This thread is coming to you soon. It is poorly put together at the moment because of my lack of patience.
We are going to examine the damage done by the evil British Empire , which conquered land on every continent and became the most powerful and wealthy Global Empire the world has ever seen.They are and were the masters of the ocean and their royal navy was never defeated. Their greedy island was never punished.... they got off with a slap on the wrist. No other murderous Empire got off so easy. The Third Reich lasted a few years...the British Empire lasted CENTURIES!
Every other Empire was held accountable. Not this one. Why?
Sorry for my premature ejaculation on your forum. My attack on Britain was supposed to wait. I did not have much time to prepare for battle. Its been raining and the wheels of my artillery are stuck in the mud. But I must attack the British swiftly before the Prussians arrive.
I need to blitzkrieg the Duke of Wellington before Blucher arrives with his horde
Vive mon pays!
I think you are a fuckin troll, why dont you shut the fuck up........
Quote from: Napolean B on July 20, 2014, 08:24:00 PMNo other murderous Empire got off so easy.
As an American...
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Hey Napoleon. Are you going to start being a contributing member on here? or are you going to start spamming with threads about your avatar?
I don't know....like watching a live one man performance.....
:popcorn:
He's French. It's where he got that outrageous accent..
I have a misspelled French name.. Oh god!
Quote from: PickelledEggs on July 20, 2014, 09:10:41 PM
Hey Napoleon. Are you going to start being a contributing member on here? or are you going to start spamming with threads about your avatar?
Do not mock the Emperor of France!
Meh. Nothing anyone can't learn on Wikipedia or from a high school history class.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on July 20, 2014, 09:29:25 PM
Do not mock the Emperor of France!
You're probably right. Even poison tablets can't kill him. (let's forget about that they were so old that they lost their potency)
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on July 20, 2014, 09:22:31 PM
He's French. It's where he got that outrageous accent..
I have a misspelled French name.. Oh god!
Mohammed is spelled more than 1 Way, I believe the same rules should apply to Napoleon because He was a prophet as well!
I am not worthy of having two O's in my name that would be blasphemy!
Not only were they worse than Hitler, they and the French drew arbitrary lines across the continent, trapping opposing ethnic groups together, leading to genocides such as what idi amin did to Uganda.
Moreover, they took sustainable economies and forced countries to overhaul into the spice and tea trade, which they then traded for food. After the older generations that remembered the old ways had all died off, the Europeans pulled out leaving entire countries with spice and tea crops no one wanted and which they couldn't eat, leading to civil wars, famine and disease.
Now, we smugly look at the Africans as if they are just some sort of lost cause to be blamed for their own failures.
All I can do is respond with this, not at africa, but Napolean B himself, just him.
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You know why Anglicans can't play chess?
They cant tell the Queen from the bishop!
Quote from: Napolean B on July 20, 2014, 10:15:46 PM
Now, we smugly look at the Africans as if they are just some sort of lost cause to be blamed for their own failures.
They've had long enough to get their acts together!Or are they happy to spend the next couple of hundred years wallowing in self pity!!
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on July 20, 2014, 09:22:31 PM
He's French. It's where he got that outrageous accent..
I have a misspelled French name.. Oh god!
Michel?
:wink:
-Nam
Quote from: JohnD on July 23, 2014, 06:55:59 PM
They've had long enough to get their acts together!Or are they happy to spend the next couple of hundred years wallowing in self pity!!
Say what?
Are you even aware of the fact that most African countries gained their freedom from European colonisation only after WWII or even in the 70s?
Are you even aware of the fact that even if nominally independent their economy is still mostly controlled by western interests?
Are you even aware of the constant meddling US and Europe had and still have in their own internal affairs, including installing the convenient
dictateur du jour and/or supporting this or that political faction according to our economic interests?
Quote from: DunkleSeele on July 24, 2014, 04:05:28 AM
Say what?
Are you even aware of the fact that most African countries gained their freedom from European colonisation only after WWII or even in the 70s?
Are you even aware of the fact that even if nominally independent their economy is still mostly controlled by western interests?
Are you even aware of the constant meddling US and Europe had and still have in their own internal affairs, including installing the convenient dictateur du jour and/or supporting this or that political faction according to our economic interests?
Yes i am aware, what's your point? One country was picked out of many colonialists. To add to your list of meddlers in African affairs, why didnt you also include more recent meddlers such as China and Russia? We are all complicit in exploiting poorer countries not just in Africa. Countrie within continents exploit their neighbours. You want the latest product at a cheap price then instead of whining about it, do something about it.
Quote from: JohnD on July 24, 2014, 05:58:33 AM
Yes i am aware, what's your point? One country was picked out of many colonialists. To add to your list of meddlers in African affairs, why didnt you also include more recent meddlers such as China and Russia? We are all complicit in exploiting poorer countries not just in Africa. Countrie within continents exploit their neighbours. You want the latest product at a cheap price then instead of whining about it, do something about it.
Do you realise you're supporting my point of view?
These African countries did not have "long enough to get their acts together!". They haven't been given the chance to get their acts together.
About China and Russia: I agree with you, no arguments. If I didn't mention them explicitly it's because their influence on those African countries is historically much more recent than European/US one.
Quote from: DunkleSeele on July 24, 2014, 06:49:36 AM
Do you realise you're supporting my point of view?
These African countries did not have "long enough to get their acts together!". They haven't been given the chance to get their acts together.
About China and Russia: I agree with you, no arguments. If I didn't mention them explicitly it's because their influence on those African countries is historically much more recent than European/US one.
No, what i realise is that you made an assumption that 'long enough to get their acts together' meant that they should now be on par with the west. My statement was that they either move towards a social program which is beneficial to all. It doesn't matter at what stage of this transposition they are at, as long as the people can see that progression is being made and to their benefit, which it doesn't appear to be. They've had long enough to implement these programs and it ain't happening.
Then you blame the West and the USA for exploiting these countries! How do they exploit them? Well they can't do what they did in the past and colonise the country for it's resources and cheap labour force so now they offer enticements to these governments. So the question is, who is the bad guy in this situation, the enticer or the enticee? My answer is that they are both equaly complicit at the expense of their citizens. 'Luckily' some governments will allow the wealth to trickle down to it's citizens and there are others who hoard it and their citizens get squat. So while it's easy to blame the west, consider also that governments who abuse their power, not just in Africa, also have a moral obligation to their citizens which in most cases 'ain't happening'.
Quote from: JohnD on July 24, 2014, 07:48:22 AM
No, what i realise is that you made an assumption that 'long enough to get their acts together' meant that they should now be on par with the west.
You're the only one making assumptions here.
QuoteMy statement was that they either move towards a social program which is beneficial to all. It doesn't matter at what stage of this transposition they are at, as long as the people can see that progression is being made and to their benefit, which it doesn't appear to be. They've had long enough to implement these programs and it ain't happening.
In some countries it has started, in some others it didn't. Mostly because it's not in the interests of the big world players for these countries to develop.
QuoteThen you blame the West and the USA for exploiting these countries! How do they exploit them? Well they can't do what they did in the past and colonise the country for it's resources and cheap labour force so now they offer enticements to these governments. So the question is, who is the bad guy in this situation, the enticer or the enticee? My answer is that they are both equaly complicit at the expense of their citizens. 'Luckily' some governments will allow the wealth to trickle down to it's citizens and there are others who hoard it and their citizens get squat. So while it's easy to blame the west, consider also that governments who abuse their power, not just in Africa, also have a moral obligation to their citizens which in most cases 'ain't happening'.
And these governments who abuse their power are supported by whom? It's the new face of colonialism, wake up and smell the coffee.
Quote from: DunkleSeele on July 24, 2014, 08:49:29 AM
And these governments who abuse their power are supported by whom? It's the new face of colonialism, wake up and smell the coffee.
The answer is in my post, jeeeezz. It really isn't that difficult to understand. If you want i can come round and hold your hand while we read it together!!
Quote from: JohnD on July 24, 2014, 09:36:19 AM
The answer is in my post, jeeeezz. It really isn't that difficult to understand. If you want i can come round and hold your hand while we read it together!!
Don't worry, I don't need any hand holding to see the bias in your posts. Your answer is that those third world countries (or their governments) are equally to blame as the ones supporting them. The reality is that those countries never had the possibility of having any real development BECAUSE of the meddling of the big world players. Colonialism really never ended because the big world players never allowed a real change even after the official end of the occupation of those countries.
EDIT: Anyway, I'm done with you. Your posts aren't worth any more of my time.
Quote from: DunkleSeele on July 24, 2014, 09:48:26 AM
Don't worry, I don't need any hand holding to see the bias in your posts. Your answer is that those third world countries (or their governments) are equally to blame as the ones supporting them. The reality is that those countries never had the possibility of having any real development BECAUSE of the meddling of the big world players. Colonialism really never ended because the big world players never allowed a real change even after the official end of the occupation of those countries.
EDIT: Anyway, I'm done with you. Your posts aren't worth any more of my time.
Stop acting so pious. You make out you are a knight in shining armour to the oppressed. What you are is a part of the problem!! You want your cheap TV's, computers, cars etc. Where do you think it all comes from? The exploitation of the poor mainly from undeveloped and developing countries. Instead of sitting on your fat ass filling your pie hole with doritos and Coke, why don't you go out and help these people, then you might be worth taking seriously!!
It says a lot about someone when they have to resort to false assumptions and personal attacks. Oh well...
Quote from: DunkleSeele on July 24, 2014, 09:48:26 AM
EDIT: Anyway, I'm done with you. Your posts aren't worth any more of my time.
A liar as well.