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Title: New guy who believes in God
Post by: Eli on April 09, 2022, 07:47:07 PM
Hey guys, what's happening?
You get any believers here or is it just me?
Title: Re: New guy who believes in God
Post by: Mike Cl on April 09, 2022, 07:56:57 PM
Eli, what do you think?  Ooops--sorry, if you are a believer then you don't think, only believe.  So, what do you believe?
Title: Re: New guy who believes in God
Post by: Eli on April 09, 2022, 07:59:33 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on April 09, 2022, 07:56:57 PMEli, what do you think?  Ooops--sorry, if you are a believer then you don't think, only believe.  So, what do you believe?
Hey buddy. I believe that God created the universe and you believe that nobody created the universe or if you're a materialistic atheist all you're allowed to say is "I don't know " based on your position. :)
Title: Re: New guy who believes in God
Post by: Hydra009 on April 09, 2022, 11:16:56 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 09, 2022, 07:59:33 PMHey buddy. I believe that God created the universe and you believe that nobody created the universe or if you're a materialistic atheist all you're allowed to say is "I don't know " based on your position. :)
Interesting phrasing.  "Nobody created the universe" as opposed to "The universe was not created by a being".  The first is essentially an appeal to ridicule with embedded theistic assumptions while the second is more in line with more normal thinking.
Title: Re: New guy who believes in God
Post by: Mike Cl on April 09, 2022, 11:58:55 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 09, 2022, 07:59:33 PMHey buddy. I believe that God created the universe and you believe that nobody created the universe or if you're a materialistic atheist all you're allowed to say is "I don't know " based on your position. :)
Good for you.  I don't 'believe' in anything; I prefer to deal with data and not beliefs or wishful believing.  Don't think a fictional being (yes, god is fictional--as real as Bugs Bunny) can 'create' anything.  Can you supply any empirical data to support your belief in god?  I doubt it, but go ahead and give it a shot.  I am an atheist and beyond that you can give me any label you wish; I do subscribe to thinking and not believing.  What is wrong with saying 'I don't know' when one does not know????   
Title: Re: New guy who believes in God
Post by: aitm on April 10, 2022, 08:24:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 09, 2022, 07:59:33 PMHey buddy. I believe that God created the universe....

And I believe you have no grasp of the ridiculousness of such a statement
Title: Re: New guy who believes in God
Post by: the_antithesis on April 10, 2022, 09:57:20 AM
What's a god?
Title: Re: New guy who believes in God
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on April 10, 2022, 12:26:54 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 09, 2022, 07:59:33 PMHey buddy. I believe that God created the universe and you believe that nobody created the universe or if you're a materialistic atheist all you're allowed to say is "I don't know " based on your position. :)
Present your proof. Be advised that we've seen it all before. We won't follow the script your pastor gave you either, that only works on fools.
Title: Re: New guy who believes in God
Post by: Blackleaf on April 10, 2022, 08:09:46 PM
Hello, Eli. Yes, we get plenty of theists visiting our forums. Most don't stick around for long. As long as you don't create problems and are respectful, I don't have a problem with you. ...I say this knowing the first thing someone said to you was that you don't think.

Theists often treat the words "I don't know" like they're an admission of weakness, but they are the only honest answer to unknowable questions. Pretending to know what you cannot is dishonest, and having an answer is not better than having none, if you have nothing to back up your claim. This seems to be intuitive to most people in most situations. In no other situation is pulling an answer out of nothing ever seen as better than admitting you don't know the answer, yet we're supposed to change the rules when it comes to religion.
Title: Re: New guy who believes in God
Post by: Eclectic on December 17, 2022, 11:15:02 AM
good luck