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At this point very little is known. They don't even have a suspect yet, and don't know if it is foreign or domestic yet. If domestic, it isn't known if the motivation is personal or political. If political, they don't know if it is left or right.
What is known is that this was a very precise attack. It took down emergency services and card payment services in many places around the country. I deduce that whoever did this knew what they were doing.
Sad of course. Who is who, and why did they do it? We may never know, since with secret agents and double agents and agents provocateurs .. it could have been anyone, pretending to be anyone else. Of course, per the election and the inauguration, it is anticipated by many that there will be a new false flag to distract the plebs.
They have a suspect, they've pretty much emptied his apartment. Pictures of the RV parked outside the building, etc. Leaning toward protest suicide bombing.
Nobody will beat that Buddhist monk that set himself on fire back in the day.
A suicide bombing in the United States of America? Right now, of all times.
Has there ever been a suicide bombing the US before? How many bombings happened in the States in the last 20 years?
And?
What do you mean by 'and?' I don't get it.
It's not a shooting, it is a bombing; a suicide bombing no less. In the US. You don't get bombings in the US. Esp. not suicide bombings. In a caricaturised expression, 'it is not allowed'.
Shootings are different, because guns are different. It's very profitable and also beneficial from various points of view. It's deep in the culture, history...etc. It's even needed and practical. Most of your country is uninhabited open space. In short, you kids are allowed to play with your guns all around, daddy doesn't care about it.
Bombings are not any of the above. Nobody is allowed to play with bombs. Bombing is a direct, open attack -doesn't matter where it comes from- on American soil from American military point of view and that is one thing that will be prevented at any costs. That's the foundation of the power of US fed state has on its people. Preventing any kind of direct attack; in this case bombing, is the best thing they can do because 'only' they can do, which they have done for the last 40 years or so. (9/11 is not a bombing.) Which is a power akin to sending drones around the world to eliminate targets. In short, you don't lose that power, don't let anyone breach it, because you can't. Otherwise, it would change everything.
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on December 26, 2020, 01:23:47 PM
... I deduce that whoever did this knew what they were doing. ...
A bit too much, honestly.
While it's not a competition, the US has it's own bombers, but there is no single agenda at work. Even my piddly ass state of Montana was home to the infamous Unibomber, although I think he was an implant from somewhere else.
Yeah... unabomber. There was another piece of shit, what's his face? He bombed a whole building in late 80s? Not sure. Yeah, sure they are bombings, but they belong to another world, no?
It's a sort of competition actually, lol. It's about providing security to your civilians. Do you know any other country in the first 20 that didn't get any bombing in the last 30-40 years, esp. a one poking in everyhwere? I don't know, if there is. I.e. Iceland doesn't count. :pp
But my point was about the very act of violence as 'bombing'. I don't know, I think there is a central logic in there and I find it genius.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 27, 2020, 08:46:31 AM
Yeah... unabomber. There was another piece of shit, what's his face? He bombed a whole building in late 80s? Not sure.
The unabomber mostly sent small bombs to surgically kill specific people. He started bombing in 1978, but was not caught until 1995. In 1995, a different bomber, Timothy McVeigh, bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City, and killed 168 people including children. See below:
(https://www.fbi.gov/image-repository/okbomb.jpeg/@@images/image/high)
(https://www.fbi.gov/image-repository/mcveigh-sketch-and-mugshot.png/@@images/image/high)
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 27, 2020, 08:15:53 AM
What do you mean by 'and?' I don't get it.
I was hoping for a point to your post.
We can hope this is just a loner. But pretty good target for a loner to plan. Could be the start of the whack jobs. Bright spot if they all are suicide.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 27, 2020, 06:53:18 AM
They have a suspect, they've pretty much emptied his apartment. Pictures of the RV parked outside the building, etc. Leaning toward protest suicide bombing.
Nobody will beat that Buddhist monk that set himself on fire back in the day.
Wish every Boomer had done the same ;-)
Quote from: SGOS on December 27, 2020, 08:33:41 AM
While it's not a competition, the US has it's own bombers, but there is no single agenda at work. Even my piddly ass state of Montana was home to the infamous Unibomber, although I think he was an implant from somewhere else.
Frequently the bombers are known to both the FBI and KGB (see Boston Marathon suspects). The FBI frequently "encourages" crime as a tool of entrapment. Sometimes the "entrapees" go to far before they are arrested for conspiracy to commit the crime. Are you people completely oblivious to the history of the last 60 years? Oh, y'all accept the Narrative, like it is a homily from a Catholic priest?
Quote from: aitm on December 27, 2020, 10:12:34 AM
We can hope this is just a loner. But pretty good target for a loner to plan. Could be the start of the whack jobs. Bright spot if they all are suicide.
Copycats? Just check Kinko's (copy place) for suspects ;-))
Quote from: SGOS on December 27, 2020, 09:12:28 AM
The unabomber mostly sent small bombs to surgically kill specific people. He started bombing in 1978, but was not caught until 1995. In 1995, a different bomber, Timothy McVeigh, bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City, and killed 168 people including children. See below:
(https://www.fbi.gov/image-repository/okbomb.jpeg/@@images/image/high)
(https://www.fbi.gov/image-repository/mcveigh-sketch-and-mugshot.png/@@images/image/high)
Yeah... I'm old enough to remember both. I forgot the second one's name or erased it from my mind.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 27, 2020, 09:37:29 AM
I was hoping for a point to your post.
There is a pont in my post. It's bizarre, Zilla. It is. I actually hope it is not really a suicide bombing and there is another explanation.
And I agree with aitm on that these things tend to trigger others.
Quote from: SGOS on December 27, 2020, 09:12:28 AM
In 1995, a different bomber, Timothy McVeigh, bombed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City, and killed 168 people including children.
Ah, McVeigh. He was inspired by this book, wasn't he?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Rg8V4g3ak
Isn't it great that this is a thing in our world?
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 27, 2020, 11:45:12 AM
There is a pont in my post. It's bizarre, Zilla. It is. I actually hope it is not really a suicide bombing and there is another explanation.
And I agree with aitm on that these things tend to trigger others.
Why bizarre. Any number of suicides by explosives are executed each year. This varies only by scale.
Quote from: the_antithesis on December 27, 2020, 12:07:20 PM
Ah, McVeigh. He was inspired by this book, wasn't he?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Rg8V4g3ak
Isn't it great that this is a thing in our world?
And how easily a charismatic leader can use it to win approval and support.
Quote from: the_antithesis on December 27, 2020, 12:07:20 PM
Ah, McVeigh. He was inspired by this book, wasn't he?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Rg8V4g3ak
Isn't it great that this is a thing in our world?
Not as good as Hitler's original ;-) Yes, kill all Conservatives, John Brown is still mouldering in his grave ;-)
The Dems have nothing to worry about, being run by mad charismatic leaders ... they are the most un-charismatic people imaginable ;-)
McVeigh specifically, was radicalized by a charismatic heretic Christian preacher in E Oklahoma, raided (too late) and shut down by the FBI. The Turner diaries radicalized many LARPing Right folk. Like the difference between IRA and Sinn Féin. The IRA carries out the terrorism with over-the-top sociopaths, but they rely on an infrastructure of passive supporters.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 27, 2020, 12:25:22 PM
Why bizarre. Any number of suicides by explosives are executed each year. This varies only by scale.
A few things. Because it happened in the US. And the point of suicide bombing is the religious or the political message, isn't it? A group owning up to it just after it...etc. all that fucked up drill.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 27, 2020, 12:25:22 PM
Why bizarre. Any number of suicides by explosives are executed each year. This varies only by scale.
From what I have found, there have been 6 suicide bombings in the United States; 3 air planes (with 2 of them failing) and 3 involving schools.
Two were in the 2000s, the rest happened before the 1960s.
Suicide bombings are not remotely the normal for America, I really don't see why you are trying to argue this isn't something out of the ordinary.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 27, 2020, 01:46:26 PM
A few things. Because it happened in the US. And the point of suicide bombing is the religious or the political message, isn't it? A group owning up to it just after it...etc. all that fucked up drill.
Yes, the cops will pin the crime on whoever, so claim a scalp. Truth doesn't matter if the suspect is conveniently dead ;-) Yes, Americans are totally different than Zimbabwe ... not.
Quote from: Shiranu on December 27, 2020, 01:54:35 PM
From what I have found, there have been 6 suicide bombings in the United States; 3 air planes (with 2 of them failing) and 3 involving schools.
Two were in the 2000s, the rest happened before the 1960s.
Suicide bombings are not remotely the normal for America, I really don't see why you are trying to argue this isn't something out of the ordinary.
Most crime in the US isn't political, it is commercial on an individual or gang level. The idea that political crime is divorced from commercial crime is delusional. CCP and Tongs/Triads in China are unified since the 1980s. The EU is tied with European Mafia, GB with British Mafia. And the US is run by US Mafia.
It's the 5G goddammit, telling ya man...
I did hear one report that speculated that, because the AT&T building was a likely target, Warner might've been a believer in some 5G conspiracy theory. But that hasn't been confirmed, as far as I know.
It does seem the suspect (who can never be questioned now) worked in tech, so maybe he had a specific grudge against AT&T.
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 28, 2020, 05:58:41 PM
I did hear one report that speculated that, because the AT&T building was a likely target, Warner might've been a believer in some 5G conspiracy theory. But that hasn't been confirmed, as far as I know.
It's the towers people are freaking about.
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 28, 2020, 05:58:41 PM
I did hear one report that speculated that, because the AT&T building was a likely target, Warner might've been a believer in some 5G conspiracy theory. But that hasn't been confirmed, as far as I know.
I heard that too. I also heard on NPR today that a recording of "Downtown" was playing right before the RV blew up. And the neighbors said no one really knew the guy, he was quiet and kept to himself, that no one knew his political or ideological views. Apparently he had no presence on social media (at least that is what they are saying now).
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on December 28, 2020, 07:41:49 PM
It does seem the suspect (who can never be questioned now) worked in tech, so maybe he had a specific grudge against AT&T.
Or another phone company .. "can you hear me now?"
The people who wanted to defund the police want more police, and who don't trust the police, think that this investigation is totally legit. Monkey people.
People here never heard of MK Ultra. This crazy is a perfect candidate ;-)
NASHVILLE â€" A girlfriend of the man who the authorities say set off a bomb in downtown Nashville on Christmas had called police officers to his home last year, claiming that he had been making bombs in the R.V. parked there, according to a police incident report.
Quote from: Baruch on December 29, 2020, 08:33:26 AM
People here never heard of MK Ultra. This crazy is a perfect candidate ;-)
I didn't know. Just googled it. FFS. Batshit crazy attrocities.
But seriously, in this climate, it stands to reason to think he was the 5G kind of batshit crazy. And why the fuck we have so many kind of batshit crazy we can't even choose from!
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 30, 2020, 07:33:01 AM
I didn't know. Just googled it. FFS. Batshit crazy attrocities.
But seriously, in this climate, it stands to reason to think he was the 5G kind of batshit crazy. And why the fuck we have so many kind of batshit crazy we can't even choose from!
Even if he wasn't the bomber, he was suicidal. He had recently been diagnosed with cancer, and had given all his property away to his girlfriend. Typical pre-suicide behavior. I would know, having had two suicide incidents in my family. Had nothing to do with politics, unless it was a CIA/FBI false flag.
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"Nashville Bomber's Girlfriend Warned Cops In 2019 He Was 'Building Bombs In RV'" .. every time, the cops/FBI never follow up leads, wonder why?
So it looks like the bomber had no political goal or motivation. He just wanted to be famous. Ironic, since hardly anyone is talking about it. He'll be completely forgotten in a few months, if it even takes that long.
Quote from: Blackleaf on January 01, 2021, 12:18:28 PM
So it looks like the bomber had no political goal or motivation. He just wanted to be famous. Ironic, since hardly anyone is talking about it. He'll be completely forgotten in a few months, if it even takes that long.
Neither of the actual/attempted suicides in my family were about becoming famous. I doubt he wanted to be famous either, we all assume he did, because most of us would kill innocents for money, power or fame ;-(
Quote from: Baruch on January 01, 2021, 12:21:58 PM
Neither of the actual/attempted suicides in my family were about becoming famous. I doubt he wanted to be famous either, we all assume he did, because most of us would kill innocents for money, power or fame ;-(
He was reportedly telling people around him that he was going to be famous and remembered forever. Cops were also warned a year in advance by the man's girlfriend that he was building bombs in his van. But because he wasn't an Arab, not much was done about it. Curiously enough, the bomber warned people the van was about to explode, and that was why no one was killed, and so few people were injured. I dunno. Seems like if you want to be remembered for a suicide bombing, you'd want to kill as many people as possible, but it's a good thing he didn't.
Shape-shifting reptilian creatures? You know they are out there, Scully. Keeping my eye on Moscow Mitch and them boot-licking xtian evangelicals.
All rumors are true. We all knew the alleged bomber all his life, and he was always open and truthful with us ;-)
Quote from: drunkenshoe on December 27, 2020, 07:28:11 AM
A suicide bombing in the United States of America? Right now, of all times.
Has there ever been a suicide bombing the US before? How many bombings happened in the States in the last 20 years?
2005 University of Oklahoma bombing probably.
As for regular bombing there have been multiple bombing in the past years if you think about. A simple could be a Molotov cocktail.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on January 01, 2021, 04:06:53 PM
2005 University of Oklahoma bombing probably.
As for regular bombing there have been multiple bombing in the past years if you think about. A simple could be a Molotov cocktail.
Guy flew his light plane into the IRS building ... 2010, Austin TX.