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Title: Google car.
Post by: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2014, 02:41:33 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/28/googles-self-driving-car-wont-even-have-a-steering-wheel/

This is really cool. A self driving car. I know google has been tinkering with the idea for a while and knowing that most accidents are because of user error (distracted driver, talking on the phone, drunk driving, simple driving mistakes) I'm all for this. For safety! And science.

Btw. If you want a good laugh, take a peek at the comments from the facebook post I found this on.
https://www.facebook.com/theblaze/posts/697479183622758

QuoteThe car looks so friendly with that cute little smiley face in front. It will smile all the way to the internment camps with people screaming and pleading to be let out. A new science fiction movie... I Obama.

QuoteSounds like a Democrat car. No way to control where it goes and no way to stop it.

QuotePut the obamas in them !
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: stromboli on May 28, 2014, 02:59:44 PM
Yeah I have issues with the no steering wheel. Largely because I'm a hands on guy.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: Moralnihilist on May 28, 2014, 03:03:37 PM
I wouldn't get one simply because I enjoy driving. I like to think Im quite good at it. I don't want or need a computer doing it for me.
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2014, 03:06:15 PM
Quote from: stromboli on May 28, 2014, 02:59:44 PM
Yeah I have issues with the no steering wheel. Largely because I'm a hands on guy.  :biggrin:
It's definitely odd. Not going to beat around the bush. I like driving, and the aspects of driving, steering, shifting, hitting the gas... I would feel weird getting around in one of them at first, but I bet that you get used to it after a while.

I think google already tested this car going across country, unless I missed that part of the article... I'll have to find the info about when they tested it going down highways with other cars. Apparently it only got in one accident and it was because another driver smashed in to the back of it.
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: Hydra009 on May 28, 2014, 03:25:26 PM
Driverless cars are my dream.  And we finally have the technology to make this thing possible.  When implemented, this would eliminate drunk/high/drowsy driving, virtually eliminate car accidents, reduce congestion through more efficient traffic patterns, automate menial transport work, reduce the need for parking facilities, and free up large blocks of free time otherwise spend in tedium.  You could eventually even place orders online, have your car drive over to the store, be loaded by staff, then drive back home.  It's the American dream.

Ideally, I'd like a system where self-driving is gradually phased in.  For example, have the car drive itself only on the highway and always have manual control available as an alternative, not unlike how cruise control is used now.  And gradually extend self-driving to all roads while eventually dispensing of manual control as the system is perfected.

That said, the initial resistance to stuff like this is going to be huge.  In addition to the ever-present resistance to change, people don't like to give up control, particularly to machines.  And as the quotes subtly allude to, the conservatives are definitely going to be the millstone for this (and every) major change.
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on May 28, 2014, 03:31:58 PM
I would hope the final version at least has an emergency manual override.
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on May 28, 2014, 04:00:19 PM
I think a semi-self driving car would be nice, but I wouldn't trust my life entirely to the computer.
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: DunkleSeele on May 28, 2014, 04:07:49 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on May 28, 2014, 03:27:27 PM
YAY, finally they made a car women can drive!  :flowers:
FIFY  :lol:

*running for my life*
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: Solitary on May 28, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on May 28, 2014, 04:00:19 PM
I think a semi-self driving car would be nice, but I wouldn't trust my life entirely to the computer.
If you fly commercial they are almost always under computer control, but they can over ride it.
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: Solitary on May 28, 2014, 04:24:25 PM
Quote from: Solitary on May 28, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
If you fly commercial they are almost always under computer control, but they can over ride it.
You are a brave PA, I''ll give you that. There is not anything worse than a woman scorned, accept a bunch of them. Good luck! Solitary
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: DunkleSeele on May 28, 2014, 05:11:08 PM
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QuoteQuote from: Solitary on Today at 22:21:13

    If you fly commercial they are almost always under computer control, but they can over ride it.

You are a brave PA, I''ll give you that. There is not anything worse than a woman scorned, accept a bunch of them. Good luck! Solitary

^^^
Problems with quoting, Sol?  :fU:
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 28, 2014, 05:17:37 PM
I still want my goddamned George Jetson flying car and won't be happy till my driveway is right outside my 7th floor window here at the YMCA! Get with the program Google! 
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 28, 2014, 07:26:04 PM
Wait a minute,  didn't that car have a flashing light on it? Well there you are. For safety put a flashing light on ALL cars.

Not that anyone would ever get used to that...
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: Johan on May 28, 2014, 07:49:29 PM
Quote from: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2014, 03:06:15 PM
I think google already tested this car going across country, unless I missed that part of the article... I'll have to find the info about when they tested it going down highways with other cars. Apparently it only got in one accident and it was because another driver smashed in to the back of it.

I'm too lazy to go look it up but IIRC google has been testing this technology for several years now. They've got something like 500,000 miles so far. There have been several accidents, but every one of them involved other cars hitting the google car while it was standing still.

Now here's a question for the group. Having self driving cars on the road is one thing. But how does everyone feel about the prospect of sharing the road with 80,000lb tractor trailers that have no driver? Its only a matter of time before that happens.
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2014, 07:54:06 PM
Quote from: Johan on May 28, 2014, 07:49:29 PM
I'm too lazy to go look it up but IIRC google has been testing this technology for several years now. They've got something like 500,000 miles so far. There have been several accidents, but every one of them involved other cars hitting the google car while it was standing still.

Now here's a question for the group. Having self driving cars on the road is one thing. But how does everyone feel about the prospect of sharing the road with 80,000lb tractor trailers that have no driver? Its only a matter of time before that happens.

If the tech works, it's better than what we have now. Obviously we have to wait for it to be developed enough but being friends with a few truck drivers, I know second hand that many go with little or no sleep, which is nearly as bad as driving drunk...  And worse in some cases.

A truck driven by a person that is drunk/over-tired driver is a much scarier thing than an auto piloted one

Sent via your mom.

Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: Johan on May 28, 2014, 07:57:33 PM
As for the prospect of a car with no manual controls or mirrors? Its a prototype announcement but I wouldn't put much weight on it just yet. I'm sure there will come a day when cars have no manual controls. But I'd bet money that will only happen when we get to the point where the vast majority of vehicles on the road are self driving with manual controls and most 'drivers' haven't actually touched those controls in years.

Its one thing for google to say they're going to build something. Its quite another for them to say people will want to buy it.
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2014, 08:02:08 PM
Quote from: Johan on May 28, 2014, 07:57:33 PM
As for the prospect of a car with no manual controls or mirrors? Its a prototype announcement but I wouldn't put much weight on it just yet. I'm sure there will come a day when cars have no manual controls. But I'd bet money that will only happen when we get to the point where the vast majority of vehicles on the road are self driving with manual controls and most 'drivers' haven't actually touched those controls in years.

Its one thing for google to say they're going to build something. Its quite another for them to say people will want to buy it.
obviously it would have to be a gradual thing. I personally think starting off with manual overrides, mirrors, etc would be a wise choice.


Sent via your mom.

Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 28, 2014, 09:50:58 PM
Look how long it took for most people to use seat belts and even today plenty of people refuse to use them. The gradual change from box and frame to unibody design still isn't trusted by many. People still believe they're safe with 4 tons of steel wrapped around them even though modern unibody design is made to absorb impact instead of tossing people through windshields.
The real change will be when people realize they can take a fucking nap on the freeway on the way to work or black out the windows and have sex on the freeway.
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: Jason78 on May 29, 2014, 04:34:26 AM
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on May 28, 2014, 09:50:58 PM
The real change will be when people realize they can take a fucking nap on the freeway on the way to work or black out the windows and have sex on the freeway.

What a time to be alive!
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: PickelledEggs on May 29, 2014, 04:42:28 AM
It's like that John Mayer song, Georgia.

"I am drivin'. Sixty Nine-in'...."
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: SGOS on May 29, 2014, 08:03:53 AM
I need something that I can ditch the cops with when I need to.
Title: Re: Google car.
Post by: Hydra009 on May 29, 2014, 09:43:09 AM
Quote from: SGOS on May 29, 2014, 08:03:53 AMI need something that I can ditch the cops with when I need to.
I didn't even think about that.  But at least you wouldn't get pulled over for like half the stuff they would ordinarily pull you over for.