*delete my thread, please*
Thanks.
Seriously dude, just start with yourself. There's no noticable difference between being first or last. Your whining is getting more than annoying.
If you need attention, just ask for it. If you want pity, go fuck yourself.
Quote from: "Plu"Seriously dude, just start with yourself. There's no noticable difference between being first or last. Your whining is getting more than annoying.
If you need attention, just ask for it. If you want pity, go fuck yourself.
Could you point me to a suicide guide?
Quote from: "Plu"Seriously dude, just start with yourself. There's no noticable difference between being first or last. Your whining is getting more than annoying.
If you need attention, just ask for it. If you want pity, go fuck yourself.
Thanx for telling them like it is. Now if I did what you did on this thread, I would be onslaughted by any number of people telling me I was picking on him and didn't get the idea of the thread. Seriously I don't know the difference of what you post and I post when a whiney little bitch rants about their pathetic little life. It's like they need a slap in the face or something but when I do it everyone gets mad about it.
Quote from: "mykcob4"Thanx for telling them like it is. Now if I did what you did on this thread, I would be onslaughted by any number of people telling me I was picking on him and didn't get the idea of the thread. Seriously I don't know the difference of what you post and I post when a whiney little bitch rants about their pathetic little life. It's like they need a slap in the face or something but when I do it everyone gets mad about it.
Because you do it to people who need help, not to people who think all of humanity needs to die. Pretty big difference.
*delete*
Sounds like you're having a rough time, mediumaevum. Do you hae a friend you can talk to in real life?
Stay here and talk about your problems. I for one will not judge you or come down on you. I've been through a lot and will help in any way I can. It may not help, but you will feel better to talk to people that will listen and not judge you. This is what a good psychiatrist would do, and give you meds to help cope with the absurdities in life. I have had PTSD all my life and never new it until I got help for panic attacks that are even worse than feeling despair. By the way, I have deleted many of my post because of flaming ass holes here that never have problems because they lack compassion for those who do, or think because they have gone through what they think is the same thing and didn't complain. Anyway, get professional help if you can. Solitary
Quote from: "Solitary"Stay here and talk about your problems. I for one will not judge you or come down on you. I've been through a lot and will help in any way I can. It may not help, but you will feel better to talk to people that will listen and not judge you. This is what a good psychiatrist would do, and give you meds to help cope with the absurdities in life. I have had PTSD all my life and never new it until I got help for panic attacks that are even worse than feeling despair. By the way, I have deleted many of my post because of flaming ass holes here that never have problems because they lack compassion for those who do, or think because they have gone through what they think is the same thing and didn't complain. Anyway, get professional help if you can. Solitary
Thanks. That was kind words.
However, I deleted my OP, partly because, as you can read, Plu did judge and come down on me, and partly because I felt it inappropriate (some time after I wrote it and others replied to it) to talk about my problems online.
I wanted humanity to get extinct, because I don't feel well.
Quote from: "mediumaevum"Quote from: "Solitary"Stay here and talk about your problems. I for one will not judge you or come down on you. I've been through a lot and will help in any way I can. It may not help, but you will feel better to talk to people that will listen and not judge you. This is what a good psychiatrist would do, and give you meds to help cope with the absurdities in life. I have had PTSD all my life and never new it until I got help for panic attacks that are even worse than feeling despair. By the way, I have deleted many of my post because of flaming ass holes here that never have problems because they lack compassion for those who do, or think because they have gone through what they think is the same thing and didn't complain. Anyway, get professional help if you can. Solitary
Thanks. That was kind words.
However, I deleted my OP, partly because, as you can read, Plu did judge and come down on me, and partly because I felt it inappropriate (some time after I wrote it and others replied to it) to talk about my problems online.
I wanted humanity to get extinct, because I don't feel well.
I found out that having a sense of humor about how ridiculous life is and knowing it will all end anyway can get me through some rough times, as well as the thought of suicide. But why rush it, there is too much to live for if you look for it and keep busy doing something you like even if it's harder when depressed. The more we get our minds off of ourselves the better we feel. Our bodies react to our thinking as if what we imagine is real---good thoughts=good feelings, even if delusional, the strength of religion. Bad thoughts =bad feelings.
It's not easy in the insane world we live it, but it can be done. I have a wild life habitat and botanical garden in my back yard where I go to get alone with nature and relax. Some times it is good to get totally alone and just enjoy the beauty in the world we live in, and realize how precious life really is without TV and News stories that distort reality by exaggeration, out right lies, sensationalism, and a constant bombardment of religious BS. I think most of the people here care about your problems because they have been through it too. Hang in there! And don't let anyone bring you down. You are one of a kind in the universe and this makes you special. :-D Solitary
Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"Quote from: "mykcob4"Thanx for telling them like it is. Now if I did what you did on this thread, I would be onslaughted by any number of people telling me I was picking on him and didn't get the idea of the thread. Seriously I don't know the difference of what you post and I post when a whiney little bitch rants about their pathetic little life. It's like they need a slap in the face or something but when I do it everyone gets mad about it.
Because you do it to people who need help, not to people who think all of humanity needs to die. Pretty big difference.
Hey I offer help first but then they get all defensive because they don't want to wake up and face reality.
Quote from: "mykcob4"Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"Quote from: "mykcob4"Thanx for telling them like it is. Now if I did what you did on this thread, I would be onslaughted by any number of people telling me I was picking on him and didn't get the idea of the thread. Seriously I don't know the difference of what you post and I post when a whiney little bitch rants about their pathetic little life. It's like they need a slap in the face or something but when I do it everyone gets mad about it.
Because you do it to people who need help, not to people who think all of humanity needs to die. Pretty big difference.
Hey I offer help first but then they get all defensive because they don't want to wake up and face reality.
Because you don't understand how to talk to people who need help. You seem to assume they're thinking rationally. They are not. Stop acting like they do. The whole point of helping someone is to
get them to think rationally, not proceed on the assumption that they already are. If they were thinking rationally, do you honestly think they'd need help?
The correct answer is "no."
Yeah, getting professional help is alright provided you are comfortable with it. Some people prefer the anonymity of the Internet, and that's fine. We don't know each other personally on here, and so when you ask for help, and someone replies in a rude and forceful way it's because they can't see you, all they see is text and therefore the factor of face-to-face communication and risking blowback for their words does not exist.
But this place is a way better place to get help then, say, Youtube. If you want to be treated badly just post what you did on Youtube, and then your wish will be granted in due time.
I'm pretty patient.. I hope humanity goes extinct too, but I'm willing to wait several hundred million years give or take 50 million or so..
Medium.. I've struggled with suicidal thoughts and have tried several times in my life. You're definitely not alone.
I want to write more, but phone battery is dying, but hang in there. People here can be real pricks, me included, but we can be just as kind.
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"I'm pretty patient.. I hope humanity goes extinct too, but I'm willing to wait several hundred million years give or take 50 million or so..
Our extinction is a near-certainty. Sooner or later the gene pool in our society is going to be sufficiently different that our descendants are no longer the same species as us. :P
Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"I'm pretty patient.. I hope humanity goes extinct too, but I'm willing to wait several hundred million years give or take 50 million or so..
Our extinction is a near-certainty. Sooner or later the gene pool in our society is going to be sufficiently different that our descendants are no longer the same species as us. :P
Sounds creepy, gelatinous blobs with Intel® inside.. :shock:
mediumaevum, from your perspective, some of the posters to the thread you started are not as sensitive as they should be to the difficulties you are dealing with. I don't agree with some of the negative "sounding" comments that were made, either, probably because my values are somewhat different from those that said them, but I doubt that anything was said in a deliberate attempt to make you feel worse. At worst, they may not care as much about your welfare as you or I might desire, but apathy is far from malice.
Here is a fact. In an open forum there are going to be people posting who have a very wide range of motives for posting. Though this is an atheism forum, there are a great variety of personal motivations that lead people to read and post here. I mostly like to delve into involved philosophical stuff. Some people primarily want to blow off steam about how theists have intruded into their lives. Some people post just to rile other people up. If someone says something that you do not find helpful when you are desiring help then it's okay to just ignore it. It's okay.
Just based on the few posts of yours I've seen, I think that it isn't likely that if you wanted it and could benefit from some kind of counseling, that this forum is the place you will be able to get counseling that is really meaningfully tailored for your needs. If you aren't already doing so and have been thinking about it, I would encourage you see a trained professional counselor.
Of course, you should always feel free to come to the forum and say whatever you have the desire to say as long as the moderators allow it, but if you do so, I think you should keep in mind all those large number of motivations that bring other people to the forum. Don't be too quick to take what seems like negative responses too seriously. This forum is a crowd. There's a little jostling that happens here and there as people wind there way through the crowd, but most people are pretty well behaved and not interested in making things particularly worse for someone else.
Quote from: "entropy"mediumaevum, from your perspective, some of the posters to the thread you started are not as sensitive as they should be to the difficulties you are dealing with. I don't agree with some of the negative "sounding" comments that were made, either, probably because my values are somewhat different from those that said them, but I doubt that anything was said in a deliberate attempt to make you feel worse. At worst, they may not care as much about your welfare as you or I might desire, but apathy is far from malice.
Here is a fact. In an open forum there are going to be people posting who have a very wide range of motives for posting. Though this is an atheism forum, there are a great variety of personal motivations that lead people to read and post here. I mostly like to delve into involved philosophical stuff. Some people primarily want to blow off steam about how theists have intruded into their lives. Some people post just to rile other people up. If someone says something that you do not find helpful when you are desiring help then it's okay to just ignore it. It's okay.
Just based on the few posts of yours I've seen, I think that it isn't likely that if you wanted it and could benefit from some kind of counseling, that this forum is the place you will be able to get counseling that is really meaningfully tailored for your needs. If you aren't already doing so and have been thinking about it, I would encourage you see a trained professional counselor.
Of course, you should always feel free to come to the forum and say whatever you have the desire to say as long as the moderators allow it, but if you do so, I think you should keep in mind all those large number of motivations that bring other people to the forum. Don't be too quick to take what seems like negative responses too seriously. This forum is a crowd. There's a little jostling that happens here and there as people wind there way through the crowd, but most people are pretty well behaved and not interested in making things particularly worse for someone else.
Now that I think about it, considering how people respond without fearing the consequences of what they say (anonymity factor), and this guy's posting history, I think it is recommended he see and talk to a professional. He doesn't seem like a bad guy, just lost. He needs to understand that the negativity he is holding in only hurts him and does nothing to change anything. Someone who is trained to listen will do a better job than people on a forum that, as good as their intentions are, in all honesty they can't do much to help him. The OP reminds me of how I used to be at point, and for that I wish him well in getting help.
To Frosty, Entropy and others:
Thank you for listening/understanding.
I must admit that I do get help. I recieve all the care and support one can possibly get in my situation, from professionals that happens to outnumber my friends.
The reason I am suicidal is because the local municipality wants to cut the help I recieve, by reason of general welfare cuts.
Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"I'm pretty patient.. I hope humanity goes extinct too, but I'm willing to wait several hundred million years give or take 50 million or so..
Our extinction is a near-certainty. Sooner or later the gene pool in our society is going to be sufficiently different that our descendants are no longer the same species as us. :P
Sooner or later? If you met some of the girls I dated when I single, you'd know the day you're describing has already come. :wink:
I'm beginning to wonder here at the Y if humanity has already left us. :-k
I don't wish for the total annihalation of humanity.
It was a stupid thought I had, for too much time.
Then I decided to post it.
I now regret that I did so, because it makes me seem like a psychopath, which I am not.
Don't sweat it medium.. I've felt it before too. I didn't post it, but depression can bring many dark thoughts up to and including murder.. I'll give the benefit of doubt and assume you haven't murdered anyone. :wink:
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"Don't sweat it medium.. I've felt it before too. I didn't post it, but depression can bring many dark thoughts up to and including murder.. I'll give the benefit of doubt and assume you haven't murdered anyone. :wink:
The thing is, I don't suffer from depression. It's something else, I'd rather not talk about. Something that is inappropriate on an Atheist Forum.
Quote from: "mediumaevum"I don't wish for the total annihalation of humanity.
It was a stupid thought I had, for too much time.
Then I decided to post it.
I now regret that I did so, because it makes me seem like a psychopath, which I am not.
In the future, disregard what
Plu posts. Once she linked to an article which was dated. My "sin" was to point out to her how dated it was, and she went all crazy on me. Must be that monthly stuff with "women"...
EDIT: preparing myself for the headstorm... 8-[
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I'm a dude, guy.
Pix or it ain't true.
I already posted a zombie pic :P I know I have long hair but the beard should give it away, right?
Was that your face? I thought it was a cunt?!!?! I guess I was wrong, please accept my apologies, but the rest of my post stands.
@ mediumaevum
Ignore [s:3u46ogr5]her[/s:3u46ogr5] him.
It's probably best if you ignore everyone in this thread and get even more professional help. It's also probably best if you stop posting stupid shit on these forums.
Quote from: "josephpalazzo"Was that your face? I thought it was a cunt?!!?! I guess I was wrong, please accept my apologies, but the rest of my post stands.
There are worse things in life then being mistaken for the thing 50% of humanity desperately desires, so apology accepted :roll:
Quote from: "Plu"I already posted a zombie pic :P I know I have long hair but the beard should give it away, right?
I've seen a few bearded women in my time.
Quote from: "mediumaevum"The reason I am suicidal is because the local municipality wants to cut the help I recieve, by reason of general welfare cuts.
I can understand how life circumstances can lead a person to feel like continuing to go on isn't worth it. I hope your circumstances get better - at least not get worse. Keep leaning on the help while you have it.
Quote from: "mediumaevum"The reason I am suicidal is because the local municipality wants to cut the help I recieve, by reason of general welfare cuts.
Join the club. PTSD is rarely treated by the local state-funded mental health facilities as it is considered an "anxiety disorder" which means you're SOL because they can't shove a bunch of pills down your throat and hope it goes away. This requires actual therapy with a trained professional.
Without knowing the full extent of what you are going through, there isn't much advice I can offer. However, I can tell you that counseling is very beneficial. I was thoroughly impressed with the cognitive behavior therapies, especially with Schema therapy. It helps being able to recognize certain thought process, certain triggers, and take note on how they affect you and why. Emotionally, although I was uncertain at times, I did benefit greatly from sharing how I felt with someone else. From my unique situation, it was even more beneficial that the person I shared all of this with was not part of my social circle of friends and family, and that this person was unbiased, professional, and therefore not afraid to provide an objective assessment of the situation. Until I was able to differentiate the world from the one skewed by my thoughts/emotions, it was necessary to have a safe place to learn the skills I needed.
Hang in there. Bad thoughts pass with time, much like the weather. No sense in ending the trip because of a little stormy weather.
Just remember:
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Quote from: "Aletheia"Quote from: "mediumaevum"The reason I am suicidal is because the local municipality wants to cut the help I recieve, by reason of general welfare cuts.
Join the club. PTSD is rarely treated by the local state-funded mental health facilities as it is considered an "anxiety disorder" which means you're SOL because they can't shove a bunch of pills down your throat and hope it goes away. This requires actual therapy with a trained professional.
Without knowing the full extent of what you are going through, there isn't much advice I can offer. However, I can tell you that counseling is very beneficial. I was thoroughly impressed with the cognitive behavior therapies, especially with Schema therapy. It helps being able to recognize certain thought process, certain triggers, and take note on how they affect you and why. Emotionally, although I was uncertain at times, I did benefit greatly from sharing how I felt with someone else. From my unique situation, it was even more beneficial that the person I shared all of this with was not part of my social circle of friends and family, and that this person was unbiased, professional, and therefore not afraid to provide an objective assessment of the situation. Until I was able to differentiate the world from the one skewed by my thoughts/emotions, it was necessary to have a safe place to learn the skills I needed.
Hang in there. Bad thoughts pass with time, much like the weather. No sense in ending the trip because of a little stormy weather.
Just remember:
[ Image (//http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KwXrYMtkjkw/UQQpFn_tjSI/AAAAAAAAdoA/j0FayDQfDlc/s640/If+you+are+reading+this+you+have+survived+your+entire+life+up+until+this+point.jpg) ]
Neither is it PTSD.
Quote from: "Plu"Seriously dude, just start with yourself.
I've been told not to make remarks like that by the moderators in the past.
Quote from: "Aletheia"Quote from: "mediumaevum"The reason I am suicidal is because the local municipality wants to cut the help I recieve, by reason of general welfare cuts.
Join the club. PTSD is rarely treated by the local state-funded mental health facilities as it is considered an "anxiety disorder" which means you're SOL because they can't shove a bunch of pills down your throat and hope it goes away. This requires actual therapy with a trained professional.
Without knowing the full extent of what you are going through, there isn't much advice I can offer. However, I can tell you that counseling is very beneficial. I was thoroughly impressed with the cognitive behavior therapies, especially with Schema therapy. It helps being able to recognize certain thought process, certain triggers, and take note on how they affect you and why. Emotionally, although I was uncertain at times, I did benefit greatly from sharing how I felt with someone else. From my unique situation, it was even more beneficial that the person I shared all of this with was not part of my social circle of friends and family, and that this person was unbiased, professional, and therefore not afraid to provide an objective assessment of the situation. Until I was able to differentiate the world from the one skewed by my thoughts/emotions, it was necessary to have a safe place to learn the skills I needed.
Hang in there. Bad thoughts pass with time, much like the weather. No sense in ending the trip because of a little stormy weather.
Just remember:
[ Image (//http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KwXrYMtkjkw/UQQpFn_tjSI/AAAAAAAAdoA/j0FayDQfDlc/s640/If+you+are+reading+this+you+have+survived+your+entire+life+up+until+this+point.jpg) ]
I like that pic. But the OP of this thread could be like my brother, where for some reason he cannot, cannot move on from anything at all. He forgets things, I imagine, because the cells which retain his memory deplete or something else like that. My brother will sit in a room for hours and get upset over relatively minor things people did 5, 10, 15, even 20 years ago. OP has explained his situation but I've known people on welfare and when things get hard they are tougher than they are given credit for. OP simply needs to adapt to his situation and improvise. Easy for me to say, yes, but that is what must be done.
Quote from: "mediumaevum"Neither is it PTSD.
Never made the assumption you had it. Was only relating that help for mental illness is in short supply here as well.
As for the rest, I was merely engaging in a bit of empathy.
Quote from: "SilentFutility"Quote from: "Plu"Seriously dude, just start with yourself.
I've been told not to make remarks like that by the moderators in the past.
Yeah, you're right. Bad remark on my part. I was in a really foul mood. Sorry about that mediumaevum.
Quote from: "Plu"I know I have long hair but the beard should give it away, right?
Not where I come from.
Not sure if I want it to extinct but there are things in mankind which I hate and I feel they will stay with it for a long time and I hate it. But I can hope they figure it all out maybe in 1000 years or so. But they will be different species by then.
Don't worry our time will come
I think wishing humanity to go extinct is a little extreme. Sure many people are assholes but some humans are good people. Humans will eventually go extinct anyways.
I have schizoaffective disorder. I know about wanting to die. Do you need the world to end for you to have answers? If so, at least you aren't suicidal. Just think and enjoy shit, man. Life isn't so terrible when you laugh at religion.. even though, i'll admit, sometimes it's more sickening than funny. Just laugh. I don't feel well.. but mormons believe in star trek jesus. See? Doesn't that cheer you up? Say it out loud.. star trek jesus. LOL
Something else I noticed, why aren't there tons of people posting here? atheists must have lives.. how depressing, when they can be sharing their shit on the computer! lol. Hope you're doing better now, OP.