QuoteThey are often cheaters who waste other member's time trying to impress and garner attention with immature nonsense. It is also against community guidelines and that should be enough for most mature contributors to want them out of here.Trolls tend to be unhappy loner losers with few if any true friends they cheat at school, at sports,at most every thing, obviously they lack in self respect so they show little respect for other people here on the atheist forum and in other aspects of life
Sound familiar Eve? :roll: Solitary
Quote from: "Solitary"QuoteThey are often cheaters who waste other member's time trying to impress and garner attention with immature nonsense. It is also against community guidelines and that should be enough for most mature contributors to want them out of here.Trolls tend to be unhappy loner losers with few if any true friends they cheat at school, at sports,at most every thing, obviously they lack in self respect so they show little respect for other people here on the atheist forum and in other aspects of life
Sound familiar Eve? :roll: Solitary
What about the jack dude ?
Ah the old troll motivation conundrum.
Why, why, why!!!!
[youtube:2m8mb1ga]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHqGV5WjS4w[/youtube:2m8mb1ga]
Know thy enemy.
My first guess is that they get off on doing something pointless. Why do they get off on it? I don't know.
What a brilliant talk :D
Trolls are nothing new. You probably knew several in school. You know, the asshole in class everyone hated, generally a bully, ate paste, etc.. Then they move on and find a way to be an asshole from the safety of home.. meh..
Attention and recognition, even if negative
The emotional release of venting
Power (the power to disrupt)
Vandalism
The thrill of breaking social conventions
Sabotaging groups the troll dislikes
Immaturity
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"Trolls are nothing new. You probably knew several in school. You know, the asshole in class everyone hated, generally a bully, ate paste, etc.. Then they move on and find a way to be an asshole from the safety of home.. meh..
Wrong. They become police officers and politicians. I have direct experience of this, growing up in a small town.
Yeah I think there is a difference between people who do it because they like the feeling of power (ie; bullies) and people who do it for the lulz (the real trolls).
I don't have time to do anything like that. I assume this is done by people who are lazy and have nothing else on their plate to deal with. Sad.
It depends on the type. Trolls like those that come here or go to other forums to annoy people are probably sad people, but trolls like the guy in the talk posted above and many other high tech ones sound more like really smart people who just don't really know what to do with their time. They still build very impressive things; just with less practical application.
The fact is that there are professional trolls sponsored by megachurches and religious groups. They find a site and set banks of computers on those sites sending volumes of images of aborted fetises and the like. They also cultivate trolls like Eve whose purpose is to totally disrupt a site and render it disfunctional and causing it to lose popularity and die.
That's there aim to end all voices but their own.
Well..of late here I've seen people continuously feed the troll(s) calling them chew toys, but their effect it to disrupt things, call attention to themselves and it'll serve nothing except to attract more of them.
That's why I'm more than happy to not engage and argue with them. Now if I could reach through my phone with an oak stick and beat them over the.head I might feel differently, but I can't so I don't.
As far as Im concerned Eve is merely irrelevant, nothing more, nothing less.
Quote from: "mykcob4"The fact is that there are professional trolls sponsored by megachurches and religious groups. They find a site and set banks of computers on those sites sending volumes of images of aborted fetises and the like. They also cultivate trolls like Eve whose purpose is to totally disrupt a site and render it disfunctional and causing it to lose popularity and die.
That's there aim to end all voices but their own.
Lol. All Eve did was create more activity on the forum. First time I've delved into my ex-Mormon stash in years.
Quote from: "stromboli"Quote from: "mykcob4"The fact is that there are professional trolls sponsored by megachurches and religious groups. They find a site and set banks of computers on those sites sending volumes of images of aborted fetises and the like. They also cultivate trolls like Eve whose purpose is to totally disrupt a site and render it disfunctional and causing it to lose popularity and die.
That's there aim to end all voices but their own.
Lol. All Eve did was create more activity on the forum. First time I've delved into my ex-Mormon stash in years.
That's true the site is quiet right now.
QuoteThe fact is that there are professional trolls sponsored by megachurches and religious groups.
Is that fact backed up by anything? I've never seen or heard something like that before.
Quote from: "Plu"QuoteThe fact is that there are professional trolls sponsored by megachurches and religious groups.
Is that fact backed up by anything? I've never seen or heard something like that before.
I was on a political forum a few years ago when a church in Lynchburg Tenn. Attacked it. It was Jerry Falwell's mega church. A person that left that church took the time to let us know just what was going on. She said that she had worked for many others that do the same thing including Bob Jones University, Liberty University, Pat Robertson and a few others. I didn't download or keep any of the material that she sent us so you'll have to take my word for it,....or not you decide. I'm sure if I spent the time I could dig up something for you. A google search won't find you anything, I've tried that. You have to get the information from the indie of the attacker. Backtracking the original Ip address may get you the results, but then you have to start from being attacked.
I guess you could covertly infiltrate such organizations if you're the Secret Squirrel type.
Basically these religious organizations are violating the Federal Trade Commission law the Can-Spam Act of 2003. And you can use the law as a tool to end their attack as we did way back when.
I think I might be the only one that is going to miss Eve. She was so nice. :( Even if she may or may not have been batshit crazy :shock: :rolleyes:
Sometimes trolling can be EPIC and you get a nice gem like this
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Quote from: "PickelledEggs"I think I might be the only one that is going to miss Eve. She was so nice. :( Even if she may or may not have been batshit crazy :shock: :rolleyes:
We had much fun for 3 weeks. In the end Eve start to becoming a little boring . She don't post anything new.
I think for many people, it's fun.
for fun, for the lulz..
it's how people get on with strangers.
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I would disagree with the premise of the first post. I've trolled a lot before, in different places, I have many acquaintances and a group of friends that is only getting bigger. Not everything is a black or white binary. I also, however, don't feel the need to fill a certain void in my life with more people. It gets to a point where I've had enough socializing and I feel fine about it.
This is the Internet, where anonymity rules, for the most part we only know each other by usernames and avatars. Sometimes people make it so easy to get underneath their skin that you just gotta do it, and sometimes people act so nasty that they deserve getting "trolled" or flamed back in response. The funny thing is, people have different ideas about who is in the right and who is in the wrong, I've flamed and trolled a lot of people that deserved it but I'm sure people also thought I deserved what I got too. Few have the balls to admit that.
I've been banned for numerous forums for "offending" people, but then it's a free world people can say/do as they please. I don't have a bad life, I have a good job/education, etc. but then people read too much into online discussion. Besides, often I give as good as I get, so if people judge me I judge them back or critique them back.
It's dopes who say "treat me human... :-s )" who get me though (well "get" as in amuse). Yes, I must treat you human, when you're some stranger thousands of miles away. if somebody annoys you in the street, do you tell them "treat me human?"
Quote from: "darsenfeld"I've been banned for numerous forums...
What a shocker.
lol.. for citing "controversial" topics, but I don't care, it's just the norm of society.
You deliberately incite by making false or gray statements for sport. That is not what I'd call "the norm of society".
it could be, society is very flippant.
Quote from: "darsenfeld"it could be, society is very flippant.
Yep, as long as there are flippant idiots like you.
then you don't know/get humans very well.
Quote from: "darsenfeld"then you don't know/get humans very well.
[youtube:2w3ihe79]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk[/youtube:2w3ihe79]
Quote from: "darsenfeld"then you don't know/get humans very well.
Contrary to you, I don't pretend to know what humans are, but otoh, I know that
you are not only a fucking moron but also a fucking asshole.
an asshole who acts as all other humans do (,i.e. contradict and act flippantly)...
Quote from: "darsenfeld"an asshole who acts as all other humans do (,i.e. contradict and act flippantly)...
Projecting your own stupidity to every human on the planet is par with the stupidity you have shown so far.
Quote from: "Solitary"Why people troll:
QuoteThey are often cheaters who waste other member's time trying to impress and garner attention with immature nonsense. It is also against community guidelines and that should be enough for most mature contributors to want them out of here.Trolls tend to be unhappy loner losers with few if any true friends they cheat at school, at sports,at most every thing, obviously they lack in self respect so they show little respect for other people here on the atheist forum and in other aspects of life
And yet there are people posting here that say they have, or do this, that admit it, and are proud of showing they are immature losers with no self respect, and think everyone on the internet forums are like them to feel comfy. #-o I guess they are a lot of 12 year olds here now. :roll: :rollin: Solitary
Perhaps you should speak for yourself, dummy. Like I said, not everything fits into your black and white binary of how the world works. If you want to keep posting the same thing over and over again with little emoticons to convince yourself of your own narrative, then enjoy the ridicule and negative responses you receive back.
I am unaware of the issue you people have with that other guy. But when someone tries to be civil about a topic and you respond back like that it really doesn't say anything nice about you.
Oh, and nice copy-pasta of the original content there. Real original, dude. You remind me of a 4 year old that keeps saying something over and over again just because they think they are right.
Quote from: "Solitary"I just quoted what the experts have said about trolls. If the shoe fits, wear it. I'm not a troll in any way, but I know when someone is. Copy and paste is the only way I can show what the experts say. My own opinion you are acting like a twelve tear old still wet behind the ears, and proud of it being a jerk. Try again to impress loser! Solitary
So you need to copy-pasta the opinion of someone that agrees with you to feel better about the situation? Like I said, dumbass, not everything is a black or white binary. Reality does not adhere to the 'yes' or 'no' bubbles you live in. You can disagree with everything I said as much as you like, it still changes nothing.
I'm not trying to impress anybody here, because that would imply that I actually value the opinions of those who don't act like they deserve any respect in the first place. You're so retarded, your parents must have dropped you on the head too much when you were a baby.
Any "expert" that talks the way you quoted is not an expert, they are a
childish amateur. Real experts have professionalism and dignity, something the copy-pasta you did has nothing of.
Quote from: "Solitary"Quote from: "darsenfeld"an asshole who acts as all other humans do (,i.e. contradict and act flippantly)...
If you think all other humans contradict and act flippantly you are even dumber than I thought. But I know you are not, and are trying to impress us with your genius IQ. And even though you are failing miserably to impress with your genius, you persist in demonstrating your immaturity and ignorance thinking you are fooling us. You are impressing us as being the worst troll we have had yet. =D> Eve is still the most impressive, and she wasn't even trying very hard. :P Solitary
Are yes, most human beings are. such is life.
And IQ? Never has been a reliable measure of intelligence.
Quote from: "darsenfeld"Are yes, most human beings are. such is life.
This has to be one of the most incoherent sentences ever typed on this forum. If this was meant as a counter argument, it(as usual with you) failed.
Quote from: "darsenfeld"And IQ? Never has been a reliable measure of intelligence.
And yet your posts seem to be a clear indicator of intelligence.
As a side note I thought you don't believe in intelligence....
Curious isn't it...
Quote from: "josephpalazzo"Quote from: "darsenfeld"an asshole who acts as all other humans do (,i.e. contradict and act flippantly)...
Projecting your own stupidity to every human on the planet is par with the stupidity you have shown so far.
lol.. people don't act that way.. OK.
Quote from: "Moralnihilist"Quote from: "darsenfeld"Are yes, most human beings are. such is life.
This has to be one of the most incoherent sentences ever typed on this forum. If this was meant as a counter argument, it(as usual with you) failed.
Quote from: "darsenfeld"And IQ? Never has been a reliable measure of intelligence.
And yet your posts seem to be a clear indicator of intelligence.
As a side note I thought you don't believe in intelligence....
Curious isn't it...
I don't, but then it's a natural part of humans. and yes, this is a contradiction, but then meh..
Quote from: "darsenfeld"I don't, but then it's a natural part of humans. and yes, this is a contradiction, but then meh..
IF intelligence is part of humanity, and you don't believe in something that YOU know to be part of humanity, stating that you don't believe in it yet acknowledging its existence is the height of stupidity.
Allow me to give you a demonstration:
I have no hair on my head(much like you lack a brain in yours) therefore I don't believe in hair. I know hair is part of humanity, but I don't believe in it.
Now then IF I were to try to peddle that load of crap here, the comments would range from 1. dude did you get kicked in the head again? to 2. LOLWTF maybe even a 3. dude quit drunk posting.
You post your bullshit all over this place, without one ounce of proof not understanding that you have contributed nothing to the conversation nor have you added any profound thought to anything.
So please I beg you, GO AWAY INTERNET TROLL
He's a troll. Stop giving him attention :P
Quote from: "darsenfeld"Quote from: "josephpalazzo"Quote from: "darsenfeld"an asshole who acts as all other humans do (,i.e. contradict and act flippantly)...
Projecting your own stupidity to every human on the planet is par with the stupidity you have shown so far.
lol.. people don't act that way.. OK.
But you do. Why?
A flame-war breaking out in a thread about trolls?
Imagine that. <whistles>
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"A flame-war breaking out in a thread about trolls?
Imagine that. <whistles>
I would take a gander to say that the people replying back to this purported "troll" don't realize that they are getting .....ed in the process. Fill in the dots. They want a fight and then they complain when someone responds back.
But, ya know, they didn't get .....ed, they know themselves, and they are in control of their minds, and they're too smart. All that stuff.
Quote from: "Solitary"He may be right, real people don't act that way, only phony want to be's that are only losers. :roll: Solitary
er... they do, but yeah as a social science student you don't human behaviour..hmm..
yes, it is opinion. all science is.
actually you made me lulz...
People commonly contradict, it's the norm of the modern world/Western culture. We say to be spiritual, yet have liberal social attitudes. er.. whatever dude, get with the programme as you Americans say. I don't get why my behaviour must bother others, i don't know anybody here, and you specifically claim intelligence yet don't have the means to note how humans actually behave lol..
Quote from: ThumpalumpacusA flame-war breaking out in a thread about trolls?
Imagine that. <whistles>
trollception
Quote from: darsenfeldactually you made me lulz...
People commonly contradict, it's the norm of the modern world/Western culture. We say to be spiritual, yet have liberal social attitudes. er.. whatever dude, get with the programme as you Americans say. I don't get why my behaviour must bother others, i don't know anybody here, and you specifically claim intelligence yet don't have the means to note how humans actually behave lol..
That's your problem, your main line of excuses is that everthing is "people commonly do this or that" or "it's part of human nature". Then the stupid comes out, " I don't know why people are bothered by what I say". In case you haven't figured it out, we are not only part of humanity but we are also individuals.
Quote from: josephpalazzo on March 14, 2014, 09:53:32 AM
Quote from: darsenfeldactually you made me lulz...
People commonly contradict, it's the norm of the modern world/Western culture. We say to be spiritual, yet have liberal social attitudes. er.. whatever dude, get with the programme as you Americans say. I don't get why my behaviour must bother others, i don't know anybody here, and you specifically claim intelligence yet don't have the means to note how humans actually behave lol..
That's your problem, your main line of excuses is that everthing is "people commonly do this or that" or "it's part of human nature". Then the stupid comes out, " I don't know why people are bothered by what I say". In case you haven't figured it out, we are not only part of humanity but we are also individuals.
Human nature exists, and part of it is lack of congruence between speech and action. and? this is reality.
Quote from: Solitary on March 13, 2014, 03:13:25 PM
Quote from: darsenfeld on March 11, 2014, 06:28:02 AM
Quote from: SolitaryHe may be right, real people don't act that way, only phony want to be's that are only losers. <!-- s:roll: -->:roll:<!-- s:roll: --> Solitary
er... they do, but yeah as a social science student you don't human behaviour..hmm..
Since you aren't aware that all social science is mere opinion like Christian science, and that is my opinion, you are wrong. Try again loser! Solitary
What is a real person?
Meh, i don't care. people generally contradict, it's fact. i'm not interested in how humans behave though...
And lol.. well how I conduct myself is my business, but then people in modern society contradict all the time.
Some common ones are:
- "I'm only happy with little stuff" but then few live a truly minimalist lifestyle
- "Don't be judgmental" and citing prejudice
Somebody will say "let people be" and I'll say the same to them per my contradictions. I get the real reason though, others are threatened because they believe they hold some right from the universe to contradict or do stuff in general. I don't believe in stuff like that, but then I contradict all the same.