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Title: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 01, 2022, 03:15:56 PM
I seemingly often get asked if certain movies were based on true events. Sometime ridiculously so.

This isn't even the weirdest one. But today's entry, what i got asked today:

The martian
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Unbeliever on September 01, 2022, 03:51:13 PM
So don't keep me in suspence - was it?
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 01, 2022, 03:57:35 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 01, 2022, 03:51:13 PMSo don't keep me in suspence - was it?

Lol
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Hydra009 on September 01, 2022, 07:21:19 PM
For me, 300 was a bit difficult to explain to non-comics readers...
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Dark Lightning on September 01, 2022, 10:33:28 PM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on September 01, 2022, 03:15:56 PMI seemingly often get asked if certain movies were based on true events. Sometime ridiculously so.

This isn't even the weirdest one. But today's entry, what i got asked today:

The martian

I have to ask- why do people ask you this? Are you in the movie biz? I'm relatively new here, so maybe I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 02, 2022, 06:54:37 AM
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 01, 2022, 07:21:19 PMFor me, 300 was a bit difficult to explain to non-comics readers...
LOL, have you seen "Meet the Spartans"?
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: GSOgymrat on September 02, 2022, 08:12:29 AM
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on September 01, 2022, 03:15:56 PMI seemingly often get asked if certain movies were based on true events.

"Based on true events" is a very loose term when it comes to entertainment, "Inspired by true events" is even more suspect.

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Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Unbeliever on September 02, 2022, 11:46:27 PM
I just watched a Robin Williams movie on YouTube I'd never heard of, called Man of the Year, in which the main character, played by Robin Williams, runs for president. What a great movie! Have any of y'all seen it? Parts of it put me in mind of Trump's run for that office, but only a little. It's got some other great actors as well, such as Jeff Goldblum, Lewis Black and Christopher Walken.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Mr.Obvious on September 03, 2022, 06:23:25 AM
Never seen it, but it's going on my recommendations list.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 03, 2022, 08:12:51 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 02, 2022, 11:46:27 PMI just watched a Robin Williams movie on YouTube I'd never heard of, called Man of the Year, in which the main character, played by Robin Williams, runs for president. What a great movie! Have any of y'all seen it? Parts of it put me in mind of Trump's run for that office, but only a little. It's got some other great actors as well, such as Jeff Goldblum, Lewis Black and Christopher Walken.
"I once caught a fish this big!"
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 03, 2022, 12:41:20 PM
The Da Vinci Code. It's continued for some time, esp. with the movie.

I used to make them take the oath first, and then pass the secrets, Da Vinci has taught me in detail. We have grown to be quite a crowd. 
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Hydra009 on September 03, 2022, 02:08:07 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 03, 2022, 12:41:20 PMThe Da Vinci Code. It's continued for some time, esp. with the movie.

I used to make them take the oath first, and then pass the secrets, Da Vinci has taught me in detail. We have grown to be quite a crowd. 
The year that came out was a wild year.  People were suddenly VERY interested in Da Vinci, the Vatican, secret societies, etc.

And the book was treated with a sort of credulity I didn't encounter again until the Mayan 2012 craze.

It's just a silly fictional book, people!  It's okay to like fiction.  It's okay to really, really like fiction.  But it's not okay to get fiction confused with reality!
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 03, 2022, 02:43:35 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 03, 2022, 02:08:07 PMThe year that came out was a wild year.  People were suddenly VERY interested in Da Vinci, the Vatican, secret societies, etc. ...

I was a res asst. in the art history department, under the western history of art chair, in the oldest, biggest univ over here back then. Gawd, I hate historical fiction.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Mike Cl on September 03, 2022, 03:55:54 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on September 03, 2022, 02:43:35 PMI was a res asst. in the art history department, under the western history of art chair, in the oldest, biggest univ over here back then. Gawd, I hate historical fiction.
You must hate Turtledove then.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: drunkenshoe on September 04, 2022, 02:11:35 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 03, 2022, 03:55:54 PMYou must hate Turtledove then.

I know the name, but I don't know the material. The problem with historical fiction rises when writers purposefully mess up with certain breaking points for gain, create events, impressions with an agenda. Otherwise, it's OK. My personal taste obviously doesn't matter, but sometimes, it's pretty entertaining and good. Like Bruno Helen did with Rome. Spartacus on the other hand...LOL  Then there is Barbara Cartland. She took it very seriously.

I doubt if any of it could get close to how fucked up and astonishing the history is anyway, lol.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Unbeliever on September 04, 2022, 10:50:50 AM
I think most of the history we learned in school is made up, anyway.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 04, 2022, 11:16:08 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 04, 2022, 10:50:50 AMI think most of the history we learned in school is made up, anyway.
More like selective presentation of facts.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: the_antithesis on September 04, 2022, 12:09:38 PM
(https://ecdn.teacherspayteachers.com/thumbitem/First-Thanksgiving-Pilgrims-and-Native-Americans-3469868-1588283351/large-3469868-1.jpg)

Where are the small pox blankets?
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Mike Cl on September 04, 2022, 12:31:40 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 04, 2022, 10:50:50 AMI think most of the history we learned in school is made up, anyway.
I liked high school history well enough.  But the college classes, especially upper class classes, showed that what is presented in high school, is slanted or cherry picked 'facts' at best.  And yes, much is simply made up. 
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 04, 2022, 12:52:17 PM
Quote from: the_antithesis on September 04, 2022, 12:09:38 PM(https://ecdn.teacherspayteachers.com/thumbitem/First-Thanksgiving-Pilgrims-and-Native-Americans-3469868-1588283351/large-3469868-1.jpg)

Where are the small pox blankets?
That was about a hundred years later.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 04, 2022, 12:57:12 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 04, 2022, 12:31:40 PMI liked high school history well enough.  But the college classes, especially upper class classes, showed that what is presented in high school, is slanted or cherry picked 'facts' at best.  And yes, much is simply made up. 
Randy Roberts shanghaied me when I started Grad School. Bad idea. I had to keep telling him "that's not accurate" and then I'd prove it.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Mike Cl on September 04, 2022, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 04, 2022, 12:57:12 PMRandy Roberts shanghaied me when I started Grad School. Bad idea. I had to keep telling him "that's not accurate" and then I'd prove it.
Not familiar with Randy Roberts.  Bip Roberts was a very good platoon and versatile baseball player--not heard of Randy, tho.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Unbeliever on September 04, 2022, 03:41:22 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 04, 2022, 12:52:17 PMThat was about a hundred years later.

Yeah, that's when they had Poxgiving.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Shiranu on September 04, 2022, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: the_antithesis on September 04, 2022, 12:09:38 PM(https://ecdn.teacherspayteachers.com/thumbitem/First-Thanksgiving-Pilgrims-and-Native-Americans-3469868-1588283351/large-3469868-1.jpg)

Where are the small pox blankets?

I truly don't get how the English and their descendants were ever able to convince themselves that they were the one's who got along in peace with the native communities.

But I'm starting to realize there is a lot of historical mythology that people believe that I cant understand how anyone ever bought it.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Hydra009 on September 04, 2022, 04:14:38 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on September 04, 2022, 04:10:36 PMI truly don't get how the English and their descendants were ever able to convince themselves that they were the one's who got along in peace with the native communities.
The english allied themselves with some of the tribes.  Ulterior motives, of course, in order to fight the other tribes.  And not just fight, but wipe out, which understably horrified their native allies.  Then they inevitably had a problem with their native allies...
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Unbeliever on September 04, 2022, 04:28:15 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on September 04, 2022, 04:10:36 PMI truly don't get how the English and their descendants were ever able to convince themselves that they were the one's who got along in peace with the native communities.

But I'm starting to realize there is a lot of historical mythology that people believe that I cant understand how anyone ever bought it.

I think the vast majority of people never knew the real truth.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 04, 2022, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on September 04, 2022, 04:14:38 PMThe english allied themselves with some of the tribes.  Ulterior motives, of course, in order to fight the other tribes.  And not just fight, but wipe out, which understably horrified their native allies.  Then they inevitably had a problem with their native allies...
That's how Detroit was founded.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Luther Martini on September 04, 2022, 07:43:30 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on September 04, 2022, 04:10:36 PMBut I'm starting to realize there is a lot of historical mythology that people believe that I cant understand how anyone ever bought it.

Because most folks don't want to hear about how many people their ancestors fucked over in order to establish and develop their new world paradise. 
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Shiranu on September 04, 2022, 08:16:07 PM
Quote from: Luther Martini on September 04, 2022, 07:43:30 PMBecause most folks don't want to hear about how many people their ancestors fucked over in order to establish and develop their new world paradise.

Yeah, fair enough - I've got a few Confederates in the closet myself, I know how it feels.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 04, 2022, 08:50:25 PM
"2001: A Space Odyssey"
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Luther Martini on September 04, 2022, 10:00:38 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on September 04, 2022, 08:16:07 PMYeah, fair enough - I've got a few Confederates in the closet myself, I know how it feels.

So do I, as well as 17th century English colonists.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Mike Cl on September 04, 2022, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on September 04, 2022, 08:50:25 PM"2001: A Space Odyssey"
That is one movie that is simply factual all the way through!
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 05, 2022, 09:15:40 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 04, 2022, 10:02:51 PMThat is one movie that is simply factual all the way through!
I'm planning to go through all the books next time I practice for a dirt nap.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: aitm on September 05, 2022, 04:38:13 PM
I understand, though never seen, that there is a movie where "Abraham Lincoln" kills vampires with an axe...in time it will be written into history.
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Unbeliever on September 05, 2022, 05:11:07 PM
Well, it could have happened...

🤔
Title: Re: Movies i get asked if they were based on a true story
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 05, 2022, 06:07:48 PM
Quote from: aitm on September 05, 2022, 04:38:13 PMI understand, though never seen, that there is a movie where "Abraham Lincoln" kills vampires with an axe...in time it will be written into history.
It's rather hysterical at times.