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Title: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Shiranu on November 19, 2022, 02:12:55 AM
 I had never really looked into it, and my goodness is it an interesting story of pettiness and gender equality that got people in trouble.

The Gospel of Mary was the Holy Text of a cult of Christians who followed a woman leader's teachings for 100s of years... who practiced social equality and a form of Christianity where... Christ didn't actually matter. It was all about doing good deeds and realizing the material world doesn't exist... essentially, the Buddha's teachings.

As you might guess... gender equality, tolerance, good deeds and the theological implications of Jesus not mattering pissed off a few men who wiped this cult off the face of the Earth. All we have left is 3 heavily damaged fragments of the Gospel, but it is truly interesting stuff.

And why did this division ever start? What is the root story that has plagued Christianity with so much sexism?

Peter and Andrew get super pissed off that a woman could ever have been told knowledge by Jesus that everyone else hadn't - even though the gospels clearly showing Jesus stating that she is the only one who actually "gets" what he is saying. This isn't speculation, either - their condemnation of her as a woman can be found in the gospels as well.

Knowing their own history better than them is a good way to get past their defenses, no? 

So what do their followers do? Well, they listen to Peter and Andrew; women should have no voice! Women are terrible! And so their followers eventually decide to commit mass genocide and erase any existence of their history off the face of the Earth; just a tattered book and some pages are all we have left of a people who practiced tolerance.

As an atheist, I find that a useful tale (in more detailed form, of course) to have; not only is it a fictional story, but it's one that features a petty sexist pair of dudebros and a wise woman... and you chose to simp for the dudebros. To choose to follow a religion that practiced this sort of ethnic-genocide is simply incomprehensible to me. I have no problem with Christians, I just hope they follow the teachings of James and Myriam rather than Peter... because to follow the teachings of Peter is frankly as utterly devoid of morality as can be found and James was quite clear what he thought about that - there was a reason Martin Luther wanted to remove James from the Bible; it teaches people are not saved through faith alone, but through good deed - that believing faith alone could save you was itself an evil way of thinking.


Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on November 27, 2022, 10:47:51 AM
 "It was all about doing good deeds and realizing the material world doesn't exist."

I agree with your first but see the Gnostic Christian view of matter the opposite of what you are thinking. IOW, the material world exists, and it is evolving perfection.

Here is what I base that on.

The Gnostic Christian reality.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said,  "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all.
[And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.

If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.

Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.

[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.

But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.

Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?

Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end."

That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.

Regards
DL

 
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Mike Cl on November 27, 2022, 12:05:09 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on November 27, 2022, 10:47:51 AMThat means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.

Regards
DL

 
Actually, nothing you said is factual or real.  It is simply a fiction made up to make people like you feel better and answer all those annoying unknowns.  Nothing was 'created' by 'gods' or anything else.  Both your god and Jesus are simply fictions; propaganda pieces made up to fleece the people. 
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: GSOgymrat on November 27, 2022, 03:29:44 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on November 27, 2022, 10:47:51 AM"It was all about doing good deeds and realizing the material world doesn't exist."

I agree with your first but see the Gnostic Christian view of matter the opposite of what you are thinking. IOW, the material world exists, and it is evolving perfection.

Here is what I base that on.

The Gnostic Christian reality.
Gnostic Christian Jesus said,  "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all.
[And after they have reigned they will rest.]"

"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.

If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.

Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.

[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.

But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.

Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?

Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end."

That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.

Regards
DL

 

To summarize, the world is evolving perfection and if you believe otherwise you have no insight. Try harder.
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on November 29, 2022, 01:43:13 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on November 27, 2022, 12:05:09 PMActually, nothing you said is factual or real.  It is simply a fiction made up to make people like you feel better and answer all those annoying unknowns.  Nothing was 'created' by 'gods' or anything else.  Both your god and Jesus are simply fictions; propaganda pieces made up to fleece the people. 


Of course they are, stupid.

The God you are talking about is not mine.

You might want to re-read, to correct yourself and your reading comprehension, but I doubt you have the intellect.

Regards
DL

Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on November 29, 2022, 01:49:51 PM
Quote from: GSOgymrat on November 27, 2022, 03:29:44 PMTo summarize, the world is evolving perfection and if you believe otherwise you have no insight. Try harder.

More like out-sight as people are seeing what they are looking at.

Here is where I hope we us English the same way.

I said nothing of us evolving perfectly, as I could not define that. I see it different from saying evolving perfection.

Can you define your term?

Regards
DL

Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Mike Cl on November 29, 2022, 04:15:53 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on November 29, 2022, 01:43:13 PMOf course they are, stupid.

The God you are talking about is not mine.

You might want to re-read, to correct yourself and your reading comprehension, but I doubt you have the intellect.

Regards
DL


Quote from: Greatest I am on November 29, 2022, 01:43:13 PMOf course they are, stupid.

The God you are talking about is not mine.

You might want to re-read, to correct yourself and your reading comprehension, but I doubt you have the intellect.

Regards
DL


Of course I'm stupid, I don't agree with you.  Yet I'm not the one pushing a belief that has not a shred of proof.  If there is only one god, then how could I be referring to a different one--oh, I keep forgetting I'm the stupid one.  So, for you then, there are many gods and yours is simply the best? 
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: GSOgymrat on November 30, 2022, 08:45:15 AM
Quote from: Greatest I am on November 29, 2022, 01:49:51 PMMore like out-sight as people are seeing what they are looking at.

Here is where I hope we us English the same way.

I said nothing of us evolving perfectly, as I could not define that. I see it different from saying evolving perfection.

Can you define your term?

Regards
DL

Quote from: Greatest I am on November 27, 2022, 10:47:51 AMAs you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection.

I referenced your term, not mine, so I'm not going to define it.

I'm not going to have a conversation with you.
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 18, 2023, 12:59:19 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on November 29, 2022, 04:15:53 PMOf course I'm stupid, I don't agree with you.  Yet I'm not the one pushing a belief that has not a shred of proof.  If there is only one god, then how could I be referring to a different one--oh, I keep forgetting I'm the stupid one.  So, for you then, there are many gods and yours is simply the best? 

If not the best, I would switch to the best.

All honest people would follow their conscience.

Regards
DL
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: M on February 18, 2023, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on February 18, 2023, 12:59:19 PMIf not the best, I would switch to the best.
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Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Mike Cl on February 18, 2023, 07:05:30 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on February 18, 2023, 12:59:19 PMIf not the best, I would switch to the best.

All honest people would follow their conscience.

Regards
DL
And that is what I do.
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 19, 2023, 09:40:18 AM
Quote from: ManUfan on February 18, 2023, 03:35:46 PMSounds a bit wishy washy to me. Like a football fan supporting whatever team is topping the league.Unless they have an ulterior motive of course.



Your team is your mind when it comes to morals.

Keep your poor notions and do not replace them with better notions if that is your way.

Regards
DL
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: M on February 19, 2023, 01:27:58 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on November 29, 2022, 01:43:13 PMThe God you are talking about is not mine.


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Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: M on February 19, 2023, 01:34:46 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on February 19, 2023, 09:40:18 AMYour team is your mind when it comes to morals.

Keep your poor notions and do not replace them with better notions if that is your way.

Regards
DL

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Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Blackleaf on February 19, 2023, 05:38:20 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on February 19, 2023, 09:40:18 AMYour team is your mind when it comes to morals.

Keep your poor notions and do not replace them with better notions if that is your way.

Regards
DL

If there are better notions, show how they are better, and they will probably change. Can't do that with a religious person. If the Bible says so, you can't argue with it.
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 20, 2023, 11:53:51 AM
Quote from: ManUfan on February 19, 2023, 01:27:58 PMWhich God is yours?

Like all Gnostic Christians, I know that all of our Gods are man made.

Most put God above themselves but a Gnostic Christian is a perpetual seeker of God, described as the best rules and laws to live by and if a God cannot do better than I, why would I want one higher in esteem than myself?

Here is a thing I put together.

Are you master of yourself, or enslaved to a religion or state?

What or who, if anything/anyone, do you idol worship?

We are all born with a physical and a spiritual sense.
 
Our physical sense is easily confirmed by our own touch, even when in the womb, if sentience allows.

Our spiritual and or supernatural thinking is described as our Prices Alice experiment side, that wonders about the non-physical.
 
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwipzrrRyKT9AhWPjIkEHWf7CI8QtwJ6BAgTEAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaWx_uVDh4Cw&usg=AOvVaw0ezRxkjj-KDWIH3V0vYilr

This is all of us, as babies, --- learning how to judge good and evil.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOLovIa0RT8
You were born as master of your choices and quite attached to that selfish concept. Why selfish and why good?

Your physical was born thinking it was the best of your genetic line. Thinking your thinking is the best, which in spiritual terms; makes you think you are a god.

That is the good news the god religions want to suppress.

As a free thinker, I pick and choose the laws I will follow and whose laws I will ignore or break.

I am my own master. Are you?

If not, why not?

Who said to you that you had lost your ability to judge good from evil and bend the knee to god or king?

Gen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;

Is the bible wrong?

Regard
DL
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 20, 2023, 12:13:12 PM
Quote from: ManUfan on February 19, 2023, 01:34:46 PMFair play can't be improved upon.
Fair play is the benchmark.
Religion skewed the progress of  homo sapiens... We're getting there gradually as religions die off.

Reciprocity is good.

Mercy added is better, as law then recognizes that society hold some blames.

The old eye for an eye just leave 2 blind thinking.

I think that that is a better fair play when justice and law get involved. You?

Regards
DL
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 20, 2023, 12:17:35 PM
Quote from: Blackleaf on February 19, 2023, 05:38:20 PMIf there are better notions, show how they are better, and they will probably change. Can't do that with a religious person. If the Bible says so, you can't argue with it.

When talking about right wingers, no argument.

I like that stats that show that about 90% of the Wests religious are lying about their being believers.

They do not go to church even once a year.

Regards
DL
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Mike Cl on February 20, 2023, 04:26:41 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on February 20, 2023, 11:53:51 AMIs the bible wrong?

Regard
DL

Yeah, most of the time.
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 21, 2023, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 20, 2023, 04:26:41 PMYeah, most of the time.

There was a specific quote, and if you missed it, reading comprehension courses are good.

Regards
DL
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Mike Cl on February 21, 2023, 12:57:57 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on February 21, 2023, 10:27:37 AMThere was a specific quote, and if you missed it, reading comprehension courses are good.

Regards
DL
Yeah--you asked if the bible was wrong.  I answered truthfully--yes.  It is wrong and on so many levels.  Yes, I'd highly recommend you take a reading comprehension course--or two.  And take a critical thinking course, as well.
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: M on February 21, 2023, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on February 20, 2023, 11:53:51 AMLike all Gnostic Christians, I know that all of our Gods are man made.


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QuoteHere is a thing I put together.

Are you master of yourself, or enslaved to a religion or state?

What or who, if anything/anyone, do you idol worship?


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QuoteWe are all born with a physical and a spiritual sense.


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QuoteOur physical sense is easily confirmed by our own touch, even when in the womb, if sentience allows.


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QuoteOur spiritual and or supernatural thinking is described as our Prices Alice experiment side, that wonders about the non-physical.
 

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QuoteThis is all of us, as babies, --- learning how to judge good and evil.


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QuoteYour physical was born thinking it was the best of your genetic line. Thinking your thinking is the best, which in spiritual terms; makes you think you are a god.


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QuoteAs a free thinker, I pick and choose the laws I will follow and whose laws I will ignore or break.


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QuoteI am my own master. Are you?

If not, why not?


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QuoteGen3;22 Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil;


Peter and Jane page three:

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Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 22, 2023, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: ManUfan on February 21, 2023, 03:37:25 PMReally?



Yes.

Check the stats.

I saw nothing else of interest and am surprised you read as much as you did.

Gnosis is all about knowing yourself.

Most are not there yet.

Regards
DL

Regards
DL

Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Mike Cl on February 22, 2023, 06:43:32 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on February 22, 2023, 09:14:43 AMYes.


Gnosis is all about knowing yourself.

Most are not there yet.

Regards
DL


Quite agree.  Knowing yourself takes hard work; an imaginary friend will not help.  Either you do it or it does not get done. Gnosis does not need god--nor even Paul Bunyan or any other fictional hero.
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 23, 2023, 10:11:58 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 22, 2023, 06:43:32 PMQuite agree.  Knowing yourself takes hard work; an imaginary friend will not help.  Either you do it or it does not get done. Gnosis does not need god--nor even Paul Bunyan or any other fictional hero.

You have not paid attention when I have said that there are no supernatural beliefs in Gnostic Christianity.

You might have imaginary friends but I do not.

Please ask instead of imagining what my religious beliefs are.

Regards
DL

Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Mike Cl on February 23, 2023, 02:19:55 PM
Quote from: Greatest I am on February 23, 2023, 10:11:58 AMYou have not paid attention when I have said that there are no supernatural beliefs in Gnostic Christianity.

You might have imaginary friends but I do not.

Please ask instead of imagining what my religious beliefs are.

Regards
DL


Then why call it 'christianity'???
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: M on February 23, 2023, 02:44:57 PM
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Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 25, 2023, 09:25:50 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 23, 2023, 02:19:55 PMThen why call it 'christianity'???

Tradition.

Regards
DL
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Mike Cl on February 25, 2023, 10:25:45 AM
Quote from: Greatest I am on February 25, 2023, 09:25:50 AMTradition.

Regards
DL
So gnosis can only happen if one is a christian? 
Gnosis is another one of those words that have various meanings.  For example:

Gnosis is the common Greek noun for knowledge (γνῶσις, gnōsis, f.).[1][2] The term was used among various Hellenistic religions and philosophies in the Greco-Roman world.[1][3][4][5] It is best known for its implication within Gnosticism,[1] where it signifies a spiritual knowledge or insight into humanity's real nature as divine, leading to the deliverance of the divine spark within humanity from the constraints of earthly existence.[3][4][5][6][7]

Etymology
Gnosis is a feminine Greek noun which means "knowledge" or "awareness."[8] It is often used for personal knowledge compared with intellectual knowledge (εἴδειν eídein), as with the French connaître compared with savoir, the Spanish conocer compared with saber, the Italian conoscere compared with sapere, the German kennen rather than wissen, or the Modern Greek γνωρίζω compared with ξέρω.[9]

A related term is the adjective gnostikos, "cognitive",[10] a reasonably common adjective in Classical Greek.[11] The terms do not appear to indicate any mystic, esoteric or hidden meaning in the works of Plato, but instead expressed a sort of higher intelligence and ability analogous to talent.[12]

When I attended Unity I developed my own idea of what gnosis meant to me.  It is simply gaining a deeper understanding of myself by paying closer attention to why I do certain things or why I think the way I do.  It is self knowledge and has nothing to do with the 'divine spark' (the Jiminy Cricket, or our conscience)   that each of us has; in other words spirituality has nothing to do with it.   
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 25, 2023, 03:04:56 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 25, 2023, 10:25:45 AMSo gnosis can only happen if one is a christian? 
Gnosis is another one of those words that have various meanings.  For example:

Gnosis is the common Greek noun for knowledge (γνῶσις, gnōsis, f.).[1][2] The term was used among various Hellenistic religions and philosophies in the Greco-Roman world.[1][3][4][5] It is best known for its implication within Gnosticism,[1] where it signifies a spiritual knowledge or insight into humanity's real nature as divine, leading to the deliverance of the divine spark within humanity from the constraints of earthly existence.[3][4][5][6][7]

Etymology
Gnosis is a feminine Greek noun which means "knowledge" or "awareness."[8] It is often used for personal knowledge compared with intellectual knowledge (εἴδειν eídein), as with the French connaître compared with savoir, the Spanish conocer compared with saber, the Italian conoscere compared with sapere, the German kennen rather than wissen, or the Modern Greek γνωρίζω compared with ξέρω.[9]

A related term is the adjective gnostikos, "cognitive",[10] a reasonably common adjective in Classical Greek.[11] The terms do not appear to indicate any mystic, esoteric or hidden meaning in the works of Plato, but instead expressed a sort of higher intelligence and ability analogous to talent.[12]

When I attended Unity I developed my own idea of what gnosis meant to me.  It is simply gaining a deeper understanding of myself by paying closer attention to why I do certain things or why I think the way I do.  It is self knowledge and has nothing to do with the 'divine spark' (the Jiminy Cricket, or our conscience)   that each of us has; in other words spirituality has nothing to do with it.   

I have seen many renditions of Gnosis that I mentally rate in acceptance.

Few get full marks, but you are so close.

Congrats.

To your first, A Gnostic can be of any religion. There are Gnostic Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc.

We are basically the irritating left wing heretics in large right religions.

We also push atheists and agnostics to be more militant, given their better ethics stats.

Being better earned us the Greatest inquisition in the old days.

Your last sentence I would argue against.

For me/us to do so, you would have to accept some of my definitions on the divine spark, backed up with Gnostic Christian and Christian quotes.

Briefly, recognizing our dualistic thinking natures and reality, body/soul thinking, we use God as the analogy for our imagined spectral side, and or a mantra to open our inner eye in meditation.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explains those quotes in detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw

95% of us think the same basic way.

Our DNA wants wants us to be the top dog and we thus want to make our God the top dog.

That is we so many adore a genocidal and evil God that even makes demons blush.

Regards
DL
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Mike Cl on February 25, 2023, 05:14:00 PM
Greatest, you keep quoting the bible.  I discount just about everything that comes from that pile of propaganda.  The bible is simply an instrument designed to get money out of my pocket and into the hands of the priesthood. And it is based in fear, not love.
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: M on February 26, 2023, 04:14:16 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 25, 2023, 05:14:00 PMGreatest, you keep quoting the bible.  I discount just about everything that comes from that pile of propaganda.  The bible is simply an instrument designed to get money out of my pocket and into the hands of the priesthood. And it is based in fear, not love.

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Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 26, 2023, 08:54:00 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on February 25, 2023, 05:14:00 PMGreatest, you keep quoting the bible.  I discount just about everything that comes from that pile of propaganda.  The bible is simply an instrument designed to get money out of my pocket and into the hands of the priesthood. And it is based in fear, not love.

Many share your, to me, narrow view. And Gnostic Christians were victims of inquisitions.

I used the bible to help push my apotheosis. That is it's function, when read correctly.

It is a great book to get a moral sense from. You might give it points for that.

All who think of these things, or have Gnosis, and decent morals, will do so.

Reading it the right way is key.

Try with the supernatural out, and see why Christianity took off so wildly in the day.

Regards
DL

Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Greatest I am on February 26, 2023, 09:02:27 PM
Quote from: ManUfan on February 26, 2023, 04:14:16 PMI'd like to know what this person knows and what makes them think that it's slightly impressive.

I would not use such language, --- and if I can opine without quote or argument like you do, show where I indicate such a low degree.

I am way more impressive than you think, dumb anal orifice.

Regards
DL
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: Blackleaf on February 26, 2023, 10:45:00 PM
Quote from: ManUfan on February 26, 2023, 04:14:16 PMYeah but he/she's not a Christian.
You're dealing with someone who knows stuff that we don't.
Quoting the babble doesn't necessarily mean that this person believes it... It could just be that this person hasn't really got much to say so fills in with babble quotes.

Lots of waffle and no substance.

I'd like to know what this person knows and what makes them think that it's slightly impressive.

Sometimes I like to appropriate things from the Bible because I know it irritates Christians. When I describe my deconversion, I sometimes describe it like, "the scales fell from my eyes."
Title: Re: The Gospel of Mary
Post by: M on February 27, 2023, 05:12:26 AM
Quote from: Greatest I am on February 26, 2023, 09:02:27 PMI would not use such language, --- and if I can opine without quote or argument like you do, show where I indicate such a low degree.

I am way more impressive than you think, dumb anal orifice.

Regards
DL

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