voices from the 1990's series.
Quote from: "asshat"I hear Mark Hamil is trying to get in on it too. I don't think he will work out as well Harrison Ford would.
Lol I bet Mark Hamil is trying to get in on this. Sure those royalty checks must be shrinking by now.
Quote from: "Agramon"Wasn't there already a Star Wars storyline mostly revolving around the children of Han and Leia? Ford and Fisher are probably around the right age for that.
I really hope the new Star Wars isn't about Han's and Leia's kids. It's going to be like Star Wars fucked The Suite Life of Zack and Cody and it will just end up being some aborted Disney fucking shit show.
.........Yeah I don't like Disney much.
Quote from: "commonsense822"I really hope the new Star Wars isn't about Han's and Leia's kids. It's going to be like Star Wars fucked The Suite Life of Zack and Cody and it will just end up being some aborted Disney fucking shit show.
.........Yeah I don't like Disney much.
It's a legitimate concern, but there's also a big difference between Disney owned "adult" movie productions and even Pixar and their traditional animation versus Disney Channel shit that's competing with Nickelodeon for the tween market.