A part of me wants to go back to the mental comforts of religion and believe I'll go to paradise after death, but I'd rather be sad and realistic than happy and deluded.
Personally, I think Hinduism have the right of it and we get reincarnated. But that's really more of a wild guess for me. All I know for sure is that my atoms end up somewhere. Maybe they carry my consciousness. Who knows?
Well, the reality, that which we know for sure, is your atoms DO go about and will be part of something else....so yes, you are in fact reincarnated, just perhaps, not in the way you wish.
Quote from: Primal on April 22, 2023, 04:13:22 PMA part of me wants to go back to the mental comforts of religion and believe I'll go to paradise after death, but I'd rather be sad and realistic than happy and deluded.
Yeah, realism sucks, but at least it's interesting! 🦠🦕🧠
QuotePersonally, I think Hinduism have the right of it and we get reincarnated. But that's really more of a wild guess for me. All I know for sure is that my atoms end up somewhere. Maybe they carry my consciousness. Who knows?
I too "believe" in a
kind of reincarnation - but not the usual kind. I think the universe has to be cyclic, and that each cycle is, on the whole, exactly like every other. In which case I'll exist again exactly as I have this time around.
But of course I'll remember nothing about
this life life I'm living now any more than I remember now any past cycles.
Too bad I can't send a message to my future self! 🖖
I've been dead a few times, most recently during a six day coma after heart surgery. Didn't notice a thing during that time.
As Twain pointed out, I was dead for billions of years before I was born, and it didn't bother me a bit. 👍
don't know; don't care
The only thing I believe "as an atheist" is that none of the gods humans have ever come up with are real.
As for what happens after we die, I'm content to say this: probably nothing, but I don't really know. I'll find out when I get there.
I will climb the slopes of Kolvir and take the Jewel of Judgment from Corwin's tomb and call up a storm on the next GOP convention.
Well...once you're dead....what happens next is pretty much the same thing, only you don't realize it.
Ever notice how neurologists don't debate the so-called "mind-body problem?" Only philosophers who know little to nothing about how the brain works debate it. Neurologists see no problem, because they know that the mind is an emergent property of the brain. There is literally no room for anything else. Naturally, if the brain stops working, the mind goes with it. Maybe one day, our species will grow up and stop sacrificing the one life we do have for the sake of some fantasy.
Quote from: Blackleaf on June 04, 2023, 03:35:10 PMEver notice how neurologists don't debate the so-called "mind-body problem?"
It's not really a problem. They only problem is morons who think that because they can't accept it, it cannot be true like their brain is powerful enough to warp reality.
I don't believe in an afterlife but I admit this possibility.
For me , life after life it's unlikely.
If there as an afterlife. I don't conceive it like live in a spiritual world.
I imagined some of these possibilities :
1.Conscious stocked in atoms go somewhere.
2.Conscious isn't in the brain as we think but the brain is a receptor.
I think the conscious is in the brain and therefore we can eliminate this scenario except if I'm wrong.
3.About 14 billions years ago. Big bang happened. We know one day universe as we know will cease to exist and maybe a new big bang will take place.
In my knowledge. If a new big bang happens the parameters of the previous universe will be erased.
Therefore , it would be a different universe and not one identical to our but maybe it will be similar and we will have a new human life (The same of today with maybe some differences) with atoms reconstructed.
Maybe I'm wrong and we can get an identical universe.
Interesting article : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future
I know exactly what happens, but I have been sworn to secrecy....it's a surprise.
Quote from: aitm on August 01, 2023, 07:34:06 AMI know exactly what happens, but I have been sworn to secrecy....it's a surprise.
Lol !
Quote from: viocjit on August 01, 2023, 07:25:07 AMI don't believe in an afterlife but I admit this possibility.
For me , life after life it's unlikely.
If there as an afterlife. I don't conceive it like live in a spiritual world.
I imagined some of these possibilities :
1.Conscious stocked in atoms go somewhere.
Very unlikely.
My atheism says nothing about whether or not there is an afterlife.
After all, there are Buddhist sects, that do not believe a god exists, but do believe in an afterlife.
The only thing atheism is concerned with, is whether one is convinced at least one god exists, or one is unconvinced at least one god exists.
When I apply skepticism and critical thinking, to the claim that some sort of afterlife exists, I am unconvinced of the claim. As soon as I am presented with verifiable, falsifiable, repeatable evidence that an afterlife exist, I will believe the claim. Until then, I don't concern myself with conjecture.
The time to believe a claim, is when there is evidence to support it, not a second before.
My atheism informs me there is no afterlife. There is no 'spirit', which I guess is supposed to be an invisible something that can exist in life and death. Sounds like an answer to a child's question with the parent not willing to say those simple three words--I don't know. No spirit, no god, no afterlife--when I die my particles will rot away in this universe and mix in with it.
I was dead for three months once, induced coma to ease up on the pain. Didn't miss it, blink on/blink off/blink on and 90 days were gone. Death is going to be like that.
I don't need to use atheism as a reason, or as a proponent of the theory. It seems pretty common sense to me. The idea is incredulous and fine for speculating, but to whole heartedly accept it is pure fantasy. Every living thing would be available for "life after death". Why do we insist only humans get such misery? And frankly, there are no rules to the assumption. Come back as a mouse and be relentlessly terrified? Or yourself but with no me,or of it? What is the grand net to an afterlife?
After death? We rot. *shrug*
I never understood the belief in the afterlife, really. They're so afraid of death that they think they will live forever after they die. What sense does that make?
I certainly didn't have any visions or revelations when I was out for extended periods.
Quote from: Simoon on August 07, 2023, 04:51:48 PMMy atheism says nothing about whether or not there is an afterlife.
After all, there are Buddhist sects, that do not believe a god exists, but do believe in an afterlife.
The only thing atheism is concerned with, is whether one is convinced at least one god exists, or one is unconvinced at least one god exists.
When I apply skepticism and critical thinking, to the claim that some sort of afterlife exists, I am unconvinced of the claim. As soon as I am presented with verifiable, falsifiable, repeatable evidence that an afterlife exist, I will believe the claim. Until then, I don't concern myself with conjecture.
The time to believe a claim, is when there is evidence to support it, not a second before.
Let me add, that my atheism is a result of, critical thinking and skepticism, when correctly applied to the claim that god(s) exist. My atheism is not a worldview.
If anything could be said to be one of my worldviews, it is skepticism.
My atheism is also not a dogmatic position, it is a provisional one. Provided the lack of verifiable, repeatable, falsifiable evidence, and reasoned argument for the existence of a god(s), continues, my atheism will continue.
The same critical thinking and skepticism that leads me to the conclusion that the belief in gods is unwarranted, also leads me to the conclusion that belief in: an afterlife, ghosts, Ginn, Loch Ness monster, bigfoot, etc, etc, are also unwarranted.
No ghosts, no goblins, no gods. 🖖
Quote from: viocjit on August 09, 2023, 03:54:39 PMIt does seem logic it's very unlikely.
English isn't my first language either. :cheers: