It's on in an hour or so, but rubes are publicizing not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 "responses" staring their crazies. This ought to be a hoot. :popcorn:
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"It's on in an hour or so, but rubes are publicizing not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 "responses" staring their crazies. This ought to be a hoot. :popcorn:
I don't remember when they started having responses.
The State of the Union was and is a report from the Executive Branch to the Legislative Branch about how the year has gone and to suggest legislation that would improve things, but now it has become this crazy political thing where by conservaturds deny reality right after the president has told it.
It's a"media" event and campaigning on the public nickel which on the face of it sounds like a democratic idea, but dig down a bit and it's grandstanding at best.
yeah, its actually required, I believe, to give your speech to the opposition a day early so they can hammer out their response.
Quote from: "aitm"yeah, its actually required, I believe, to give your speech to the opposition a day early so they can hammer out their response.
I can't remember the president that actually went to Congress to give the address but it was first sent as a letter to both houses. I actually believe it was Hoover who was late with the letter and decided to just appear in person to deliver the address. Okay I found the history of the State of the Union.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/sou.php (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/sou.php)
I'm watching it here.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sotu (http://www.whitehouse.gov/sotu)
GOD BLESS UHMURICAH
Well, anyway...soon as they stop clapping and attempting to look like badasses...
He's poking em in the eye a bit.. That's good. =D>
Well...ok speech or so so or less than? What do you think?
I liked it. if only the repukes weren't such shitasses and would let obama's agenda come to past, making us better off.
The rube response sucked.. Now yall pray now, hear? [-X
As much as I love politics, I don't bother watching these. I'll let professionals pull out the highlights for me...
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"The rube response sucked.. Now yall pray now, hear? [-X
Yeah I thought that was funny. The republican plan is end government and pray for a better life.
Replace health care with prayer. :-k If I'm not mistaken that was tried in the dark ages.
Quote from: "mykcob4"Quote from: "aitm"yeah, its actually required, I believe, to give your speech to the opposition a day early so they can hammer out their response.
I can't remember the president that actually went to Congress to give the address but it was first sent as a letter to both houses. I actually believe it was Hoover who was late with the letter and decided to just appear in person to deliver the address. Okay I found the history of the State of the Union.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/sou.php (http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/sou.php)
Washington showed up to give the report in person but Jefferson just sent a written report. It was Wilson I believe who started the speech thing again. I wish they'd go back to mailing it in.
The rubes a few months ago hated everyone and everything and suddenly they LOVE everyone? Yeah, right.. nice try spin masters. :roll:
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"It's on in an hour or so, but rubes are publicizing not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 "responses" staring their crazies. This ought to be a hoot. :popcorn:
Let me sum this up for you quick, #-o [-o< ](*,) :-({|= :blahblah: :---) :finga: =D>
Wait, isn't that a depiction of Wolf Blitzer cowtowing to rubes on CNN?
I didn't bother watching. Just bad political theater.
"oh look, now the democrats are clapping and standing while the republicans sit quietly. Was Boehner just scratching or secretly flipping off Obama behind his back? Was Joe Biden bored by the speech? "
if anybody who missed it wants to watch it, here's the video.
[youtube:2brpjv3e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hed1nP9X7pI[/youtube:2brpjv3e]
Another speech filled with false promises and empty phrases. Obama is just a tool puppet president.
All presidents are tool puppet presidents.
obama's nowhere near the progressive I wish he was but the fact is if he could implement his ideas, we'd be better off. We can't though because of the worthless teabagger shitstains in the congress who block everything even their own ideas (when Obama agrees to them) out of spite for the president.
Quote from: "aitm"yeah, its actually required, I believe, to give your speech to the opposition a day early so they can hammer out their response.
LOL I thought you were going with "required to report on the state of the union to congress." I don't know who circulates these things beforehand or why, but I don't post my grocery list on the internet the day before I go shopping. I don't see why either one of these events is of such significant import.
Last night was a convention of corrupt assholes dressed in their finest for an appearance on TV. Today is just like Yesterday. The government is still broken.
It's fascinating how people today seem to believe that they actually have a relevant influence on what their government does forgetting that the very nature of our system offers everything for sale. The only vote that counts is the monetary vote and it doesn't matter how much any activist yells about ethics and accountability. In a market system, every politician, every legislation and hence, every government is for sale. And even with the 20 trillion dollar bank bailouts starting in 2007 an amount of money which could have changed say, the global energy infrastructure to fully renewable methods instead of going to a series of institutions that literally do nothing to help society institutions that could be removed tomorrow with no recourse, the blind conditioning that politics and politicians exist for the public well-being still continues. The fact is, politics is a business - no different than any other in a market system and they care about their self-interest before anything else.
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"It's on in an hour or so, but rubes are publicizing not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 "responses" staring their crazies. This ought to be a hoot. :popcorn:
There's no such thing as an official response. Anyone can make a response, it is up to you to decide if the response amounts to anything.
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"It's on in an hour or so, but rubes are publicizing not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 "responses" staring their crazies. This ought to be a hoot. :popcorn:
There's no such thing as an official response. Anyone can make a response, it is up to you to decide if the response amounts to anything.
there you go again. There were no less than 4 official responses, one made by your hero Rand Paul and his libertarian idealism of no government.
Here's one from another hero of yours Tea Partier Mike Lee, Ted Cruz's right hand man:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01 ... n-address/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/28/sen-mike-lee-delivers-official-tea-party-response-to-obamas-state-of-the-union-address/)
In other news rube congressman Micheal Grimm threatened to throw reporter over the balcony and break him 'like a boy'.
Great guys those rubes..so compasionate. #-o
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/m ... 02808.html (http://www.politico.com/story/2014/01/michael-grimm-apologizes-reporter-102808.html)
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"It's on in an hour or so, but rubes are publicizing not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 "responses" staring their crazies. This ought to be a hoot. :popcorn:
There's no such thing as an official response. Anyone can make a response, it is up to you to decide if the response amounts to anything.
Official as in it is recognized as by the party and not just the words of an independent party.
Quote from: "mykcob4"Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"It's on in an hour or so, but rubes are publicizing not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 "responses" staring their crazies. This ought to be a hoot. :popcorn:
There's no such thing as an official response. Anyone can make a response, it is up to you to decide if the response amounts to anything.
there you go again. There were no less than 4 official responses, one made by your hero Rand Paul and his libertarian idealism of no government.
Here's one from another hero of yours Tea Partier Mike Lee, Ted Cruz's right hand man:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01 ... n-address/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/28/sen-mike-lee-delivers-official-tea-party-response-to-obamas-state-of-the-union-address/)
His dad is someone I respect. But you can't tell the difference between Rand Paul and Ron Paul, and you also can't tell the difference between Ron Paul and Ted Cruz You think they are all the same person, one big amorphous blog of people who disagree with you, all the same person.
So, where in the constitution do you find the official response? There is no such thing. Anyone can make a response. You can make a response and call it your official response.
Yeah yeah Jason. Libertarians are all special snowflakes.. We get it.. =D>
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"So, where in the constitution do you find the official response? There is no such thing. Anyone can make a response. You can make a response and call it your official response.
Now you're just grasping at straws. The response is not in the Constitution. That isn't what makes the response official. What makes it official are the elected officials that state that their response IS an official response of their party's position to the State of the Union. When the amorphous blog quits acting in lockstep obedience to the same old failed tactic and ideas, I'll see them differently. As of right now they all obey the Koch brothers and FOX.
Quote from: "Plu"All presidents are tool puppet presidents.
Yep, sucks but there it is.
The constitution doesn't mention stop signs and yet every city has them. Coincidence? I think not! [-(
The Constitution doesn't say a thing about "official press conferences" but they still exist and are still "official."
Quote from: "mykcob4"When the amorphous blog quits acting in lockstep obedience to the same old failed tactic and ideas, I'll see them differently.
So you don't believe that libertarians and conservatives are the same. Glad to know you've finally grown up a little.
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"Quote from: "mykcob4"When the amorphous blog quits acting in lockstep obedience to the same old failed tactic and ideas, I'll see them differently.
So you don't believe that libertarians and conservatives are the same. Glad to know you've finally grown up a little.
If he actually thought that, I'd have to ask him to account for the fact that I'm a liberal libertarian. :)
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"Quote from: "mykcob4"When the amorphous blog quits acting in lockstep obedience to the same old failed tactic and ideas, I'll see them differently.
So you don't believe that libertarians and conservatives are the same. Glad to know you've finally grown up a little.
Quit lying about what I believe and you can keep your condescending bullshit also. Why don't YOU grow up!
Quote from: "mykcob4"Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"Quote from: "mykcob4"When the amorphous blog quits acting in lockstep obedience to the same old failed tactic and ideas, I'll see them differently.
So you don't believe that libertarians and conservatives are the same. Glad to know you've finally grown up a little.
Quit lying about what I believe and you can keep your condescending bullshit also. Why don't YOU grow up!
Do you tell your teachers that when they correct you in class? Seriously.
:roll: :popcorn: Solitary
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When he touched upon alternative power I was disappointed that he didn't mention nuclear. Is the anti nuclear movement really powerful enough here that building new reactors isn't an option? We have much safer, more efficient designs now, we just need to build the damn things.
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"Do you tell your teachers that when they correct you in class? Seriously.
Another attempt at being a condescending asshole, and hey you succeeded!
Quote from: "mykcob4"Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"Do you tell your teachers that when they correct you in class? Seriously.
Another attempt at being a condescending asshole, and hey you succeeded!
Someone is mad that I'm returning to him the treatment he gives to others.
Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"Quote from: "mykcob4"When the amorphous blog quits acting in lockstep obedience to the same old failed tactic and ideas, I'll see them differently.
So you don't believe that libertarians and conservatives are the same. Glad to know you've finally grown up a little.
If he actually thought that, I'd have to ask him to account for the fact that I'm a liberal libertarian. :)
I was thinking pretty much the same thing. Reminds me of a Princess Bride quote... "I don't think that means what you think it means."
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"Quote from: "mykcob4"Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"Do you tell your teachers that when they correct you in class? Seriously.
Another attempt at being a condescending asshole, and hey you succeeded!
Someone is mad that I'm returning to him the treatment he gives to others.
No goofball I'm not pissed. I just pointed out that you are being an asshole. You want to interject insults it's on you not me. Besides your behavior is your own. Nothing anyone else does justifies your behavior.
So how long have you two had this little lovers spat going on anyway? You know it will probably wipe out a city or two. :-$
Jason, mykcob4, I think y'all should get a room. LOL
Why do I have a weird image of Judy Garland singing Over the Rainbow? :-k
How many threads have they been going at it? Someone needs to make a sitcom! :lol:
Quote from: "Skeletal Atheist"How many threads have they been going at it? Someone needs to make a sitcom! :lol:
OMG! You could do something ... you know...
gay and render their typing fingers mute and then SATAN can settle this once and for all! :lol:
By the way.. I pick on anyone who presents an easy target. That sounds soooo gay doesn't it? :shock:
His mentor told him that when he's out of facts he should throw insults. He's been out of facts for a long time.
Quote from: "Jason_Harvestdancer"His mentor told him that when he's out of facts he should throw insults. He's been out of facts for a long time.
I know that you are out of facts so now you are reduced to making up your own facts. That is called revisionism and it isn't credible!