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Title: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Cassia on July 31, 2022, 06:49:33 PM
Anyone standout to you?

President Joe Biden, incumbent President of the United States
Stacey Abrams, former Georgia state senator and 2022 gubernatorial candidate
Eric Adams, mayor of New York City, New York
Michael Bennet, U.S. senator from Colorado
Andy Beshear, governor of Kentucky
Cory Booker, U.S. senator from New Jersey
Sherrod Brown, U.S. Senator from Ohio
Pete Buttigieg, U.S. Secretary of Transportation
Hillary Clinton, 2016 presidential candidate
Roy Cooper, governor of North Carolina
Andrew Cuomo, former governor of New York
Kamala Harris, vice president of the United States
Jay Inslee, governor of Washington
Joe Kennedy, former U.S. representative from Massachusetts
Ro Khanna, U.S. representative from California
Amy Klobuchar, U.S. senator from Minnesota
Mitch Landrieu, former mayor of New Orlean
Michelle Lujan Grisham, governor of New Mexico
Joe Manchin, U.S. senator from West Virginia
Chris Murphy, U.S. senator from Connecticut
Phil Murphy, governor of New Jersey
Gavin Newsom, governor of California
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, U.S. representative from New York
J.B. Pritzker, governor of Illinois
Gina Raimondo, U.S. Secretary of Commerce
Nina Turner, former Ohio state representative and 2021 congressional candidate
Elizabeth Warren, U.S. senator from Massachusetts
Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Mike Cl on July 31, 2022, 11:49:17 PM
With little, to no thought process--Newsome and Warren.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: GSOgymrat on August 01, 2022, 12:42:30 AM
I have no idea. Some on the list, such as Buttigieg and AOC, have little chance of winning a general election. Remember, of all the candidates in the last Democratic primary we got Biden and a significant number of voters thought the only way he won the general election was because it was rigged. According to a January 2022 Axios-Momentive poll, more than 40% of Americans still do not believe that Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 presidential election despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud. If AOC won the general election there would be an well organized insurrection.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Dark Lightning on August 01, 2022, 08:42:08 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on July 31, 2022, 11:49:17 PMWith little, to no thought process--Newsome and Warren.

He's done well for the state of California. I think that Warren would be OK, too.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: GSOgymrat on August 01, 2022, 08:58:32 AM
Seems like Gavin Newsom has a shot.

According to a recent Yahoo News/YouGov survey (https://californiaglobe.com/articles/gov-newsom-polls-higher-than-vp-harris-as-2024-dem-candidate-in-new-poll/), California Governor Gavin Newsom would have a better chance at beating likely Republican candidates than Vice President Kamala Harris in the 2024 presidential election.

The survey, which was conducted in late June, found that President Joe Biden has narrowly more support than former President Donald Trump in such an election, beating him 42% to 40%, with 18% undecided. In a matchup between Biden and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, Biden would have an even larger 41% to 37% lead, although with a larger 22% undecided group.

However, Californian candidates such as Harris and Newsom were found to do almost as well. A Harris/Trump matchup resulted in a 41%-41% tie, with 18% being undecided. Harris/DeSantis was identical to Biden's showing, 41%-37% with 22% undecided. A Newsom/Trump battle fared better for Newsom than Harris, with Newsom having a slight 40%-39% edge, with 21% undecided. A Newsom/DeSantis showdown, heavily touted in recent months thanks to incidents like the sparring over Disney jobs and the July 4th ad, has Newsom up 39% to 36%, albeit with 25% undecided.

Another highly touted early GOP candidate, former Vice President Mike Pence of Indiana, was not paired with any of the three Dems, but would also likely lose to all three, due to poll respondents preferring Trump to Pence in a 61% to 18% split.

Among Democratic voters, Biden is also the early favorite when compared to either of the Californians. 31% would like to see Biden remain in office compared to Harris' 25% with a whopping 39% not being so sure.  And with Newsom, people would want Biden back even more, with Biden coming in at 37%, Newsom at 18%, and those not sure at 40%.

In total, both Biden and Trump seem to be the most strongly favored of the major candidates who have currently expressed interest or are rumored for a run, with results similar to the 2020 election.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Dark Lightning on August 01, 2022, 10:24:10 AM
Now, if the chump could just choke to death on a Big Mac...
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: aitm on August 01, 2022, 12:50:43 PM
What about The Rock?  😁😂
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Hydra009 on August 01, 2022, 03:45:01 PM
Quote from: GSOgymrat on August 01, 2022, 08:58:32 AMIn total, both Biden and Trump seem to be the most strongly favored of the major candidates who have currently expressed interest or are rumored for a run, with results similar to the 2020 election.
Man, that whole attempted murder of American democracy in favor of Russian-style dictatorship sure got forgiven quick.  :/
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Dark Lightning on August 01, 2022, 05:58:50 PM
Quote from: Hydra009 on August 01, 2022, 03:45:01 PMMan, that whole attempted murder of American democracy in favor of Russian-style dictatorship sure got forgiven quick.  :/

That sort of activity is a feature of these people's outlook on life. They vote against their own best interest.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Hydra009 on August 01, 2022, 07:04:43 PM
"They vote against almost everyone's best interest"

FIFY
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Cassia on August 02, 2022, 12:29:49 AM
I do like Mayor Pete's views. He is sharp. I don't understand reconciling being gay and christian, but whatever. Either Warren or Klobuchar would be a welcome change as well. Still need to learn about Newsom. He looks presidential, and well that means a lot in the US of A.
(https://korbel.du.edu/sites/default/files/2024%20ticket%20candidates.jpg)
could do worse?
(https://img.mensxp.com/media/content/2021/Apr/The-Rock-As-POTUS-Nearly-Half-Of-Americans-Want-To-See-Him-Run-For-President-In-2024-1200x900_6070528446595.jpeg)
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: GSOgymrat on August 02, 2022, 07:34:00 AM
Quote from: Cassia on August 02, 2022, 12:29:49 AMI do like Mayor Pete's views. He is sharp. I don't understand reconciling being gay and christian, but whatever.

Most of the criticism I heard about Mayor Pete during the 2020 primaries was from progressives. He was being portrayed as a corporate shill and too conservative. Rebecca Katz, founder of the progressive consulting firm New Deal Strategies, put it bluntly: "There is frustration that Pete is the living and breathing embodiment of white male privilege." He switched from advocating Medicare For All to Medicare For All Who Want It, which was perceived by some to be a compromise and others as a sellout. I recall most conservatives not even bothering to seriously attack him.

Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Cassia on August 02, 2022, 11:34:33 AM
We just need Hitchens' ghost to inhabit Trump's pathetic body!
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on August 03, 2022, 04:08:04 PM
"If nominated I will not run. If elected I will not serve."
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Cassia on August 07, 2022, 07:43:38 AM
What a moron
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Unbeliever on August 07, 2022, 09:21:33 AM
Chump loves anyone who praises him.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on August 13, 2022, 09:20:20 PM
Listing that many people and you STILL manage to leave out Tulsi Gabbard.

Still, there are realistically only two choices.  If Biden does run again, it is Biden.  If he does not, it is Kamala.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Dark Lightning on August 13, 2022, 10:22:28 PM
She's sucking the chump's cock. I would NEVER vote for her.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on August 13, 2022, 11:52:42 PM
Tulsi's only crime was opposing Hillary.  That doesn't mean she supports Trump.

Also, lots of people say "I would never vote for..." who do wind up voting for the candidate of their party.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Dark Lightning on August 14, 2022, 08:32:56 AM
Just go look at some of this- sucks off the chump (https://www.google.com/search?q=tulsi+gabbard&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS973US973&oq=Tulsi+Gabbard&aqs=chrome.0.0i131i355i433i512j46i131i433i512j0i131i433i512l8.559j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on August 14, 2022, 09:05:54 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on August 14, 2022, 08:32:56 AMJust go look at some of this- sucks off the chump (https://www.google.com/search?q=tulsi+gabbard&rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS973US973&oq=Tulsi+Gabbard&aqs=chrome.0.0i131i355i433i512j46i131i433i512j0i131i433i512l8.559j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

She remembers the Democratic Party pre-2016.  That's terrible.  No wonder she's never included in lists of potential Democratic candidates.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Hydra009 on August 24, 2022, 11:57:18 AM
(https://i.redd.it/x7agfdqnqnj91.jpg)

Vote.  Vote like democracy itself is on the line.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Shiranu on August 24, 2022, 01:18:53 PM
Abrams or Buttigieg; I feel the latter is too much "more of the same", however if push came to shove he could be competent in a bad situation.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Hydra009 on August 24, 2022, 02:10:05 PM
Personally, I'm becoming addicted to having a sane adult in office.

I have my misgivings with a lot of Dem candidates, but I can at least sleep knowing that they're not going to call for the murder of people they don't like, try to instigate a coup if they don't win, stack the courts with religious extremists who'll do everything in their power to take away reproductive rights from women and get women killed, or steal nuclear secrets to do god knows what with them, etc.

Imho, we should keep this sane leadership streak going for as long as possible.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 05, 2022, 02:48:22 PM
(https://i.redd.it/q6w3okcpxcl91.jpg)

Yes.

People whose brains are so scrambled (or so authoritarian) that they can never accept that more people voted for the other guy have no place in a democracy because they cannot follow its rules.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Dark Lightning on September 05, 2022, 03:14:25 PM
And then the "alleged" Nazis and fascists immediately started in with death threats.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Shiranu on September 05, 2022, 03:46:36 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on September 05, 2022, 03:14:25 PMAnd then the "alleged" Nazis and fascists immediately started in with death threats.
"Are we evil like they say we are?"
"Nah, now lets go get into some evil!"
"YEAAAAAAAA!"

At this point, it's some Micky Mouse cartoon shit how much of a parody these people are of themselves.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Hydra009 on September 05, 2022, 05:00:24 PM
(https://i.redd.it/pl0n53ug4vk91.jpg)

Look who's scared of fair voting.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Dark Lightning on September 05, 2022, 06:53:13 PM
They've even admitted to that in a court case about gerrymandering.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Unbeliever on September 05, 2022, 08:41:09 PM
The GOP wants to get rid of voting altogether, I suspect.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Luther Martini on September 06, 2022, 08:02:45 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 05, 2022, 08:41:09 PMThe GOP wants to get rid of voting altogether, I suspect.

CPAC has really cozied up to Viktor Orban, inviting him to speak at the CPAC convention in Dallas last month, and embracing his autocratic ideas of implementing his version of nationalist conservatism.

If we do get to vote under the GOP autocratic vision, it will just be for the sake of appearing to be a democratic process. 

Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: ferdmonger on September 09, 2022, 10:11:39 PM
Pretty much. Those MAGA Secretaries of State just get to decide the winner, because the popular vote just can't be trusted.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Unbeliever on September 09, 2022, 10:33:50 PM
I'd vote for Sanders if he would run, which I recently learned he just might do.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Luther Martini on September 10, 2022, 07:21:47 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 09, 2022, 10:33:50 PMI'd vote for Sanders if he would run, which I recently learned he just might do.

Although I don't always agree with him, I like Bernie, and would certainly vote for him if he is the Democratic candidate in a general election, but whether or not I would support him in a primary would depend upon who else is running.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: the_antithesis on September 10, 2022, 11:13:16 AM
Why do I think you guys keep saying Beanie? I know it's wrong but I keep misreading.
Title: Re: Next Dem POTUS candidate: who?
Post by: Luther Martini on September 10, 2022, 02:22:05 PM
Quote from: the_antithesis on September 10, 2022, 11:13:16 AMWhy do I think you guys keep saying Beanie? I know it's wrong but I keep misreading.

Mr. Bean? is he running for office?