Does anybody want to post a lie that God said in the Bible? That is one purpose for this thread.
God said that those who believe in Him will do the works that Jesus did and greater works than those. He said that people who believe in him can drink poison and it would have no effect on them.
He said faith of a mustard seed can move mountains. He said nothing will be impossible for you who have faith.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxc20saM8DA
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in short people, want an excuse for hatred
it shows up as a big black box.
what has God done for you? and why did you called me to troll?
I said I was suspicious
I don't feel comfortable talking about my personal life but I will give one detail
I have neurofibromatosis and my faith helps me deal with it
Well I'm happy for you then. Keep the faith!
did you get your pass to Purgatory? (The troll promised land)
God doesn't lie, the truth just warps around god to make it so.
"It feels real nice shoving a banana up my ass"
"No it doesn't, Gawd says it don't!!"
"Oh okay then, guess it doesn't then"
Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on July 18, 2014, 10:47:45 PM
I have neurofibromatosis and my faith helps me deal with it
yeah, but a REAL god woulda fixed it for you....maybe you should try a god that does what it promises to do.
I never asked to be healed because I think its a ridiculous request
of course its a ridiculous request...especially when one know the answer will always be no, because one knows in the back of their mind, that god does not actually answer prayers at all. Ever.
Quote from: aitm on July 19, 2014, 09:35:40 AM
of course its a ridiculous request...especially when one know the answer will always be no, because one knows in the back of their mind, that god does not actually answer prayers at all. Ever.
Or that your own fart has more chance of answering a prayer then god does.. because the fart actually exists.
Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on July 18, 2014, 10:47:45 PM
I said I was suspicious
I don't feel comfortable talking about my personal life but I will give one detail
I have neurofibromatosis and my faith helps me deal with it
Feel for you, bro. But if science cures it, will you still be seeking comfort with the lord?
There is no cure, its a genetic disorder in which the body doesnt produce chemicals that prevent the development of tumors,
Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on July 19, 2014, 11:00:15 AM
There is no cure, its a genetic disorder in which the body doesnt produce chemicals that prevent the development of tumors,
Sorry CP, but you dodged the question. If science would discover a cure for it, would you still be seeking comfort in religion/faith?
ETA: Feel for you, and I mean it.
I would need comfort for other things, i suffer from depression, the meds dont seem to help much be ause it all still seems pointless
Sorry to hear it dude. but if I can say, as a type 1 diabetic who was diagnosed from age 2 I've had to deal with a medical condition that is a constant fear for keeping it under control myself. I'm atheist, though only have been so since my late 20s -early 30s, and whatever I believe it hasn't had any baring on my medical condition.
I'm just gonna advise this, if faith helps you cope with it thats fine, but learning to stand on your own with a medical condition if better, it makes you more able to cope with it.
My line of reasoning is that in comparison, i have great life, brain tumors and all, but the question is why isnt it enough, why is everyone wanting more, so there might be more or maybe the world is unreasonable
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality of happiness, and by no means a necessity of life.â€
― George Bernard Shaw
Exactly how does faith help you deal with anything? I have a bad ticker and no amount of prayer is ever going to change that fact. It wouldn't make my heart pump blood any faster or unclog arteries. I've got an arthritic hip, but prayer won't make my hip hurt one iota less. I'll be 55 next week and no amount of prayer will make that not happen.
A couple of years ago I had a pituitary adenoma removed that was pressing on my brain and causing a aneurism in a blood vessel. I found out I am genetically prone to tumors and cancer, had prostate cancer, as well as strokes, which I have had also. If genetic research hadn't been stopped by religious fanatics thinking it is God's will because we have diseases because of our sins, many genetic diseases would be cured, in fact, many have because of the research. I admire your courage! Please explain how a belief in a God that is all powerful and gave you this disease, and has created a hell, can give you comfort knowing the tumors are after your soul? Why would you not request a cure if you believe God could do it being all forgiving and loving? My genetic profile shows I will probably die from pancreatic cancer like my mother did, if I thought for even a second that an all loving powerful God would change that fact I would kiss His ass and give him a blowjob. :eek: :madu: Solitary
Quote from: Solitary on July 19, 2014, 01:06:22 PM
A couple of years ago I had a pituitary adenoma removed that was pressing on my brain and causing a aneurism in a blood vessel. I found out I am genetically prone to tumors and cancer, had prostate cancer, as well as strokes which I have had. If genetic research hadn't been stopped by religious fanatics thinking it is God's will because we have diseases because of our sins, many genetic diseases would be cured, in fact, many have because of the research. I admire your courage! Please explain how a belief in a God that is all powerful and gave you this disease, and has created a hell, can give you comfort knowing the tumors are after your soul? Solitary
This so much THIS.
The medical world has advanced because it didn't let itself be hindered by religion indoctrination, ones that claimed praying to god was the only method of healing people.
If you want some voodoo mumbo yumbo, have it for some enlightening drug trip to chill out, but leave actually saying peoples lives or giving them a chance to have a happy normal life to those who actually focus on medicine, biology and science, not fucking prayer.
How often have there been stories of parents who let their children die because their belief in god would keep their children safe, and once the child dies they make some bullshit about how god has them now, when the child could have lived if you just brought it to a hospital and let doctors tells you how to keep them safe.
When I was diagnosed at age 2, my mother became the one who would have to inject me with insulin every single day, to watch my blood sugar levels and keep them balanced, to worry all the time about what I ate and what I was doing. She wasn't just my mother she became my guardian angel who didn't just take care of me, she taught me how to take care of myself with my condition.
There was no fucking god there, it was my mother and her love that kept me alive. My father was just a useless old drunk who couldn't process how diabeties worked and never knew anything about how to help me if I had a hypo when growing up, it was all my mum.
Sorry got a bit off track there, but I stand on what I said, medicine and biology has advanced to help people live now BECAUSE it ignored religion.
Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on July 19, 2014, 11:16:00 AM
I would need comfort for other things, i suffer from depression, the meds dont seem to help much be ause it all still seems pointless
Dude, you just dodged twice in a row. Answer the fucking question.
-Nam
Hey, Darryl Strawberry is now a faith healer.. Go see the former addict..
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on July 19, 2014, 02:21:47 PM
Hey, Darryl Strawberry is now a faith healer.. Go see the former addict..
Dude, I saw a pic of him once with a shitload of white powder on his face. Funny thing is, he shot up.
:wink:
-Nam