Koran 9:28
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9:28
Sahih International
O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise.
Now what you'll never know unless you've been an ex-Muslim like me, is that the word نجس which is translated " unclean" is a specific technical term in Islam, meaning the the dirty things that no Muslim should ever physically touch or keep in sight.
The list of official Islamic "dirty" things are shit, piss, cum, dogs and pigs, and the atheist.
And please keep in mind the fact that it's Quran's text, not an interpretation, not a Hadith, etc. It's the basic teaching of an Islam which every Muslim has to believe in otherwise they wouldn't be a Muslim.
They all truly and literally believe a non-believer, and that means any person who doesn't follow an Abrahamic religion, is a dirty object, same as shit, piss, cum, dogs and pigs.
A Muslim believes if he shakes an non-believers hand, he has to wash his hands three times so he's clean, just like he touches shit and piss
Should us Atheists show any respect to these people, who deep down think of us as walking human form of shit?
If Atheists had one bit of courage they would be burning Korans publicly on a daily basis.
Islam is the same as racism an homophobia. It's funny how atheists don't get any protection unlike the poor victims of those other two evil ideas.
I don't know the laws in US, do neo-Nazis get protection under free speech or no? Even if they do, stuff like this easily puts Muslims on the same level as neo-Nazis.
I have better things to waste time being pissed off about. I have a daughter in law who's OCD and washes her hands about 90 times a day so..meh.
But one of the lowest things white racists did was claiming black people shouldn't be touched by white people, which nowadays is so unacceptable and turns any salve owning racist person into the ultimate evil, and may I add rightfully so.
Why are Muslims getting a pass? How can you not be angry about it?
Because religion is a sacred cow, and to offend the funda"mental"ist in any religion has repercussions. :eek: :madu: Solitary
I was never taught this, a case of sugar coating i suppose. some people i know actually tells me that non-muslim stinks. i mean they could literally smell the odor. the reason, they gave me was that their diet includes pork, and they don't wash that much. :wtff:
I had a conversation with a family member couple of months ago about shaking non-muslim hands and they told me just to keep a hand sanitizer on myself. they were more worried about the bathroom habits of the non-muslims. Some people actually don't wash their hands after they use the toilet so i think that was a good advise. :toilet:
I wonder how many of their prayers weren't accepted just because i was living with them. :eh:
Quote from: Maldini on July 06, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
Koran 9:28
The list of official Islamic "dirty" things are shit, piss, cum, dogs and pigs, and the atheist.
Woah! What have they got against cum?
Quran is full of racist remarks, It is not a surprise. There is actually a verse that allow muslims men to marry non-muslims (christian) women despite been unclean as indicated in the verse. Quran contradict itself in many occasions, there are tons of misapprehensions which when you confront muslims with, they just leap into another interpretation that favor their arguments. Muslims are probably the blindest group in their faith among religions.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on July 07, 2014, 04:12:16 AM
:lol:
Hey CloneKai.
Yes that's a given. Muslims are brainwashed to think that they are clean. Because of abdest, gusül abdests..etc.
Do you also know the bullshit about how bad non-circumcised men stinks?
*British accent. -Those stinky bastards!
Hi! how is the weather in Turkey? I don't think Germany even have summer, 21 degree centigrade in july :eek:
Non-circumcised men stinks! i didn't know that. why didn't they tell me such an important fact, oh never mind. talking about ones naughty bits is a taboo. I still can't figure out a suitable revenge for doing that to me :cry:
Quote from: CloneKai on July 07, 2014, 09:03:19 AM
I don't think Germany even have summer, 21 degree centigrade in july :eek:
Quote from: drunkenshoe on July 07, 2014, 09:12:41 AM
Yeah, lol I have an idea. I've got cold in Munich during a visit in May around 2008. And returned home sick. Europe is cold!
Wimps :lol: :lol:
I, personally, have never had a problem with Muslims off the internet. I've met many throughout my life, and they knew me as an atheist. At least the one's in the US seemed to have more of a gripe with Christiansâ,,¢ than atheists or Jews, at least where I live.
-Nam
Quote from: drunkenshoe on July 07, 2014, 11:28:33 AM
I'm a Mediterranean creature, thank you very much. *Throws hair.
I'm also a Mediterranean creature, don't you remember? :wink2:
Quote from: drunkenshoe on July 07, 2014, 04:14:37 PM
You moved to the mountains, you traitor. Fortunately, you didn't forgot the food of your homeland.
:rotflmao:
Anyway, Europe isn't really cold. Ever been to Siberia? In winter? Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. :eek:
Quote from: drunkenshoe on July 07, 2014, 04:57:28 PM
I know, but it feels very cold when you are a tourist hoping around. What the hell were you doing in Siberia?! :eek: Construction thing? Ow, cannot even imagine.
Not directly construction, but projects for road safety in winter. The same I was doing in Bolu.
The Muslims, just like the Christians, are a group of cherry pickers, who ignore details in the faith they practice.
If whenever I see a muslim woman here in the uk walking around with a head scarf, I feel like walking up to her saying "either take that fucking thing off or cover your face, hands and feet completely, don't pick and choose the shit in your faith, either embrace it fully or don't follow it"
Muslim people don't get a pass on it, if it's something they believe. Everyone who believes in scriptures picks and chooses, it's impossible not to. If they try to explain it away as something that only applied in the time of Mohammed, fine. If they try to kill polytheists, not fine.
Quote from: Munch on August 07, 2014, 07:13:20 AM
The Muslims, just like the Christians, are a group of cherry pickers, who ignore details in the faith they practice.
If whenever I see a muslim woman here in the uk walking around with a head scarf, I feel like walking up to her saying "either take that fucking thing off or cover your face, hands and feet completely, don't pick and choose the shit in your faith, either embrace it fully or don't follow it"
The Qu'ran requires modesty but is not that specific about what exactly needs to be worn to secure it. In my opinion, women who wear burqas in Western countries are violating the spirit of modesty by attracting attention to themselves.
If we spent our time going through the Qur'an picking out retarded shit, there wouldn't be much time left for anything else. I don't think muslims get a pass on this at all. Living in Britain, most muslims I've met are just getting on with their lives and picking out the bits of the Qur'an that they think are pertinent and broadly acceptable in 21st century Britain. They're more 'cultural muslims' than anything else and are more concerned with putting food on the table and getting their kids an education just like other people. Yes, wingnuts do exist here, but they are very much a minority. I take Julia Gillard's (paraphrased) view that anyone who wants to practise an ass-backwards 7th century version of a religion should piss off to a country that can provide that.
Quote from: Youssuf Ramadan on August 07, 2014, 03:31:28 PM
If we spent our time going through the Qur'an picking out retarded shit, there wouldn't be much time left for anything else. I don't think muslims get a pass on this at all. Living in Britain, most muslims I've met are just getting on with their lives and picking out the bits of the Qur'an that they think are pertinent and broadly acceptable in 21st century Britain. They're more 'cultural muslims' than anything else and are more concerned with putting food on the table and getting their kids an education just like other people. Yes, wingnuts do exist here, but they are very much a minority. I take Julia Gillard's (paraphrased) view that anyone who wants to practise an ass-backwards 7th century version of a religion should piss off to a country that can provide that.
For me, this just puts people of these faiths in the risk zone, in that you don't know what bits and pieces of the Quran or Bible they follow, they might seem perfectly amenable people on the surface, but you suddenly realise there view of the world is that black people are devils and women need to be held in chains, all with a smile on there face while they tell you this.
I trust these folk even less then the nutcases who follow these books in all their violence and irrational thinking, because at least i know i'm dealing with a nutcase when they follow everything the bible or quran teaches. The others, i just approach them with caution.
Just Islam? The bible and OT also have nasty parts as to how you treat other human beings as well. Also makes me wonder what the religious root of the caste system in India comes from.
Quote from: Brian37 on August 07, 2014, 05:12:29 PM
Just Islam? The bible and OT also have nasty parts as to how you treat other human beings as well. Also makes me wonder what the religious root of the caste system in India comes from.
I guess you could look it up. But my guess is that somebody figured it out as a way to keep the have nots with not.
Quote from: Munch on August 07, 2014, 04:44:05 PM
For me, this just puts people of these faiths in the risk zone, in that you don't know what bits and pieces of the Quran or Bible they follow, they might seem perfectly amenable people on the surface, but you suddenly realise there view of the world is that black people are devils and women need to be held in chains, all with a smile on there face while they tell you this.
I trust these folk even less then the nutcases who follow these books in all their violence and irrational thinking, because at least i know i'm dealing with a nutcase when they follow everything the bible or quran teaches. The others, i just approach them with caution.
You trust moderates less than fundamentalists? Wow, you're the first person I've heard say that.
There are apparently 73 + sects in islam that believe differing things, and there are obviously variations within each sect, despite attempts by the imams go get everyone to believe the same things. Even with the threat of state-approved violence to shore up the religious crap there is a bid difference between saying you believe something and actually believing it.
The key to getting rid of fundie religion is education, and the leadership in many islamic countries do their best to keep people the fuck away from any sort of education that is going to encourage them to question the state-approved religious beliefs.
Most muslims I know over here just like a bit of tradition to keep the family history alive. Even that will erode when the older members die off. For the most part, it seems to become more dilute as time goes on. There will still be reactionary idiots who want to return to the good old days of public stonings and religious mysogyny, but I hope that in time the umma will become sufficiently educated that most will stand up and say no to these idiots and remove their credibility and platform. As far as the middle east goes, I'm not going to hold my breath though....
I think just given how these faith erode over time as the world matures in its laws and human rights, they should just outright dissolve them completely.
Thats all these old faiths are, rules to govern human kind by higher ups, something that as the western world has shown has become far far less of any importance then somewhere like the middle east where human rights laws haven't caught up yet.
Quote from: Munch on August 11, 2014, 08:18:52 AM
I think just given how these faith erode over time as the world matures in its laws and human rights, they should just outright dissolve them completely.
Thats all these old faiths are, rules to govern human kind by higher ups, something that as the western world has shown has become far far less of any importance then somewhere like the middle east where human rights laws haven't caught up yet.
Mate, as far as I'm concerned, religion can't disappear down the crapper of history fast enough. Unfortunately, it is one of the most effective social control systems in the history of humankind, and it's a doozy of a way to get the credulous herd to accept authoritarian rule, so it's going to take a while....
Quote from: no-excuses on July 07, 2014, 02:19:53 AM
Quran contradict itself in many occasions,
If you ask a muslim they will claim there are no contradictions in the Quran, i have had muslims concede Muhammad al Razi was not a muslim because he said the Quran was full of contradictions, al Razi was a scientist from the golden age of atheism.
So what happens if there are contradictions in the Quran,have you read the fine print?
www.quran.com/4/82 (http://www.quran.com/4/82)
The Qur'an has contradictions all the way through it - it's an argument with itself in many ways. Given that it took Mohammed 23 years to dictate it to some bloke who was writing it down on leaves and bones, it's no great surprise that he forgot what he'd already said. Technically, the official position is that there are no contradictions. Practically, many moderates accept privately that there are contradictions while the hard-liners use a ridiculously convoluted form of creative exegesis to make it look as if there aren't. Technically, Jews are expecting a messiah, as good ole Jeebus didn't meet the standard. Practically, I've yet to meet a jew that is expecting one. Doubtless, the story is different with the Hasidim though... The gap between traditional and the real is a very uncomfortable one for the religious.... not just Islam, though muslims seem to be the ones with the furthest to fall, given the situation they've put themselves in.
Quote from: Youssuf Ramadan on August 12, 2014, 05:26:17 AM
Mate, as far as I'm concerned, religion can't disappear down the crapper of history fast enough. Unfortunately, it is one of the most effective social control systems in the history of humankind, and it's a doozy of a way to get the credulous herd to accept authoritarian rule, so it's going to take a while....
yeah.. I know. It does though create hope when people can stand up and declare they don't need faith in religion to live in this world now, thats a step in the right direction.
Of course trying to hope for religious followers to stop doing it in one generation is of course foolish, religious dogma is forced on children from a young age, by religious parents who were also forced upon by their parents, and the children will do the same to their children in a vicious cycle.
Its only ever a case of if someone in that kind of family line cuts themselves from the cloth that it can lead to more enlightened thinking, at the risk of losing touch with their family (or in middle eastern countries, risk of being beheaded/stoned/hanged)
One of the daftest things about interpretation of the Qur'an is the idea of the principle of abrogation, which means that the prophets's later teachings supersede anything he might have said previously on the same topic. Many muslims manage to hold that there are no contradictions in the Qur'an when you use the principle of abrogation to interpret it, while flatly ingnoring the fact that the necessity for them to use abrogation at all proves that there were contradictions to start with. Nuts.... :eyes:
Quote from: Youssuf Ramadan on August 24, 2014, 06:46:19 AM
One of the daftest things about interpretation of the Qur'an is the idea of the principle of abrogation, which means that the prophets's later teachings supersede anything he might have said previously on the same topic. Many muslims manage to hold that there are no contradictions in the Qur'an when you use the principle of abrogation to interpret it, while flatly ingnoring the fact that the necessity for them to use abrogation at all proves that there were contradictions to start with. Nuts.... :eyes:
Mo died in 632,in 655 the text of the Quran was finalised by the Caliph Uthman, divine origins my ass!
A lot of muslims are in denial about abrogation,Muhsin Khan hints at abrogation with his translation (tick box on left side) of 16/67.
quran.com/16/67 (http://quran.com/16/67)
Muslims claim the Quran has never been corrupted, none have given a reasonable explanation on why the verse on stoning is missing from the Quran,i like asking muslims WTF is this breastfeeding an adult ten times nonsense.
It appears a tame sheep starting munching on the Quran which muslims claim has never been corrupted.
sunnah.com/urn/1262630 (http://sunnah.com/urn/1262630)
I have a muslim in another forum who is becoming a Quran only muslim,he rejects a lot of bad shit, he was in denial about Mo having sex slaves and demanded evidence,lol.
sunnah.com/nasai/36/21 (http://sunnah.com/nasai/36/21)
Quote from: Munch on August 07, 2014, 07:13:20 AM
The Muslims, just like the Christians, are a group of cherry pickers, who ignore details in the faith they practice.
The Quran forbids cherry picking,a Salafi will tell you this is one of the many ways Islam differs from christianity.
What does Allah say about cherry picking?
quran.com/2/85 (http://quran.com/2/85)
If a muslim does cherry pick it could be a good thing if they reject the bad shit, the results of going fundamental can be seen in the Islamic state.
Quote from: baronvonrort on August 25, 2014, 05:05:23 AM
The Quran forbids cherry picking,a Salafi will tell you this is one of the many ways Islam differs from christianity.
What does Allah say about cherry picking?
quran.com/2/85 (http://quran.com/2/85)
If a muslim does cherry pick it could be a good thing if they reject the bad shit, the results of going fundamental can be seen in the Islamic state.
That doesn't stop them from cherry picking though even if theres some rule in place to tell them they can't, it happens anyway. Just like christianity, we know what muslim faith believes about homosexuality, that flogging and death is given out to gay people, yet despite this there are (foolishly) gay muslims here in the uk and in other countries, who cherry pick the 'good parts' of the quran while trying to forget the fact they would be condemned to death in there native country.
So yes, cherry picking infact DOES occur with the quran, its just all down to how insanely religious a muslim is.
A few years back a friend of mine, Jim, rented a room to a muslim guy. Jim came over to help me with a few things around the house and he brought the muslim with him. If I knew Jim was bringing him I would have told him to forget it. However, it turned out to be kind of funny.
At that time we had a little dog, Amber.
The funniest thing was to see this creepy little muslim bob and weave to avoid Amber. Amber liked to patrol the yard. If she came too close to him he'd trip over his own feet to get out of her way. Amber liked to guard the place so if a leaf blew across the yard she'd chase it. If she darted by him he'd do a little dance to avoid her. He'd twist and turn and jump out of the way. The more he moved she more she came towards him. If he was sitting down and she ran by him he'd leap out of the chair so fast he'd trip over the chair and knock it over. I tired quickly of this.
I asked Jim to get the creep out of my yard because he was annoying me and my dog.
So, I guess you have a problem with muslims? Do christians creep you out as well?
I think he just has a problem with people that are unsafe around his dog.
It looks interesting when you take his post and replace 'muslim' with 'jew'.... :madu:
I don't count muslim as a species, I count it as an corrupt idea.
Koran 9:28
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9:28
Sahih International
O you who have believed, indeed the polytheists are unclean, so let them not approach al-Masjid al-Haram after this, their [final] year. And if you fear privation, Allah will enrich you from His bounty if He wills. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Wise.
Now what you'll never know unless you've been an ex-Muslim like me, is that the word نجس which is translated " unclean" is a specific technical term in Islam, meaning the the dirty things that no Muslim should ever physically touch or keep in sight.
The list of official Islamic "dirty" things are shit, piss, cum, dogs and pigs, and the atheist.
Not that i really care what some backward religion thinks of non believers. But your quote pertains to Polytheists and there appears to be no mention of Atheists!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XRCYlZ4XOQ
He fails to see the connection despite the fact death penalties happen within islamic groups in the uk, despite it being against British law.
Here's the thing. I'm a woman. Most religions despise women. Muslim men, as well as just about every other man made religion, don't even think half the people on the planet really ARE people. So, yes. I wanted the creep out of my yard. I was gracious when I first met him. He was a guest in my home and I did all I could to make him feel welcome. He did all he could to let me know me and my dog were filthy. The first thing he did was refuse to shake my hand. It went down hill from there. I didn't post all the other rude and disgusting things he did because I'm sure most of you are aware of how muslims behave around women and other living things. I could be wrong. Maybe you don't. I just wanted to post the part about the dog.
Because of his made up religon and stupid superstitions he considerd me vile right off the bat. Therefore I considered him vile. Vile and creepy and I wanted him out of my home and my yard. Sue me. I wonder how he would have treated Jim if he knew he was gay?
Christians creep me out too.
@justme Ah right, now I'm with you. That's unfortunate having to deal with a gross little shit like that, when from the sounds of it you made all the effort to be a good host.
This is the thing that pisses me off the most about Muslims, especially Muslim men since they are almost always the instigators in this, but having them come over to free thinking modern countries like the UK, America and Canada, and how they bring their Neolithic religion with them, and think the same of western cultures as their own. These fuckers don't try to adapt.
Quote from: justme on August 26, 2014, 08:41:08 PM
Here's the thing. I'm a woman. Most religions despise women. Muslim men, as well as just about every other man made religion, don't even think half the people on the planet really ARE people. So, yes. I wanted the creep out of my yard. I was gracious when I first met him. He was a guest in my home and I did all I could to make him feel welcome. He did all he could to let me know me and my dog were filthy. The first thing he did was refuse to shake my hand. It went down hill from there. I didn't post all the other rude and disgusting things he did because I'm sure most of you are aware of how muslims behave around women and other living things. I could be wrong. Maybe you don't. I just wanted to post the part about the dog.
Because of his made up religon and stupid superstitions he considerd me vile right off the bat. Therefore I considered him vile. Vile and creepy and I wanted him out of my home and my yard. Sue me. I wonder how he would have treated Jim if he knew he was gay?
Maybe you are right but in my experience, since muslim are normally to stay away from dogs, so some stay away from them due to the impure thing and some because they are scared of them. the way you mentioned this guy acting, it might be possible he is scared of your dog. As far as i know, if he had touched her with his hand, he would have to wash all the way to the elbow. and if a dog touches your clothes, you are suppose to wash them before praying in those clothes.
And if a muslim guy is a decent person where i come from, then that guy wont shake a women hand. Not because she is dirty or something but out of respect. Remember purda or burqa thing, men are not suppose to touch them or even look at them in the eye (or they might get sinful temptations :flowers:).
So that guy might not have been a creep. But i could be wrong.
I've been on this planet for a long time. I know the difference between respect and contempt. This guy wasn't afraid of my dog.
The part about muslim men not wanting to touch a woman because they might be tempted to not keep it in their pants? I don't think so. muslim men can't control themselves so women have to walk around all covered up because the men are poor little weaklings and can't help themselves? Respect? If he rapes her it's all her fault, right? He's not a rapist - she's a temptress. Oh please. Another example of man creating his god in his own image. He who maketh up the religion also maketh up the rules and the laws. Men good and godly. Women bad and evil.
Women are vile here on earth. And yet in the afterlife they're a reward for good muslim men. Insane. But what else is new in the world of silly and demented superstitions we call religions?
No I agree with you in all regards to the fucked up nature of religion and how it makes people into monsters or control freaks or molesters or abusers. But I've always held giving people the benefit of the doubt and never judging on first appearances. My cousin has been in a relationship with a Muslim guy for 10 years now, and he's always been very friendly and good natured to all the family, so it's really down to character in these cases. He claims to be Muslim because he comes from it, but he clearly doesn't practice it.
Religion is just a door for the most fucked up of us to open and used for rationalizing their fucked up behaviour.
Quote from: justme on August 26, 2014, 08:41:08 PM
Here's the thing. I'm a woman. Most religions despise women. Muslim men, as well as just about every other man made religion, don't even think half the people on the planet really ARE people. So, yes. I wanted the creep out of my yard. I was gracious when I first met him. He was a guest in my home and I did all I could to make him feel welcome. He did all he could to let me know me and my dog were filthy. The first thing he did was refuse to shake my hand. It went down hill from there. I didn't post all the other rude and disgusting things he did because I'm sure most of you are aware of how muslims behave around women and other living things. I could be wrong. Maybe you don't. I just wanted to post the part about the dog.
Because of his made up religon and stupid superstitions he considerd me vile right off the bat. Therefore I considered him vile. Vile and creepy and I wanted him out of my home and my yard. Sue me. I wonder how he would have treated Jim if he knew he was gay?
I with you now. Based on this explanation you were right to be uncomfortable around this guy. Just shows how religious convictions can turn someone into a jerk.
Quote from: justme on August 26, 2014, 08:41:08 PM
Here's the thing. I'm a woman.
I didn't know. I hope I didn't offend.
Quote from: Maldini on July 06, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
Koran 9:28
Now what you'll never know unless you've been an ex-Muslim like me, is that the word نجس which is translated " unclean" is a specific technical term in Islam, meaning the the dirty things that no Muslim should ever physically touch or keep in sight.
The list of official Islamic "dirty" things are shit, piss, cum, dogs and pigs, and the atheist.
And please keep in mind the fact that it's Quran's text, not an interpretation, not a Hadith, etc. It's the basic teaching of an Islam which every Muslim has to believe in otherwise they wouldn't be a Muslim.
They all truly and literally believe a non-believer, and that means any person who doesn't follow an Abrahamic religion, is a dirty object, same as shit, piss, cum, dogs and pigs.
A Muslim believes if he shakes an non-believers hand, he has to wash his hands three times so he's clean, just like he touches shit and piss
Should us Atheists show any respect to these people, who deep down think of us as walking human form of shit?
If Atheists had one bit of courage they would be burning Korans publicly on a daily basis.
Islam is the same as racism an homophobia. It's funny how atheists don't get any protection unlike the poor victims of those other two evil ideas.
I don't know the laws in US, do neo-Nazis get protection under free speech or no? Even if they do, stuff like this easily puts Muslims on the same level as neo-Nazis.
Dude, Muslims actually do practice that shit! When I was working at Dunkin Donuts one of my Co-Workers was a Hindu lady, and one day this Muslim lady came into the coffee shop to order some stuff, but she refuesed to take anything that the Hindu lady touched, I was currently doing stock in the back and I had to come up to the front to make this womens order because she refused to accept anything from her. When I came to the front to see what was going on the lady explained to me that she couldn't take anything from her because she was Hindu. I so desperatly wanted to tell her that I was an Atheist but my the manager for this Dunks hated Atheist so I kept my mouth shut and made her coffee. I still to this day wish I would have just told the lady that I was a fucking atheist and that she would have to take coffee from one of us.
Quote from: Maldini on July 06, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
Koran 9:28
Now what you'll never know unless you've been an ex-Muslim like me, is that the word نجس which is translated " unclean" is a specific technical term in Islam, meaning the the dirty things that no Muslim should ever physically touch or keep in sight.
The list of official Islamic "dirty" things are shit, piss, cum, dogs and pigs, and the atheist.
And please keep in mind the fact that it's Quran's text, not an interpretation, not a Hadith, etc. It's the basic teaching of an Islam which every Muslim has to believe in otherwise they wouldn't be a Muslim.
They all truly and literally believe a non-believer, and that means any person who doesn't follow an Abrahamic religion, is a dirty object, same as shit, piss, cum, dogs and pigs.
A Muslim believes if he shakes an non-believers hand, he has to wash his hands three times so he's clean, just like he touches shit and piss
Should us Atheists show any respect to these people, who deep down think of us as walking human form of shit?
If Atheists had one bit of courage they would be burning Korans publicly on a daily basis.
Islam is the same as racism an homophobia. It's funny how atheists don't get any protection unlike the poor victims of those other two evil ideas.
I don't know the laws in US, do neo-Nazis get protection under free speech or no? Even if they do, stuff like this easily puts Muslims on the same level as neo-Nazis.
That's interesting. Then again, I have never read or touched a Koran.
Quote from: Munch on August 07, 2014, 07:13:20 AM
The Muslims, just like the Christians, are a group of cherry pickers, who ignore details in the faith they practice.
If whenever I see a muslim woman here in the uk walking around with a head scarf, I feel like walking up to her saying "either take that fucking thing off or cover your face, hands and feet completely, don't pick and choose the shit in your faith, either embrace it fully or don't follow it"
I used to feel the same way, but now I would say that 'moderate' islam is a stepping stone out and away from the fundie lunatics. Part of me thinks that going cold turkey would be a step too far for most muslims. Ideally I'd like to see the whole rotten ideology disappear asap, but practically it ain't gonna happen soon.