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Title: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: _Xenu_ on January 15, 2014, 06:11:36 AM
Police raided his house and sought video footage related to vandalism of next door neighbors house after dispute. If the damage exceeds $950, its a felony. Damage is currently estimated at $20,000.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/14/showbiz/e ... ism-probe/ (http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/14/showbiz/ent-justin-bieber-vandalism-probe/)

It looks like the Internet may finally get its wish: Bieber in jail.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Shiranu on January 15, 2014, 06:45:04 AM
I feel bad for him... white trash who was instantly thrust into fame and fortune... never stood a chance. What good is being as rich as he is when you are clearly not a happy individual?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on January 15, 2014, 09:00:55 AM
Wait, people still care about Justin Bieber? I mean don't get me wrong, I don't much care for his music, but the guy became popular around the same time as Twilight, and the hatedom for that mostly died off even before the 3rd movie.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Shiranu on January 15, 2014, 09:02:58 AM
Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"Wait, people still care about Justin Bieber? I mean don't get me wrong, I don't much care for his music, but the guy became popular around the same time as Twilight, and the hatedom for that mostly died off even before the 3rd movie.

He has tried his best to keep himself relevant, but it kinda feels like Lindsay Lohan... who cares anymore?

I think he is still a teen (he might have hit 20 though)... once he leaves teenage-hood, I think he will fall out of the camera extremely fast as the music industry and teenage girls swoon over the next teenage star.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: leo on January 15, 2014, 09:18:13 AM
Quote from: "Shiranu"
Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"Wait, people still care about Justin Bieber? I mean don't get me wrong, I don't much care for his music, but the guy became popular around the same time as Twilight, and the hatedom for that mostly died off even before the 3rd movie.

He has tried his best to keep himself relevant, but it kinda feels like Lindsay Lohan... who cares anymore?

I think he is still a teen (he might have hit 20 though)... once he leaves teenage-hood, I think he will fall out of the camera extremely fast as the music industry and teenage girls swoon over the next teenage star.
I don't get it . Why teen girls swoon over sissy guys  ? :-k
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Jason78 on January 15, 2014, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: "leo"I don't get it . Why teen girls swoon over sissy guys  ? :-k

Because they are idiots.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 15, 2014, 10:39:46 AM
Could be a good thing. Throw him  in with a bunch really butch guys and they can teach him how to dress. After they undress him.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Youssuf Ramadan on January 15, 2014, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"Wait, people still care about Justin Bieber? I mean don't get me wrong, I don't much care for his music, but the guy became popular around the same time as Twilight, and the hatedom for that mostly died off even before the 3rd movie.

Probably because he's the poster boy for all that is insipid, soulless and cheesy in pop music.  If it hadn't been him, it would have been another pretty-boy poplet.  *shrug*
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 15, 2014, 11:02:14 AM
This is a kid who needs to be taken a long way out of his comfort zone and introduced to a new and much harsher reality. He will not spend a day in jail, and will only become more empowered in his arrogance.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: leo on January 15, 2014, 11:16:26 AM
Quote from: "stromboli"This is a kid who needs to be taken a long way out of his comfort zone and introduced to a new and much harsher reality. He will not spend a day in jail, and will only become more empowered in his arrogance.
^^ this .
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Sal1981 on January 15, 2014, 11:27:25 AM
Unless he gets his act straight by the time he's 25, he's gonna be washed out before he hits 30, is all I'm gonna guess.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on January 15, 2014, 12:00:50 PM
Quote from: "stromboli"This is a kid who needs to be taken a long way out of his comfort zone and introduced to a new and much harsher reality. He will not spend a day in jail, and will only become more empowered in his arrogance.
His popularity is entirely based on being a teen star. He turns 20 this year. Just wait awhile, his time will come.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 15, 2014, 12:46:24 PM
Oh now how can you big fat meanies be so uncaring about Justin?  I mean REALLY!  :shock:

So what he's po white trash made artificially famous and annoying to the point where 99.99% of everyone wants to see his wannabe gangsta ass tossed in the father raper group W bench wing of the slammer..  Somebody needs a hug...a great big rocking group W hug!  :rock:
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: GrinningYMIR on January 15, 2014, 01:42:06 PM
Fuck him

He pissed me off the day he disrespected my sport. So

Fuck him
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: leo on January 15, 2014, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: "Jason78"
Quote from: "leo"I don't get it . Why teen girls swoon over sissy guys  ? :-k

Because they are idiots.
Yes but this still puzzles me. Girls swoon over manly good looking guys . That would be the expected thing. Girls swoon over girly sissy guys ?  #-o  #-o
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Youssuf Ramadan on January 15, 2014, 03:43:26 PM
Quote from: "leo"
Quote from: "Jason78"
Quote from: "leo"I don't get it . Why teen girls swoon over sissy guys  ? :-k

Because they are idiots.
Yes but this still puzzles me. Girls swoon over manly good looking guys . That would be the expected thing. Girls swoon over girly sissy guys ?  #-o  #-o

Money, power and status.  If he was on the dole they wouldn't look twice.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Solitary on January 15, 2014, 05:09:20 PM
He's still a spoiled brat that needs a rude awakening, which he may get now when Bubba gets a hold of him.  :shock:  #-o  Solitary
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: PickelledEggs on January 15, 2014, 06:16:25 PM
He's just Marky Mark mk2 He'll drift away in to nothingness and start acting in movies. He does have a pretty good voice, but like shiranu said, he was sort of... forced in to the music market.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on January 15, 2014, 06:41:11 PM
Good. From what I've seen he's been a disrespectful little fucker.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 15, 2014, 06:49:43 PM
I think its like a maternal instinct thing, sort of the cuddling babies gene. I knew a guy in the Navy that was 20 and looked like he was 16, a real wimp, and he got women like crazy. I do not know why.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 15, 2014, 10:37:52 PM
All because nobody ever slapped some sense into the little twerp.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: gussy on January 16, 2014, 12:15:38 AM
Egging a house caused $20,000 in damage?  My house got egged and a couple hours with a power hose did the trick.  Teenagers doing stupid shit happens.  I used to be one and engaged in some stupid shit as well.  Have them clean up trash on the highway for a week or two.  Send them to sort junk at the recycling center.  Pretend this has nothing to do with Justin Bieber. Pretend it was a few dopey teens living down the street from you.  Would you really want them to go to prison for egging a house?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 16, 2014, 01:24:52 AM
Yeah, this is way overblown. Apparently his buddy rapper had either ecstasy or cocaine, but anything that happens to him will be arbitrated away. And $20,000 for egging is absurd. I've had a house egged, and it was all of ten minutes with a hose and brush to fix.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 16, 2014, 10:14:10 AM
Yeah.. forced prison anal rape is a bit harsh even for Bieber.. Now had he been caught throwing new born infants at the house it might be a little different.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: BarkAtTheMoon on January 16, 2014, 04:23:12 PM
Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"
Quote from: "stromboli"This is a kid who needs to be taken a long way out of his comfort zone and introduced to a new and much harsher reality. He will not spend a day in jail, and will only become more empowered in his arrogance.
His popularity is entirely based on being a teen star. He turns 20 this year. Just wait awhile, his time will come.

He's also surrounded himself with rappers and other assorted thugs who are no doubt spending his money at an enormous rate. He's gonna go down, he's gonna go down hard, and it'll probably be pretty soon. He'll be lucky if he isn't broke, in jail, or dead in 5-10 years.

He'll just write a check to make this whole thing go away.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: wolf39us on January 16, 2014, 07:26:33 PM
Quote from: "stromboli"Yeah, this is way overblown. Apparently his buddy rapper had either ecstasy or cocaine, but anything that happens to him will be arbitrated away. And $20,000 for egging is absurd. I've had a house egged, and it was all of ten minutes with a hose and brush to fix.

These are also very expensive houses...

given enough time... eggs can do permanent damage
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 16, 2014, 07:52:27 PM
Raise your hand to be removed if you actually care.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Hydra009 on January 17, 2014, 03:41:18 AM
Quote from: "gussy"Egging a house caused $20,000 in damage?  My house got egged and a couple hours with a power hose did the trick.
Yeah, that's a bit excessive.

Apparently, it works like this:

[youtube:2vrnh4gw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgT0uzzX1bs[/youtube:2vrnh4gw]
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: barbarian on January 17, 2014, 05:35:38 AM
Quote from: "The Skeletal Atheist"Good. From what I've seen he's been a disrespectful little fucker.


Pretty much wraps up I think of this fucktard.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Jason78 on January 17, 2014, 05:50:00 AM
Quote from: "Solitary"He's still a spoiled brat that needs a rude awakening, which he may get now when Bubba gets a hold of him.  :shock:  #-o  Solitary

Yay!  American prison rape!

Rather than wish Bubba would do your dirty work for you, why don't you do it yourself Solitary?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Atheon on January 17, 2014, 08:00:22 AM
Quote from: "leo"
Quote from: "Jason78"
Quote from: "leo"I don't get it . Why teen girls swoon over sissy guys  ? :-k

Because they are idiots.
Yes but this still puzzles me. Girls swoon over manly good looking guys . That would be the expected thing. Girls swoon over girly sissy guys ?  #-o  #-o
Long history.

Leif Garrett, Davy Jones, etc.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: _Xenu_ on January 17, 2014, 09:12:33 AM
Quote from: "Jason78"
Quote from: "Solitary"He's still a spoiled brat that needs a rude awakening, which he may get now when Bubba gets a hold of him.  :shock:  #-o  Solitary

Yay!  American prison rape!

Rather than wish Bubba would do your dirty work for you, why don't you do it yourself Solitary?
I'm not in prison, nor into guys. BTW Jason, you have a face that reminds me of something...
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Jason78 on January 17, 2014, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: "_Xenu_"
Quote from: "Jason78"
Quote from: "Solitary"He's still a spoiled brat that needs a rude awakening, which he may get now when Bubba gets a hold of him.  :shock:  #-o  Solitary

Yay!  American prison rape!

Rather than wish Bubba would do your dirty work for you, why don't you do it yourself Solitary?
I'm not in prison, nor into guys. BTW Jason, you have a face that reminds me of something...

Are you and Solitary the same person?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 17, 2014, 10:48:59 AM
I wouldn't wish butt rape on anyone. On the other hand, I hear gay men refer to him as having a "pouty little mouth"......... :shock:
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 17, 2014, 11:15:55 AM
Anyone thinking prison rape is a solution to anything really needs to read No Escape, Male rape in US prisons. http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison (http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison)
As much as I dislike Bieber having him tossed to animals in prison isn't going to magically transform him into an upstanding citizen. If you believe that sort of thinking then belief in gods should make even more sense.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: the_antithesis on January 17, 2014, 11:56:47 AM
Who?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: leo on January 17, 2014, 12:02:43 PM
Quote from: "the_antithesis"Who?
The famous girly sissy kid.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: the_antithesis on January 17, 2014, 12:21:56 PM
Quote from: "leo"
Quote from: "the_antithesis"Who?
The famous girly sissy kid.

I think it is presumptuous to call this person famous.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on January 17, 2014, 01:18:29 PM
Quote from: "stromboli"I wouldn't wish butt rape on anyone. On the other hand, I hear gay men refer to him as having a "pouty little mouth"......... :shock:
You speak to very different gays then I do, then. Now that I think of it though, he does have some DSL.

[spoil:217z6psf]Dick Sucking Lips[/spoil:217z6psf]
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 17, 2014, 06:02:49 PM
Quote from: "The Skeletal Atheist"
Quote from: "stromboli"I wouldn't wish butt rape on anyone. On the other hand, I hear gay men refer to him as having a "pouty little mouth"......... :shock:
You speak to very different gays then I do, then. Now that I think of it though, he does have some DSL.

[spoil:38hi0bnn]Dick Sucking Lips[/spoil:38hi0bnn]
(//http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q490/atheola/Justin-Bieber-image-justin-bieber-36174433-2000-187_edit_1389999503081.jpeg)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 17, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
Ha!
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Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: Hijiri Byakuren on January 17, 2014, 11:22:16 PM
(//http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/101/099/justinbiebershotandkill.gif)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: _Xenu_ on January 23, 2014, 07:07:43 PM
Bieber in his jail clothes:

http://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb- ... 20541.html (http://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/justin-bieber-193920541.html)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 23, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
Wouldn't you know it...no rapture either! 8-[
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: leo on January 23, 2014, 07:20:02 PM
According to the police report this sissy bieber dude is 5'9 tall.  :roll: Yeah right. This girly  dude is 5'6 at best.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 23, 2014, 07:23:25 PM
Quote from: "leo"According to the police report this sissy bieber dude is 5'9 tall.  :roll: Yeah right. This girly  dude is 5'6 at best.
You have to count that 3 inches of hair gel dude!  [-X
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: aitm on January 23, 2014, 07:28:24 PM
Quote from: "leo"
Quote from: "Shiranu"
Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"Wait, people still care about Justin Bieber? I mean don't get me wrong, I don't much care for his music, but the guy became popular around the same time as Twilight, and the hatedom for that mostly died off even before the 3rd movie.

He has tried his best to keep himself relevant, but it kinda feels like Lindsay Lohan... who cares anymore?

I think he is still a teen (he might have hit 20 though)... once he leaves teenage-hood, I think he will fall out of the camera extremely fast as the music industry and teenage girls swoon over the next teenage star.
I don't get it . Why teen girls swoon over sissy guys  ? :-k

these little girls are not interested in sex, they want to hold hands and rub each other, its a young girls pre-puberty get-off.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 23, 2014, 07:39:16 PM
Bieber moved on from bubblegum to rap/hiphop/whateverthefuckthatmeans..as if anyone cares.., :-?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 23, 2014, 07:55:41 PM
Yo homeboy, the Beibs got some serious street cred now.   :punk:
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: SilentFutility on January 23, 2014, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"[ Image (//http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/101/099/justinbiebershotandkill.gif) ]
[youtube:15032oh8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrV1MEyJqWU[/youtube:15032oh8]
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 23, 2014, 08:11:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h--iU49AjTQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h--iU49AjTQ)

 :-D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 23, 2014, 09:52:19 PM
You are aware the only thing Bieber has to sell is a nation's hate for him. He should do porno flicks with virginal elderly women and he'd be hated slightly less, but wouldn't be as rich.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 24, 2014, 02:35:57 AM
I need to explain about girly dudes. See, there are men that get women because they are manly and all dripping testosterone and shit, and there are men that get women by being all socially aware and know how to talk them up and get them feeling safe and comfortable, and there are girly dudes. Girly dudes get women because they trigger maternal instincts in women. They look all helpless and trembly with puppy dog eyes, and the women just want to take them home and rip off their bras and shove a nipple in their mouth. Seriously.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 24, 2014, 03:43:40 AM
Stop it. :pirate: I'm almost considering becoming a girly dude if I can get all those nipples shoved at my face.  :-k
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: VladK on January 24, 2014, 12:36:30 PM
I would people would stop paying attention to him, he's a troll in real life, an attention whore who makes money of drama.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: leo on January 24, 2014, 12:40:05 PM
Quote from: "stromboli"I need to explain about girly dudes. See, there are men that get women because they are manly and all dripping testosterone and shit, and there are men that get women by being all socially aware and know how to talk them up and get them feeling safe and comfortable, and there are girly dudes. Girly dudes get women because they trigger maternal instincts in women. They look all helpless and trembly with puppy dog eyes, and the women just want to take them home and rip off their bras and shove a nipple in their mouth. Seriously.
This  make  sense.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: leo on January 24, 2014, 12:42:16 PM
I don't get it . Why teen girls swoon over sissy guys  ? :-k[/quote]

these little girls are not interested in sex, they want to hold hands and rub each other, its a young girls pre-puberty get-off.[/quote]
Now I'm seeing a better picture.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 24, 2014, 12:47:11 PM
Quote from: "VladK"I would people would stop paying attention to him, he's a troll in real life, an attention whore who makes money off drama.

True. If I were a judge, I could fix that young man with one word: lumberjack.

Sentence him to 3 months in the tall timber, swinging a double bladed axe and climbing trees with a chainsaw to top them off and riding a raft of logs downriver with nothing but a Peavey between you and frigid death. Will make him a man in no time. Or kill him. Either way, an improvement.  :-D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 24, 2014, 01:02:02 PM
I just realized I'm to old to get nipples shoved in my face pretending to be a girly dude.  DAMMIT!  :evil:  8-)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 26, 2014, 10:06:21 AM
Apparently the little twerp is now all smiles and getting off on the media attention. We need a desert island for this guy, with no communication. Throw Paris Hilton and Kardashians on there as well, and the Duck Dynasty meatbrains.

And that "Turtleman" guy. Apparently all his captures are staged.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 26, 2014, 10:24:41 AM
Ehh..he's a twirp no doubt, but really strom, don't let him threaten your masculinity unless the wifey is talkin about running off to be a beibgroupie.. :-k  I know it's harsh, but it's for your own good.  MAN UP DAMMIT!  :evil:  :)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: ApostateLois on January 26, 2014, 10:52:59 AM
How could egging a house do twenty-grand in damages? If it really is that much, they must have broken some windows and spray-painted graffiti, or something.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 26, 2014, 11:02:44 AM
When I was a mere child of 5 or 6 I got caught egging the house next door and had to spend all day on a chair scrubbing it off, but it didn't all come off and ten years later there was still egg residue there. But dammit! They're RICH and having a minute amout of egg residue on their house could cause such emotional distress, pain and suffering that GOD knows what sort of mental state they may end up in years later.  :shock:
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on January 26, 2014, 02:01:57 PM
Quote from: "ApostateLois"How could egging a house do twenty-grand in damages? If it really is that much, they must have broken some windows and spray-painted graffiti, or something.
I imagine the house in question is unbelievably expensive to us normal folk.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: aitm on January 26, 2014, 09:11:01 PM
I once tossed a sparkler across the street with a friend and the old tar/asphalt lot caught fire and several cars were out there and the theatre had to be evacuated and the fire department and .....ay yi yi......we hid in the attic..  :-$
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: stromboli on January 26, 2014, 09:20:54 PM
Just wondering, what is the statutory limit on arson in your area?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: aitm on January 26, 2014, 09:22:41 PM
Quote from: "stromboli"Just wondering, what is the statutory limit on arson in your area?
I was 13....think I am safe.....maybe
Title: Re: Justin Bieber Could Face Felony Charges
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on January 26, 2014, 10:48:39 PM
When I was 10 a friend and I were out in the woods playing caveman and as any self respecting caveman knows you gotta be A. BAREFOOT and B. Have a torch handy, real fire on a stick and it has to be dry in the fall.
We ran home stealthy-like with smoke pouring of the woods and called the proper authorities using assumed names. It worked until about 9pm when the fire chief showed up at our front door and I had the foresight to answer that door of the damned.  :roll: