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Title: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on February 25, 2014, 02:20:51 AM
According to some really bad text books in India it happened not to mention cutting trees produces CO3..
Sorry kids..You're not alone in bad text books in India..

//http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26325994
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on February 25, 2014, 02:45:48 AM
Ok, I don't know what the fuck is up with the CO3 thing, so I'm not going to even comment.

But...HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU THINK THAT JAPAN NUKED THE US? The only use of nukes against humans in history and you fuck up who did what to who? HOW?
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on February 25, 2014, 03:04:46 AM
It's India. What do you want? The next thing you know your calls for tech support will be forwarded there..  :-$
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: aitm on February 25, 2014, 08:47:28 AM
Its all due to that fucking Obama and his minions who planted the secret bombs in the towers. Sneaky rat bastard sand nigger......
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: SGOS on February 25, 2014, 09:12:00 AM
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"According to some really bad text books in India it happened not to mention cutting trees produces CO3..
Sorry kids..You're not alone in bad text books in India..

//http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-26325994
It seems to me the errors in the book were probably just stupid mistakes.  It would have helped if an adult had read the material before sending it to press.  None the less, they are glaring to say the least.
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on February 25, 2014, 09:14:17 AM
Ah yes, the nuking of Pearl Harbor on September 11th, 1941. A day that shall live in infamy.
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: Hydra009 on February 25, 2014, 11:10:50 AM
Reminds me of this (//http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/120637-Exam-Screw-Up-Implies-Giant-Robots-Took-Part-in-the-Russian-Revolution):

(//http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/394/394744.jpg)

 :lol:
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on February 25, 2014, 11:29:00 AM
For a long time in Mongolia it was taught that Japan and the US went to war with each other when the US attacked Japan at Pearl Harbor.

Anyone who tried to say it was the other way around was accused of practicing revisionist history.
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on February 25, 2014, 12:36:00 PM
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"For a long time in Mongolia it was taught that Japan and the US went to war with each other when the US attacked Japan at Pearl Harbor.

Anyone who tried to say it was the other way around was accused of practicing revisionist history.
I met a professor who was visiting Purdue back in 1996. He taught history at Moscow U. I casually asked him if the maps in an atlas of WWII with me were accurate. He check the Eastern Front maps and was a bit confused. But when he checked the other maps he was simply amazed. He said none of that had been taught in Russia. The Western Allies' contribution, as taught, was most Lend-Lease. D-Day was a large raid. The Pacific War consisted of the Red Army defeating Japan.
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: SGOS on February 25, 2014, 01:02:57 PM
Quote from: "Gawdzilla Sama"
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"For a long time in Mongolia it was taught that Japan and the US went to war with each other when the US attacked Japan at Pearl Harbor.

Anyone who tried to say it was the other way around was accused of practicing revisionist history.
I met a professor who was visiting Purdue back in 1996. He taught history at Moscow U. I casually asked him if the maps in an atlas of WWII with me were accurate. He check the Eastern Front maps and was a bit confused. But when he checked the other maps he was simply amazed. He said none of that had been taught in Russia. The Western Allies' contribution, as taught, was most Lend-Lease. D-Day was a large raid. The Pacific War consisted of the Red Army defeating Japan.
Holy Shit!  It makes me wonder how much of an illusion we all live under.  I can understand why India might not know who nuked who.  Their attention would probably be on other things besides that.  But the Russian perspective on WWII, given their intense, and I mean INTENSE involvement is comical.  D Day was kind of a big deal to us.  The siege of Leningrad was no doubt bigger deal for them, while it's just something we learn about here almost in passing.
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on February 25, 2014, 01:08:50 PM
Are you forgetting Christopher Columbus discovered Columbus Ohio? :lol:
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on February 25, 2014, 01:18:30 PM
Abraham Lincoln was born in a log cabin he built with his own hands.
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: josephpalazzo on February 25, 2014, 01:20:39 PM
Quote from: "SGOS"
Quote from: "Gawdzilla Sama"
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"For a long time in Mongolia it was taught that Japan and the US went to war with each other when the US attacked Japan at Pearl Harbor.

Anyone who tried to say it was the other way around was accused of practicing revisionist history.
I met a professor who was visiting Purdue back in 1996. He taught history at Moscow U. I casually asked him if the maps in an atlas of WWII with me were accurate. He check the Eastern Front maps and was a bit confused. But when he checked the other maps he was simply amazed. He said none of that had been taught in Russia. The Western Allies' contribution, as taught, was most Lend-Lease. D-Day was a large raid. The Pacific War consisted of the Red Army defeating Japan.
Holy Shit!  It makes me wonder how much of an illusion we all live under.  I can understand why India might not know who nuked who.  Their attention would probably be on other things besides that.  But the Russian perspective on WWII, given their intense, and I mean INTENSE involvement is comical.  D Day was kind of a big deal to us.  The siege of [s:qtnfjyt6]Leningrad[/s:qtnfjyt6] Stalingrad was no doubt bigger deal for them, while it's just something we learn about here almost in passing.

FIFY

 8-)
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: aitm on February 25, 2014, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: "Gawdzilla Sama"Abraham Lincoln was born in a log cabin he built with his own hands, and hunted vampires at night with an axe.

fify
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on February 25, 2014, 01:51:51 PM
I sometimes wonder if any of what we're taught as history is factual.  Some of it has to be true..right?
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on February 25, 2014, 05:19:17 PM
Quote from: "josephpalazzo"
QuoteHoly Shit!  It makes me wonder how much of an illusion we all live under.  I can understand why India might not know who nuked who.  Their attention would probably be on other things besides that.  But the Russian perspective on WWII, given their intense, and I mean INTENSE involvement is comical.  D Day was kind of a big deal to us.  The siege of [s:fq8wrkkv]Leningrad[/s:fq8wrkkv] Stalingrad was no doubt bigger deal for them, while it's just something we learn about here almost in passing.

FIFY

 8-)
Leningrad was 900 days and about 850,000 people died on the Soviet side.
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: josephpalazzo on February 25, 2014, 05:42:19 PM
Quote from: "Gawdzilla Sama"
Quote from: "josephpalazzo"
QuoteHoly Shit!  It makes me wonder how much of an illusion we all live under.  I can understand why India might not know who nuked who.  Their attention would probably be on other things besides that.  But the Russian perspective on WWII, given their intense, and I mean INTENSE involvement is comical.  D Day was kind of a big deal to us.  The siege of [s:34cln0sx]Leningrad[/s:34cln0sx] Stalingrad was no doubt bigger deal for them, while it's just something we learn about here almost in passing.

FIFY

 8-)
Leningrad was 900 days and about 850,000 people died on the Soviet side.

Stalingrad: lasted 5 months, 1 week and 3 days.

Approx. 1,120,000 killed, missing or wounded on the Russian side.

850,000 killed, missing or wounded on the German side.

More importantly, WW2 casualties of the Soviet Union from all related causes were over 20 millions both civilians and military, compared about 1 million on the American side, it is a big deal in Russia.
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: SilentFutility on February 25, 2014, 06:25:36 PM
You laugh but when two close friends first moved to Europe from America they thought that Pearl Harbour was an attack by the Americans on the Japanese mainland and that it ended WW2...

Unfortunately lack of education rears its head all over the place.  :-|
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on February 25, 2014, 06:47:04 PM
Quote from: "josephpalazzo"Stalingrad: lasted 5 months, 1 week and 3 days.

Approx. 1,120,000 killed, missing or wounded on the Russian side.

850,000 killed, missing or wounded on the German side.
The number I quoted was civilians only.
QuoteMore importantly, WW2 casualties of the Soviet Union from all related causes were over 20 millions both civilians and military, compared about 1 million on the American side, it is a big deal in Russia.

When you have two dictators butting heads things get crappy for the little guys. And didn't Stalin kill more people than than with his pen?
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on February 25, 2014, 07:04:40 PM
And some wonder why Ukranians might not want to play with Russians.. Could it be a disregard for human life?
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: Hydra009 on February 26, 2014, 01:50:52 AM
Quote from: "SilentFutility"You laugh but when two close friends first moved to Europe from America they thought that Pearl Harbour was an attack by the Americans on the Japanese mainland and that it ended WW2...

Unfortunately lack of education rears its head all over the place.  :-|
I've met someone who thought the Italians were Allies in WWII, lol.
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: josephpalazzo on February 26, 2014, 08:18:57 AM
Quote from: "Gawdzilla Sama"
Quote from: "josephpalazzo"Stalingrad: lasted 5 months, 1 week and 3 days.

Approx. 1,120,000 killed, missing or wounded on the Russian side.

850,000 killed, missing or wounded on the German side.
The number I quoted was civilians only.
QuoteMore importantly, WW2 casualties of the Soviet Union from all related causes were over 20 millions both civilians and military, compared about 1 million on the American side, it is a big deal in Russia.

When you have two dictators butting heads things get crappy for the little guys. And didn't Stalin kill more people than than with his pen?


Agree.
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: SilentFutility on February 26, 2014, 12:02:21 PM
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"I sometimes wonder if any of what we're taught as history is factual.  Some of it has to be true..right?
Well if you're taught history properly you're taught what we think we know, and why we think we know this, and how accurate this assessment of available information is.

Having someone dictate what happened is not learning history, it is training to parrot back information.
Unfortunately this is in fact how many people are 'taught', especially in subjects like history.

Really studying history is an exercise in critical thinking, not memory recall.
Title: Re: Japan nuked the US in WWII?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on February 26, 2014, 12:30:19 PM
Quote from: "SilentFutility"
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"I sometimes wonder if any of what we're taught as history is factual.  Some of it has to be true..right?
Well if you're taught history properly you're taught what we think we know, and why we think we know this, and how accurate this assessment of available information is.

Having someone dictate what happened is not learning history, it is training to parrot back information.
Unfortunately this is in fact how many people are 'taught', especially in subjects like history.

Really studying history is an exercise in critical thinking, not memory recall.
Yep, the question is one of historiography, and if it's done correctly. It was a required course for first semester grad students at Purdue and I found it endlessly helpful.